Portland Tribune Adelman Article

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I had to take my fiancee to the doctor this evening (she's ok) and was stuck bored in the office for a few hours. I found an article on Adelman in today's sports section and was able to find it online.

He's back in Portland full time - as is the son that is still in high school. He'd like to get a front office job with the Blazers or maybe coach a local college. Two of his kids are coaching basketball. He says quite a bit about his former job - not surprisingly it doesn't paint the Maloofs (who he hasn't spoken too since Petrie released him) in a very favorable light.

Adelman’s teams had winning records all eight years in Sacramento, but he was fired after the Kings went 44-38 and lost in six games to San Antonio in the first round of the playoffs last spring. He was notified of his dismissal by his longtime colleague, president/basketball operations head Geoff Petrie. Adelman still has not talked to the owners, Joe and Gavin Maloof.
“It was their prerogative to do what they wanted to do,” Adelman says. “I didn’t like the way they did it. I was there eight years. You would think that deserves a phone call.”
Adelman says there was a perception the Maloofs felt they couldn’t talk to him.
“They put that out there,” he says. “Somebody wrote I didn’t allow them at practice. They could have come and talked to me anytime they wanted. Fact is, they were never around until we traded for Ron Artest. Then all the publicity was there, and they started showing up again.
“It was their right to make a change. They were really good to me. They gave me a number of (contract) extensions. But when you talk about loyalty and family and decide to make a change, it would be nice to hear a ‘We appreciate what you’ve done.’ But there was nothing.”
Adelman says financial cutbacks and personnel changes made it more difficult over his final three seasons in Sacramento.
“Everything was different, and the ownership thought you should still win 60 games,” he says. “It wasn’t going to work that fast. We had a nice finish last year and took San Antonio to six games, even without Artest for one of those games due to suspension. There was the perception we should have won the series. But I don’t have any bitterness. It was a good run.”
Full article here:
http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/story.php?story_id=116915863245317400
 
Man it feels weird to see all the guys who were on our best team ever gone. Adelman's in Portland, Vlade's in LA(I think), CWebb's in Detroit, Peja's out with a bad back, etc. I mean it seems like a few of them would still be here, but everyone's gone.

Anyway I wish Rick nothing but the best. Dude got us to the playoffs for 8 years, got us division titles, got us deep in the playoffs. He did all that even though he had to deal with an insane amount of injuries and bad luck in general.
 
Wow. Thanks for posting...

He never heard from the Maloofs? That's more than a little tacky, IMHO. This article reinforces what I've believed for a long time...

Rick Adelman is a class act.

I recommend that everyone read the entire article. And the comments that follow.
 
Man it feels weird to see all the guys who were on our best team ever gone. Adelman's in Portland, Vlade's in LA(I think), CWebb's in Detroit, Peja's out with a bad back, etc. I mean it seems like a few of them would still be here, but everyone's gone.

Anyway I wish Rick nothing but the best. Dude got us to the playoffs for 8 years, got us division titles, got us deep in the playoffs. He did all that even though he had to deal with an insane amount of injuries and bad luck in general.

Actually, Vlade is living in Spain, working as head of basketball operations for Real Madrid.
 
Yes I agree he is a class act. I'd love to bump into him someday here and shake his hand for all the good years he gave us. I can't figure out the whole thing with the Maloofs, I guess at this point there isn't anything to say but they really should have thanked him for his service at least once before he left town.
 
I ran into Adelman a two years ago at the Nike Employee store the day after the Kings played the Blazers. Really nice guy and was nice enough to sign an autograph. Wish him the best.
 
