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randymoss1881 said:
Im at a loss of words for the disrespect that's happening in here for an elite coach like Carlisle. Easily a top 5 coach and probably # 2 on most peoples board.
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No disrespect intended, He is a good coach. This season he will get a chance to show how elite he and his system are. IMO Dallas made a mistake letting Tyson Chandler go.
 
There are coaches who win because they have a firm grasp of the system they want to run, and they are able to teach it. As long as they have a GM who buys in and gets them players who fit or are adaptable to said philosophy, they are successful. Pop does this on the easiest plane to visualize, because he asks for fundamentals, he teaches the game. However, if he had, say, no GM or multile GM's, who presented him with an ever changing roster of rookies, or guys with what might actually be negative Basketball IQ, he would have a lot more of a challenge. Other coaches try to control the game, implement THEIR system, no matter the personnel, Carlisle falls in this camp, IMO. Can be wildly successful, provided he is given the right pieces AND they buy in, can look foolish when called by players who actually understand the game better than he does. He falls into that tier of coaches that I hope and pray George Karl does not. The ones whose personal ego take over, who have to put their stamp and make it MY team. To win, we need go be OUR team, all of us, together. Vlade gets this, Adelman was such a coach. Boogie gets it... he wants to win
 
dude12 said:
Popovich is an elite coach....calling Carlisle elite puts him on the same level and that just doesn't seem right.
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Silly definition of elite. That's like calling LeBron elite, so Steph Curry, Harden, Davis and Boogie can't be elite either because they aren't on his level. Pop is a legendary coach and in a category all his own.

Carlisle is flat out one of the better coaches of this generation. To say he isn't is having some odd bias against him. Where that puts him on an all-time scale, I have no idea, but very few have had his level of success over the last 15 years.
 
The_Jamal said:
Silly definition of elite. That's like calling LeBron elite, so Steph Curry, Harden, Davis and Boogie can't be elite either because they aren't on his level. Pop is a legendary coach and in a category all his own.

Carlisle is flat out one of the better coaches of this generation. To say he isn't is having some odd bias against him. Where that puts him on an all-time scale, I have no idea, but very few have had his level of success over the last 15 years.
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Haha....your post makes no sense. Others are putting Carlisle in the same grouping as some of the all-time great coaches and I separated Carlisle from that group. I myself never said he's not a good coach. You bringing up the players is rather silly.
 
King Baller said:
Oh and one more thing. In the feud between Rondo and Carlisle someone needed to be the wiser more mature person. I would expect this to be the Coach. Just like I did with Nellie and Webber. Just like I did with Cousins and Westphal. And just like I do with this group of Kings. Are you listening Coach Karl?
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Dallas was going to be a failure, either with or without RR. Rondo has been used as the perfect excuse to escape one's responsibilities both by coaching staff and management.
Say you draft Shaquille and you start complaining because he ain't that good of a shooting guard and you label him a bust... who's to blame?
Didn't the wise guys in Texas know what was Rondo's playing style, pros and cons?
Was their plan to get to the CF just "add Rondo to the roster, let him bounce the ball over the half court, give it to Monta or Dirk and get the hell out"?
How come nobody questioned the poor coaching (Carlisle is a former Celt, but, let's get real here...), the tons of shots Dirk took, mostly totally out of rhythm, not to mention his total lack of presence in defense... Tyson Chandler, the shadow of himself.. or Monta-ball-hog-Ellis?
Sure, RR was the cancer... oh please.
 
bajaden said:
I don't have a top ten, but there are some coaches that leap out at me as being some of the top coaches to grace the NBA. In no particular order, because I don't want to argue over it, these are the guys that I think are very good, or elite if you will.

Popovich
Red Auerbach
Phil Jackaon
Pat Riley
Don Nelson
Rick Adelman
Jerry Sloan
George Karl
Rick Carlisle

I throw Carlisle in there because he's had a lot of change over on a yearly basis, and he still manages to find a way into the playoffs. Some of the coaches I listed haven't won a title, but if winning a title is what automatically makes you a great coach, then I'd have to throw Bill Russell in there, and I'm sorry, I don't think Russell was that good of a head coach. He just had great players in Boston. Whether you liked Don Nelsons style or not, he managed to win, and that's what it's all about.

Edit: Well when I don't look something up, I usually get it wrong, and I was wrong about Russell. He never won a championship as Boston's head coach. Came close, but didn't win. However, Tommy Heinson managed to win five championships back to back to back to back to back. Pretty impressive. So maybe I need to add him to my elite group.
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Russell is one of the most successful and decorated athletes in North American sports history. His awards and achievements include 11 NBA championships as a player with the Boston Celtics in 13 seasons (including two NBA championships as player/head coach), and he is credited with having raised defensive play in the NBA to a new level.

His stint as coach of the Celtics was also of historical significance, as he became the first black head coach in major U.S. professional sports when he succeeded Red Auerbach.

And, by the way... not only Tommy Heinson would deserve to be there, rather than Rick Carlisle, but I can easily think of KC Jones, Chuck Daly and Rudy Tomjanovich.
Popovic before Red Auerbach is pure blasphemy... and not just because of the amount of rings.
"Fastbreak" as we know it, is a pure Auerbach invention/sublimation. The concept of rebound-outlet pass-fill the lanes? Auerbach too. Five black players on the court? Auerbach again. And the list is way longer...
 
gunks said:
Yo! King Baller!

It's only been a few preseason games, so I'm not ready to eat crow just yet, but I'm definitely looking up recipes.

Rondo looking good.
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FAMOUS KENTUCKY CROW
1 lg. feathered crow
4 c. cow manure
1 pt. Old Crow Kentucky Bourbon


Mix one cup Old Crow Kentucky Bourbon with 4 cups cow manure until pastry. Pack the manure around the crow. Bake in preheated oven 2 hours at 375 degrees. Gently crack the manure crust and remove crow. Throw crow away. Serve manure with LARGE shot of Old Crow Kentucky Bourbon.

http://www.cooks.com/recipe/898922w2/famous-kentucky-crow.html
 
PHXSUNSFAN said:
I know he's never been a great FT shooter but he can't putting up this type of garbage


The commentator's reaction says it all.
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Its that type of cheap and shallow analysis which plagues national commentary. Without knowing what they are talking about, they look for something easy to seize upon to sum things up for them. Except that doesn't sum up much of anything. Rondo has been mostly good this preseason. He's been occasionally very good, showing both some of the old defensive spark and the great court vision. The FT shooting is a wart, mostly notable for the possibility it could keep him from running us down the stretch of close games for fear of teams intentionally fouling him. Otherwise its just a SMH haha wart. It hasn't said much of anything about how he's done for the Kings so far.
 
John Galt said:
He just gave a straight answer to a straight question. They will probably argue 3 times per week for the whole season. No biggie.
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Well soon know if it was a serious issue if he starts playing like he did toward the end of his tenure in Dallas.

So far he's exceeded my expectations big time.
 
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