Pac-10 expands, adds Colorado
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So the Big 10 will have 12 teams and the Big 12 will have 10? Can we get a name swap here?
And does the Pac-10 just add Utah now and call it a day?
And does the Pac-10 just add Utah now and call it a day?
Yet another reason for me to hate Texas.
Hate A&M. They're really the ones that blew the deal up.
Also, I heard that ABC/ESPN offered this TV deal to forestall realignment and keep Fox Sports from getting a Super Pac deal with Texas and Oklahoma. A lot at play, but ultimately, the Pac-10 couldn't close. No coffee.
I am pretty sure Fox Sports is done when the deal expires. More than anything that awful contract is why the Pac is so lowly regarded.
A&M was doing whatever Texas wanted. They did seem to be the most reluctant to go though, but they still don't have the stroke on their own. Oh well. Would be nice if the Pac can grab Utah then.
A&M was doing whatever Texas wanted. They did seem to be the most reluctant to go though, but they still don't have the stroke on their own. Oh well. Would be nice if the Pac can grab Utah then.
I certainly hope so. But I hope someone other than ABC steps up with a new deal, even if Fox Sports makes improvements to their broadcasts and scheduling. If ABC gets the deal, realignment will never happen.
The way I understood it is that A&M didn't want to be seen as just following Texas along. They even flirted with the SEC at one point, with everyone knowing that Texas didn't want to go there (low academic standards, tougher schedule). The SEC wins either way, as long as the Super Pac doesn't happen.
I hope the Pac-10 signs Utah, and it would be nice to add a couple more teams also. But Utah would be a huge addition at this point. BYU would be cool, but that's not gonna happen. Also missed out on Boise State.
Boise State is nice for football but little else. I think the Pac needs to also reestablish itself in hoops which is one of the reasons the Big-12 deal was so nice (also because it would have left Kansas out in the wind haha). Oh well on to plan B.
Why is BYU not a consideration? I have heard that said before for some historical reason, but I'm not sure what I'm missing?
Why is BYU not a consideration? I have heard that said before for some historical reason, but I'm not sure what I'm missing?
The fact that no one wanted Kansas (Pac-10, Big 10) tells me that college basketball is sort of an after thought. Football is what drives all these negotiations and what pays the bills. For that reason, I think Boise State would be a bigger acquisition than Kansas, even though it's strictly football.
They won't play Sunday games, so the schedule-making would be difficult. But that would be the natural partner for Utah. Add Colorado State, and you've got a 14 team conference with 7 natural rivalries and travel partnerships. Not as good as the Super Pac, but still enough to negotiate a better TV deal and eventually throw in a conference championship.
Sunday games would really only affect basketball and some secondary sports where TV isn't a consideration.
When BYU makes the basketball tournament do they really schedule around them?
When BYU makes the basketball tournament do they really schedule around them?
I don't know, but that's what I heard was the major obstacle to BYU going anywhere.
http://www.mwcconnection.com/2010/2/24/1314651/byu-and-their-sunday-game-situation
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I don't think it will be an issue if a major ever comes knocking on their door. Their religion has proven to be very adaptable when it suits them and they already allow travel on Sundays so its not quite the same as an Orthodox Jew breaking the Sabbath.
According to the article you posted baseball is the only sport that would really be impacted. So maybe they just do doubleheaders on Saturdays for all BYU games if needed. I doubt parents, boosters and alums have problems if the church elders give the ok. All the Mormons I know live pretty normal lives on Sundays. On that article you linked to there were comments from a couple BYU fans stating that they thought the Sunday thing was a whole lot of nothing and the big conferences were shutting them out so they apparently seemed uninformed that BYU was shutting itself out.
Agreed, not interested in BYU without Utah. I like having the X and X State. Of course the California screws botch that all up, but they're all sound historic rivalries. Those 4 would give the Mountain time zone significant representation and allow some earlier games on the schedules which should help East Coast recruiting and national programming.
Of course I just meant the names all lined up nicely. I am easily amused by patterns.
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Now, how to split the divisions? Ted Miller's article for ESPN makes it sound like North/South makes the most sense, but as a Stanford fan I'm not sure I like how that sorts out, splitting up the California teams. Plus, aren't Utah and Colorado actually further north than Stanford and Cal? I think so.
I think I like a "sun" (Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC) and "snow" (Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Colorado, Utah) divisional split up best, but no one seems to have mentioned that yet.
I think I like a "sun" (Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC) and "snow" (Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, Colorado, Utah) divisional split up best, but no one seems to have mentioned that yet.
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Maybe sun and rain. Just because Utah and Colorado join the PacNW teams doesn't mean they get to dictate the general weather trends 
In all seriousness that makes the most sense but I would hope that wouldn't cost me my Arizona coverage up here.
Do the other 12 team conferences use divisions for non-football sports? Because that would make some balanced football divisions (though it would split the powers and new schools up perhaps too evenly) but it would really misalign things in basketball.
In all seriousness that makes the most sense but I would hope that wouldn't cost me my Arizona coverage up here.
Do the other 12 team conferences use divisions for non-football sports? Because that would make some balanced football divisions (though it would split the powers and new schools up perhaps too evenly) but it would really misalign things in basketball.