This article helps confirms two things: 1) The Maloofs need to grow up and begin acting with more class, tact, respect, dignity and loyalty, etc. With the whole Peja hearing about the trade on ESPN thing and now this, come on!!!; and 2) The Maloofs are not realistic about this team's chances. For them to have the perception (I can only imagine Rick was referring to them) that we should have beat the Spurs last year is insane. There has to be some level of objectivity in running a sports team, but I just haven't seen it with them. At this point, they probably think that we should be 7 games over .500 now rather than 7 games under. Rick was here 8 years: 8 playoff appearances and 0 public relations problems. Muss is here half a year and already 2 pretty big PR disasters: the DUI and being called a liar in the paper. Thanks Joe & Gavin.
 
We have heard it too many times about owners around the league, there are only very few instances when we see the players or coaches who are being traded or axed getting that call from the owners.

Probably the business angle to the maloofs visit was there after they traded for artest, or they were really excited to be there once they got artest. Why would someone want to be in practice sessions when the team is doing so bad and there was no sign of recovery. They might have even thought that it will put undue pressure on the players that the owners are coming to watch practices
 
We have heard it too many times about owners around the league, there are only very few instances when we see the players or coaches who are being traded or axed getting that call from the owners.
I didn't (and still don't) have a problem with Petrie being the person that let Adelman know he was being let go. That is proper protocol and perhaps was even a necessary courtesy to Petrie who has increasingly had the Maloofs stepping on his toes. That doesn't excuse them for not attempting some type of personal communication with Rick as a token sign of appreciation for all he did in the months that followed. Its just a common courtesy that should come naturally to people who are heavily invested in the hospitality/gaming business.
 
I didn't (and still don't) have a problem with Petrie being the person that let Adelman know he was being let go. That is proper protocol and perhaps was even a necessary courtesy to Petrie who has increasingly had the Maloofs stepping on his toes. That doesn't excuse them for not attempting some type of personal communication with Rick as a token sign of appreciation for all he did in the months that followed. Its just a common courtesy that should come naturally to people who are heavily invested in the hospitality/gaming business.



^^^ WORD!!! Common courtesy in not as common as it used to be. It's a real shame too. :(
 
It's true that most NBA owners stay fairly anonymous -- but with as involved as the Maloofs were all the time both in the public eye and in team decisions, it does seem a little odd that they've never spoken about this.

I'm definitely an Adelman fan. Not only as a coach, but it does sound like he's just a down to earth good guy. I've seen him twice on Southwest flights from Sacramento to Portland. Traveling alone usually, not looking for any special treatment and talking to whoever sat next to him in the seat instead of disappearing into a set of headphones.

Anyways, wish him luck and I'd welcome him back to our organization anytime. Too bad the Maloofs burned that bridge. :)
 
Anyways, wish him luck and I'd welcome him back to our organization anytime. Too bad the Maloofs burned that bridge. :)

There is nothing called burned bridges in this business and it is not really a burned bridge here. Maloofs did not talk to him or praise him the media after he was fired, but they are caught in a situation where they cant do it as well. If they come out and tell that he was great then why replace him, its better to not say that he didnt meet their expectations out in the media.

A common ground could be to say that they are going in a different direction, but if they didnt believe that maybe they didnt want to lie.

Anyways, there are so many coaches who have been fired and hired back again, its just a matter of time for these hard feelings to go away. Phil Jackson came back to the lakers after he was kinda fired and sent out unceremoniously even after he had gotten them 3 rings and a finals appearance in 5 years. He came back just fine.

Nellie is back with the warriors, Larry is back with the sixers though not as a coach.

Things happen in this league and for the right price anyone can be bought
 
There is nothing called burned bridges in this business and it is not really a burned bridge here. Maloofs did not talk to him or praise him the media after he was fired, but they are caught in a situation where they cant do it as well. If they come out and tell that he was great then why replace him, its better to not say that he didnt meet their expectations out in the media.

A common ground could be to say that they are going in a different direction, but if they didnt believe that maybe they didnt want to lie.

Anyways, there are so many coaches who have been fired and hired back again, its just a matter of time for these hard feelings to go away. Phil Jackson came back to the lakers after he was kinda fired and sent out unceremoniously even after he had gotten them 3 rings and a finals appearance in 5 years. He came back just fine.

