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BigWaxer said:
If you guys get an O-line and Bush it will be interesting to see how Smith does back there.
as much as i want bush! i dont think we will draft him.... barlow and gore are good backs..... on any given day barlow and gore are capable of rushing for 100+ but i still rather have a stud like bush.... bush and gore in the backfield! LOL
 
Wow, I wasn't expecting that one! What's the deal with the draft picks? I guess they figure this season is hopeless so maybe they can get better players for next year. I sure hope so.
 
i say you guys blow the season and take matt leinhart because alex smith isn't very good. i don't think the niners would draft bush because they just drafted frank gore, so unless they trade barlow, you won't see any bush in sf. should draft a left tackle. and another thought, that would be hella funny if rattay went crazy on the buccs and did really well. i doubt it will happen, but it would be funny.
 
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The most electrifying and outstanding player college football has seen since maybe vick, and some of u think we wouldn't draft him because we have BARLOW and GORE? Give me a break.
 

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49ers trade QB Tim Rattay
By Matt Barrows -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:32 pm PDT Tuesday, October 18, 2005

The 49ers traded one-time starting quarterback Tim Rattay to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for an undisclosed 2006 draft choice, a team spokesman said Tuesday.
The Buccaneers, who had expressed interest in Rattay as far back as the spring, lost their own starter, Brian Griese, for the season after he tore ligaments in his left knee during Sunday's victory over the Miami Dolphins. The Buccaneers contacted the 49ers Tuesday morning -- mere hours before the league's trade deadline.

Rattay started the 49ers' first four games this season before being replaced by No. 1 overall draft pick Alex Smith Oct. 9 against the Colts. Rattay was a longtime backup to Jeff Garcia before getting a chance to start last year.

He spent the 2004 season fighting off injuries and spent this season fighting off Smith, who is guaranteed to make $24 million. Though respected by the organization, Rattay did not fit into the 49ers' longterm plans. The team is committed to making Smith the permanent starter, and coach Mike Nolan also has been enamored of second-year player Cody Pickett, who appears earmarked as Smith's longterm backup.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/13733095p-14575126c.html

I do not think this bodes well for the rest of the season. Our o-line sucks and now we pretty much have to throw Smith to the wolves.
 
i was so not expecting that so rattay goes to the buccs pretty much becoming a 3rd stringer, that is odd. although i realyl like pickett so that is cool that he is pretty much becoming the back up qb. Can anyone tell me what happened to dorsey? did he pretty much fall off the map for this team?
 
If bush went to the niners i would be really happy because that would mean he stays in california and i would get to watch him all the time on tv. I can't really imagine any team needing a running back at this time though maybe um... it is very hard to think of a team that hasn't drafted a rb high in the past couple of years so i wouldn't doubt the niners taking bush with the 2nd or 3rd pick because houston has the first pick locked down with there hard schedule, and the only productive player on their roster is domanick davis.
 
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BibityBobtyBoom said:
If bush went to the niners i would be really happy because that would mean he stays in california and i would get to watch him all the time on tv. I can't really imagine any team needing a running back at this time though maybe um... it is very hard to think of a team that hasn't drafted a rb high in the past couple of years so i wouldn't doubt the niners taking bush with the 2nd or 3rd pick because houston has the first pick locked down with there hard schedule, and the only productive player on their roster is domanick davis.
yeah houston scares me. theyll take bush for sure. we gotta beat them out for the worst record;) :(
 
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With a 4pm EST NFL trade deadline, the San Francisco 49ers completed a trade with Tampa Bay sending quarterback Tim Rattay to the Buccaneers for an undisclosed 2006 draft pick.

The 49ers and the Chicago Bears were the only two teams that carried four quarterbacks into the start of the regular season, making the Niners an obvious candidate for the Bucs to contact when their starter Brian Griese was lost for the season on Sunday with a knee injury.

“Every year at this time it seems that the quarterback position is what people come looking for, and it just so happened that we had four quality quarterbacks on our active roster,” said head coach Mike Nolan.

Rattay played six seasons (2000-05) for San Francisco with 16 starts in 32 career games. He completed 356-of-586 passes for 3,941 yards and 24 touchdowns. The Louisiana Tech product has a 60.8% career completion percentage.

He started the first four contests of 2005 completing 56-of-97 passes for 667 yards, five touchdowns and six interceptions. Following the loss to the Arizona Cardinals, Nolan demoted Rattay and went with first-round draft choice Alex Smith.

With Smith entrenched as the team’s starter and solid backups in Ken Dorsey and Cody Pickett, Nolan felt the swap with Tampa was favorable.

“Ken Dorsey and Cody Pickett are very capable young players who have worked extremely hard in the role of backup quarterback,” said Nolan. “I believe they’ll do a quality job for us, and given our injury situation in other areas, it opens up a roster spot for us and will allow us some flexibility in filling other positions.”

Dorsey, who played in eight games with seven starts in 2004, now moves into the backup role behind Smith.