Nellie is back with the warriors, Larry is back with the sixers though not as a coach.

Things happen in this league and for the right price anyone can be bought

Wrong, wrong, and totally utterly and completely wrong.

And did I mention wrong?

There is NO way Rick Adelman would return to the Kings. He's back home now, and it's not like he needs the money. The fact you would even make a comment like "for the right price anyone can be bought" just shows you really didn't have a clue about the type of person Rick Adelman is.

The Maloofs could have easily said something nice. "We appreciate everything Coach Adelman has done for the team and Maloof Sports. We're glad to have known him and we wish him every success in the future."

See, how hard was that?

And it didn't even have to be public. They could have called him and told him privately that they were going to try and find a different coach to get them over the hump. They could have done a lot of things - they didn't.

And, for the record, I thought Phil Jackson walked away from the Lakers. He wasn't fired.
 
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^ Totaly agree VF....

And I will add just some speculation to this all. The Maloofs were never big fans of RA but he continued to win. Last year was an opening to dismiss and they took it. Well contract up as well.

Rick will be back in the NBA soon, and I hope he gets the ring he so desirves. A great coach...

I don't ever remember an 7 game streak with RA, lets alone a 3-4 gamer would be rare. RA did the best with the players he had and probably did better then he should of last year.

Good Luck to RA and Shame on the Maloofs to this day, not sure i understand them. They have been this way to most of the outgoing players as well.
 
Wrong, wrong, and totally utterly and completely wrong.

And did I mention wrong?

There is NO way Rick Adelman would return to the Kings.

I do not expect that RA will ever return. I certainly would not predict it. However, in defense of VladetoMiller, if RA did return to the Kings it would not be the craziest thing that I have seen in professional sports.
 
Wrong, wrong, and totally utterly and completely wrong.

And did I mention wrong?

There is NO way Rick Adelman would return to the Kings. He's back home now, and it's not like he needs the money. The fact you would even make a comment like "for the right price anyone can be bought" just shows you really didn't have a clue about the type of person Rick Adelman is.

The Maloofs could have easily said something nice. "We appreciate everything Coach Adelman has done for the team and Maloof Sports. We're glad to have known him and we wish him every success in the future."

See, how hard was that?

And it didn't even have to be public. They could have called him and told him privately that they were going to try and find a different coach to get them over the hump. They could have done a lot of things - they didn't.

And, for the record, I thought Phil Jackson walked away from the Lakers. He wasn't fired.

Well when you say wrong you mean, from your perspective right. Also I dont think you have that kind of an access to RA to figure out what he is thinking, you are speculating as much as I am doing here.

I am speculating and I am atleast throwing in a few examples , so you can attempt to throw some fact to prove your point.

So you really know what kind of person RA is, do you know for a fact that he would refuse a 10mil per year deal from the kings next year. As much money as you have another few bucks will make a difference. I think PJ would have made more money than Rick in all these years and they both had similar kind of exits, Phil came back. If you are going to come back saying PJ doesnt have any moral values that would be pure speculation as well since we dont (atleast normal fans ) dont have any access into their personal life.

I am not denying that the Maloofs SHOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY, but my point is that, it doesnt matter when money matters :)
 
Well when you say wrong you mean, from your perspective right. Also I dont think you have that kind of an access to RA to figure out what he is thinking, you are speculating as much as I am doing here.

I am speculating and I am atleast throwing in a few examples , so you can attempt to throw some fact to prove your point.

So you really know what kind of person RA is, do you know for a fact that he would refuse a 10mil per year deal from the kings next year. As much money as you have another few bucks will make a difference. I think PJ would have made more money than Rick in all these years and they both had similar kind of exits, Phil came back. If you are going to come back saying PJ doesnt have any moral values that would be pure speculation as well since we dont (atleast normal fans ) dont have any access into their personal life.

I am not denying that the Maloofs SHOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY, but my point is that, it doesnt matter when money matters :)

I strongly suspect my perspective on this is much better than yours could possibly be. And I feel absolutely no need to defend it..or Rick Adelman.

Have a nice evening.
 
I don't know Rick but I do know that Portland is his home. He had a nice run with the Kings but it was a job. Portland is where he raised a family, had a playing career and began his coaching career long before he came to Sac. He has long ties to the community and is just as likely to coach one of the small colleges in the area as he is to go to the Blazers in some capacity - if he even gets the itch.

Yeah something magical could change and he could come back but he has nothing to prove in Sacramento, in fact he probably could only tarnish his legacy unless he got the right lineup around him again. Not to mention it doesn't really make sense for the Kings either. We can't just go snatch back Webber, Peja, Adelman, Pollard, Turkoglu or whoever and go back to the 2000-2003 era Kings.

As far as insight into personal lives goes, V2M you do understand that Phil is "close" to Lakers ownership in a way that RA could never be. There's no way that doesn't have everything to do with why he is back in LA.
 
The Maloofs have done a lot for this franchise, but I am not as enamored of them as I once was. They don't act very professionally. They seem (emphasis on seem) all too often shallow and immature. Not only that, but they are such obvious celebrity worshipers, it gets to be a bit much. And while they have been attacked too much and often unfairly here in Sac, they need to get over it and take care of business, instead of pouting.

I think it was very tacky to not say something personally to Rick. Even a public thank you and acknowledgement would have been out of place. And I doubt Rick was keeping them at arms' length. RA always struck me as a very easy going guy. Shocked me when he got so mad at the players once, he broke his clipboard over on the sidelines.:D

Adelman is just a quiet, reserved family man (altho with a hilariously funny dry wit). RA just wasn't hip, young, and "out there," with some quasi-celebrity status. All he did was win even when the team was dismantled to lower salary. Geez that sucked.:rolleyes:

And I wish nothing but the best to Rick and his family. He deserves it. I hope he knows just how much we appreciate what he did for our Kings.

THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART COACH ADELMAN. IT WAS GREAT!
 
I think Rick will stay in Portland in some capacity or another.

If ownership changed in Sacramento, he'd probably consider it more seriously, but I bet he'd still turn down an offer from here if he had anything going up there.

Some people do have pride and self-respect. I think Rick is one of those people.
 
Adelman's taking no joy in watching a sad season

Another piece on on Rick. Really miss the guy.

Edit - this is the Mark Kreidler article in the other thread, found here: http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=420382#post420382