”It is just one of those crazy things in this business where you never really know what is going to happen from day to day,” said Dorsey of his promotion. “You just have to work hard and continue to improve as an individual because you never know when your role is going to change.

Nolan said that Dorsey will now take all of the reps for the offensive scout team against the #1 defense. Although Dorsey has seen limited reps so far this season, he’s the last player to leave the field after every practice. Even after the receivers have gone in, Dorsey stays out on the field throwing into a net or working on foot work.

“You try to prepare the same no matter what your role is and I think that’s the way most guys are, especially in this organization,” said Dorsey. “I think those are the type of people this organization has tried to bring in, and we all know that we have to work and be ready and prepare as if we expect to play.”

Preparation will be slightly different for Smith, who counted on Rattay’s veteran guidance both in the film room and the field.


“He was the oldest guy in the room, and guy with the most experience,” said Smith. “He’d been around the longest out of all four quarterbacks and he was a guy whenever I had questions, I would go to him. So, it will be weird for me, but I’m excited for him. He’s going to a good situation and I think he’ll make things happen there.”

The 49ers will face their former offensive leader in two weeks when the 49ers host the Bucs at Monster Park.

“It’ll be extremely, extremely different,” admitted Smith. “It’ll be different to see him across the field because in my short time in the league, he’s been the guy I look up to the most.”

“Everybody really enjoyed Tim here and respected him tremendously here as a player and a person,” added Dorsey. “It’ll be different to see him across the sidelines from us, but that won’t be our focus. We need to focus on winning games and getting the season headed in the right direction.”

Nolan also announced that linebacker Saleem Rasheed, who moved into the starting lineup when Jamie Winborn went on injured reserve with a torn biceps last week, underwent arthroscopic surgery on his knee and is expected to be out 2-5 weeks. Rasheed suffered the injury early in practice on Monday.
 
Good luck Timmy, have fun on a winning team. My only question is with the draft pick. Any ideas on whether this is a 1st or 2nd rounder? Not sure what "undisclosed" means in the NFL. We do need depth (just not at QB) so all the draft picks we get will be very helpful. Still would have been nice to see what Rattay could have done with a good O-line, he seems like such a class act.
 
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Rockin' in the Free World said:
Good luck Timmy, have fun on a winning team. My only question is with the draft pick. Any ideas on whether this is a 1st or 2nd rounder? Not sure what "undisclosed" means in the NFL. We do need depth (just not at QB) so all the draft picks we get will be very helpful. Still would have been nice to see what Rattay could have done with a good O-line, he seems like such a class act.
i doubt it.... its prolly like a 6th round pick.......
 

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Mixed blessings.

Bad news - I'm a 49er fan and this is painful, although I pretty much predicted this would happen if Smith was put into the starting slot... :(

Good news - I have Mark Brunell starting for me in one of my fantasy leagues.
 
I've officially entered the "acceptance" phase as the fan of a losing team. Watching them get blown out didn't illicit any sort of emotion from me today.

I know why the Niner's offense is the 2nd worse in the league, I just can't quite figure out how our defense is last in the league. We've had worse defenses (talent wise, anyway) than the one on the field right now.
 

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If anything, watching them get blown out only reinforced my heartfelt belief that Alex Smith simply is NOT ready to be a starting NFL quarterback. And I don't care what Peyton Manning or anyone else says -

Does the name Ryan Leaf ring any bells?
 
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im glad i didnt get to watch todays game.... i had to work all freakin day! :(


could someone give me the positives of the game?

how did gore and barlow do? how did smith do? how was the offense? did the score reflect how we played? etc etc....
 
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I Missed The Game Too Fillmoe. Gores Numbers Were Like An Avg Of About 10 Yds Per Carry. I Dont Know If They Were Garbage Minute Points Though
 
PixelPusher said:
I've officially entered the "acceptance" phase as the fan of a losing team. Watching them get blown out didn't illicit any sort of emotion from me today.

I know why the Niner's offense is the 2nd worse in the league, I just can't quite figure out how our defense is last in the league. We've had worse defenses (talent wise, anyway) than the one on the field right now.
2 things: 1- secondary. Everyone is injured. Practice squad is now starting. Our linemen aren't bad, and we're actually in the top half of the league in stopping the run and getting sacks (well, I don't know after this game, but we weren't bad before) 2-a terrible offense means the D stays on the field for a long time and keeps going out. D tires quicker than offense, and additionally, since the D can't score as easily, sooner or later offenses will break through, and then by the second half and later in the game everyone is completely tired out and demoralized, so failure just leads to more failure. I think if stats were broken down into yards/minutes, pnts/possession, we wouldn't be a mile behind the second worst teams. (excluding today's disaster, which was something like 9 possessions, 6 TDs + FG at one poiint)
 
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i dont know man.... i really think frank gore is our future..... but then again its hard to pass on a gem like reggie bush.... im glad i dont have to make that decision