Sacbee / Sacramento Kings
First thing first: When he said, "It's their problem, now," on the phone from Portland the other evening, he said it absent malice. There was nothing self-congratulatory in the tone. Venom was never Rick Adelman's thing, anyway.
In fact, Adelman repeatedly sounded notes of empathy as he discussed the latest Kings stretch -- the losing, the cross-talk, players and agents and coaches all in the fray. He said he feels for the staff, for the players he coached. He knows the front office. These are friends.
"And it's not too late. It's really not," Adelman said. "Those last couple of playoff spots in the Western Conference are wide open. If they can win their home games, they could be right back in it. That's what got us back in it last season, the home court. They've just got to find a way to win."
And it's just so Adelman, that last sentence. It was his mantra through eight consecutive years of playoff basketball with the Kings: Find a way to win a game -- any way will do -- then worry about tomorrow, or the "tone" of a season, or whatever. You get right down to it, Adelman was the most practical sort of winner.
That didn't earn him a ninth tour with the Kings, not even after Adelman and his staff helped turn the Ron Artest-Peja Stojakovic trade into one of the great saved seasons of recent memory. A 26-12 finish and that pulsating first-round playoff series against San Antonio weren't enough to repair fractured relationships, and the Maloof family told Adelman -- through intermediary Geoff Petrie -- that it was time to go.
So now Adelman is gone, and the Kings struggle under first-year coach Eric Musselman. The casual fan -- and even some not-so-casual fans -- might be inclined to connect those events. It makes for decent early nostalgia. But not for Adelman.
"I don't feel vindicated," he said. "I just feel like I did a good job. I feel like maybe we did more than the Maloofs realized at the time. The truth is, it was eight hard years, and we were constantly changing pieces those last three years.
"It's not that I don't sometimes say, 'Well, they made their decision. Live with it,' but I know it's never that simplistic. Every season is different, and no one but the coach ever really knows what he's dealing with on a day-to-day basis.
"I have no idea what Eric Musselman is facing. I know most of the players, but only Musselman knows what he's truly facing."
Adelman paused.
"But it's their business, not mine. The Maloofs had the choice to make that change, and they made it."
Then again, Adelman might not need to crow. His record with the Kings speaks for itself (his 395 victories are by far the most in franchise history), and it seems to gain a little luster with each passing week. His market value, which was considered high from the moment the Maloofs cut him loose, may well blast into the stratosphere by the time this NBA season ends and the new group of coaching jobs comes swinging open.
Adelman said he has not considered what he'll do. He knows jobs will be available, and by the time they are, he and his wife, Mary Kay, will be empty-nesters, able to take a spot anywhere on the NBA landscape that looks good to them.
But it wouldn't be the greatest shock to see Adelman remain in Portland. Which is to say, remain home.
When Adelman and the Kings parted ways, Portland was almost the automatic destination. The Adelman family had essentially grown up there, through his playing and coaching days with the Trail Blazers. Most of the children and grandchildren still live in the area.
Still, it was a difficult call. The youngest of the Adelmans' six children, Patrick, had just finished his junior year at Granite Bay High School and was looking forward to considerable playing time on the basketball team as a senior. Instead, he's getting limited minutes on a powerhouse Lake Oswego High team in the Portland area that features UCLA-bound star Kevin Love.
"It's been tough for him, but he's a solid person, and he has handled it really well," Adelman said. "And we've got all the other kids right here in the area. We just felt like, for the family as a whole, moving to Portland last summer was the thing to do."
From Portland he sees the Kings struggling but offers no prescription. He's not a big armchair-quarterback guy. Instead, Adelman talks about people such as Pete Youngman, the trainer, and Robert Pimentel, the equipment manager, and various members of the staff and front office -- the people who labor mostly anonymously in an effort to create a winning atmosphere.
He speaks occasionally with Petrie, the Kings basketball president and his longtime friend, but usually briefly and almost never about the day-to-day Kings. Jerry Reynolds, whom Adelman calls "in many ways the real face of that organization," checks in regularly.
Joe and Gavin Maloof?
"I've never heard from them since before the Ron Artest trade," Adelman said.
It is perhaps the one facet of the deal that still bothers the former Kings coach. Adelman said he was disappointed not to receive a call from the Maloofs when the professional relationship ended (Joe Maloof has acknowledged that he didn't call), and the coach was livid about a subsequent suggestion in a newspaper column that the Maloofs were unwelcome at his practices.
"That was an outright lie," he said of the notion. "It's their team. They could look out from their offices right onto the practice floor. They could talk to me anytime they wanted.
"It just blows me away. If I was that imposing, I should have gone in and demanded a five-year contract. I mean, don't justify it (the move). Just say you want to make a change. I can live with that."
When asked if he regrets anything from his Kings tenure, Adelman said that, in hindsight, he wishes he had "pushed more" to talk to the Maloofs about what was going on. Then again, the coach says, "They were dealing with things on a different plateau.
"With the Ron Artest trade, they were handling the massive media stuff that accompanied that. The staff and I were trying to figure out how to make it work on the court."
It did work, at least temporarily. Under Adelman, the oft-controversial Artest was a major contributor down the stretch last season, and in the playoffs it was another occasional character suspect, Bonzi Wells, who came up huge.
Adelman considers those developments representative of his approach to coaching NBA players, which is, he said, "to put them in a system that is best suited to them, and let them have a little fun out there playing."
It was an approach that delivered career performances from the disparate likes of Chris Webber, Doug Christie, Bobby Jackson, Mike Bibby and others.
It's an approach that might well be pulled back into action. Adelman keeps tabs on the league's doings, so as not to be out of touch. But as for specific thoughts about future coaching jobs, "I'm just letting it go.
"I would love to find something here in Portland," Adelman said. "I would love to be part of the Blazers' organization -- not as a coach -- because I think they're really doing some good things.
"But I don't want to get into a thing about it. I am not looking right now."
Instead, Adelman observes,watching NBA games when he can, in between seeing his own family's basketball action. He gets league-wide updates daily on his computer.
When he sees Musselman's team fail to hold leads and give away fourth quarters, it is, he says, without joy.
"There are so many players on that team that I really like. I don't want to see them not win," he said. "It's a great town, with such a great fan base. You'd like to see it all work out with the arena and the team."
And on the other hand, "It's not mine to say anymore," Adelman said.
 
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Thanks for posting the articles. It was good read.

I really miss Adelman! But I'm happy to hear he's doing well. :)
 
And, for the record, I thought Phil Jackson walked away from the Lakers. He wasn't fired.

Same thing here as well VF21. Both Rick and Phil were not signed by their teams after their contract expired. When the coach doesnt openly say that he is retiring or moving to another team, when he doesnt have a job after that year, when the team hires a new coach, its kinda fired but technically not.
 
Same thing here as well VF21. Both Rick and Phil were not signed by their teams after their contract expired. When the coach doesnt openly say that he is retiring or moving to another team, when he doesnt have a job after that year, when the team hires a new coach, its kinda fired but technically not.
Phil left because he was done with the team. Rick by all accounts wanted to stay. The Lakers by all accounts would have loved Phil to stay. There's definitely a difference. Rick may have technically not had his contract renewed but by just about any other measure he was fired. There are other "normal" jobs that are contract jobs - construction workers come to mind. The only reasons your contract isn't picked up is because there is either no work or you're fired.
 
Phil left because he was done with the team. Rick by all accounts wanted to stay. The Lakers by all accounts would have loved Phil to stay. There's definitely a difference. Rick may have technically not had his contract renewed but by just about any other measure he was fired. quote]

Nope, Lakers didnt want Phil to stay either. Remember the whole saga about Kobe chasing Shaq and Phil out of town.

There was also talks about Kobe wanting coach K to come to the lakers
 
Nope, Lakers didnt want Phil to stay either. Remember the whole saga about Kobe chasing Shaq and Phil out of town.

There was also talks about Kobe wanting coach K to come to the lakers
That was all Kobe. I know sometimes its hard to distinguish the difference between "The Lakers" and "Kobe Bryant" but there is one. Phil basically threw his hands up in the air and left town.

Its something he had obviously been planning for a while as he immediately released a book about the Kobe Bryant experience and a humbled Kobe stuck on a losing team for the first time in his career immediately made amends and Phil was brought back in.
 
That was all Kobe. I know sometimes its hard to distinguish the difference between "The Lakers" and "Kobe Bryant" but there is one. Phil basically threw his hands up in the air and left town.

Its something he had obviously been planning for a while as he immediately released a book about the Kobe Bryant experience and a humbled Kobe stuck on a losing team for the first time in his career immediately made amends and Phil was brought back in.

All Kobe? That wasn't the first time Coach K was sought after by the Lakers. It was the first time he actually considered it though. Plenty of NBA teams have tried getting him to leave Duke but he won't.

As for Kobe making amends, you have that one backwards. Phil was the one that had to earn back that trust.
 
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