Napear Goes Off on THE Bee Again
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LPKingsFan
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Agreed. Actually don't mind Grant and Jerry on TV. It's Grant's radio show that is a complete joke. It's bad for the fans, and bad for the city, IMO.
Marty Mac's world: Who makes the call? No one is answering
By Martin McNeal - Bee Staff Writer
http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/109721.html
wow.
By Martin McNeal - Bee Staff Writer
MartyMac said:
http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/109721.html
wow.
LPKingsFan
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Couldn't one of the Maloofs or Petrie hinted that they'd like to see more of the younger players? Then Muss says Hart wasn't playing because of upper management. The Bee then asks Petrie if he said not to play Hart and he says no. But maybe he still said something about playing younger, but nothing about Hart in particular. Isn't this a possibility that no one has mentioned???
I've had League Pass for four years (well, three and a half; I only had it for half the season in 04-05 before I went on deployment), and I dispute this vehemently; I watch other teams play all the time, and I rank Napear/Reynolds as one of the five worst announce teams in the entire league.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
I heard the whole thing..
today and it was hiarious. Grant ripped Marty and than Marty comes on and defends himself which I agree. I mean when he asks Muss for his cell number Muss tells him I dont know my number. How do u not know ur telephone number? That right there says Muss doesnt want ineraction with Marty which I dont know why? also Grant and Marty are real good friends so I was shocked when I heard them arguging especially when Marty called back up and called Grant out and questioning his crediability which after Grant said oh Marty I dont want to hear and Grant hung up and Marty went on for like another minute and than Lamb says he hung up lol and Marty goes oh he did, he talks about people being gutless I guess he is gutless now. Oh and btw Grant and Jerry are one of the top five pbp teams in the nba IMO, if u hear the other crap around the the nba that is called "announcing".
today and it was hiarious. Grant ripped Marty and than Marty comes on and defends himself which I agree. I mean when he asks Muss for his cell number Muss tells him I dont know my number. How do u not know ur telephone number? That right there says Muss doesnt want ineraction with Marty which I dont know why? also Grant and Marty are real good friends so I was shocked when I heard them arguging especially when Marty called back up and called Grant out and questioning his crediability which after Grant said oh Marty I dont want to hear and Grant hung up and Marty went on for like another minute and than Lamb says he hung up lol and Marty goes oh he did, he talks about people being gutless I guess he is gutless now. Oh and btw Grant and Jerry are one of the top five pbp teams in the nba IMO, if u hear the other crap around the the nba that is called "announcing".
Packt
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I guess I won't get into the debate on who said what, but I feel it's not hard to come to the conclusion that Hart wasn't playing because the team was going younger. Hart has barely played and yet as we approach the half-way mark, the back-up PG position is still a question mark. The organization is clearly looking at developing other investments.
This could've all been avoided had they just told Hart they are waiting for the deadline to see what's available, and if nothing is suitable they'll look into waiving him.
Anyhow is this the beginning of the end for Musselman. Things can get real nasty once the media is no longer on your side.
This could've all been avoided had they just told Hart they are waiting for the deadline to see what's available, and if nothing is suitable they'll look into waiving him.
Anyhow is this the beginning of the end for Musselman. Things can get real nasty once the media is no longer on your side.
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most_casual_observer
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and he said he actually intended to go even stronger but got stuffed by the editors.
ezekielbear
Bench
All in all, a BIG thank you goes to Ason Hart for being a complete and utter distraction for NO reason.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
ReinadelosReys
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This is just....so bizarre. Soap Opera Bizzare.
I stopped listening to Grant's show, and really KHTK all together sometime last season. The Bee has always been known to be a bit...."shady," but Marty McNeal, agree with him or not, has always been someone to tell it like it is. Grant tends to talk about of both sides of his mouth and few other places as well. Then he was paired up with Mike Lam and he's just become unbearable, but I digress....
Marty was the Kings beat writer for years, has been coming on Grants show for years and for Grant to attack him like this is puzzling. But I guess Grant has to keep his paycheck coming. And not that I blame him for that, but so much for a little bit of integrity instead of pointing fingers without having all the facts.
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Seems like muss was trying to at least find a nice way to say he didn't want to give his number to any dork reporter who asks and then get calls all the time. Sounds ruder that way but why would you want to give this guy your number anyway, he'd just hand it out when he decides to backstab you like he did here.
Kev.in
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But the thing is, Marty isn't some generic "dork reporter". If that's what Muss came up with after meeting and talking with Marty, I'd have to say he came up short on that assessment.
4cwebb
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Actually, I know plenty of people don't know their own cell phone numbers because they never call their own cell phones. Not to mention that cell phone memories store all of their other phone numbers, so they don't remember those, either. It may not be the norm, but I wouldn't presume right off the bat that Muss was lying just because he couldn't give Marty his cell phone number off the top of his head.
Now, if Marty said "take out your cell phone and figure it out", and Muss declined, that would seem much more standoff-ish to me.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Regardless of what was exactly said or not, he could have made sure Marty had his phone if he had wanted to.
How do you come to know people like this, and where did their parents go wrong? Are these people unemployed? Have they never drafted a résumé? Never applied for a job?
You don't know your phone number because you don't call your own phone? That makes about as much sense to me as not knowing your address because you don't send yourself mail...
Fresno King
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-SIGH-
-This crap never went on with Adelman.
-Hart sucks and his agent needs to shut-up.
-All of this gibberish is a waste of Sac Bee sports page space.
-Musselman is digging his own grave.
-I'd rather open a thread about Mike Peplowski's days as a King than write about this BS anymore.
-This crap never went on with Adelman.
-Hart sucks and his agent needs to shut-up.
-All of this gibberish is a waste of Sac Bee sports page space.
-Musselman is digging his own grave.
-I'd rather open a thread about Mike Peplowski's days as a King than write about this BS anymore.
4cwebb
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How do you come to know people like this, and where did their parents go wrong? Are these people unemployed? Have they never drafted a résumé? Never applied for a job?
You don't know your phone number because you don't call your own phone? That makes about as much sense to me as not knowing your address because you don't send yourself mail...
I guess I'm just "lucky" to know these people (each of whom are employed, most of whom in white collar jobs). I'm not saying it makes sense to me (or that I don't know my own cell phone number off of the top of my head), I'm just saying. I chalk it up to not being able to remember sequences of numbers very well.
slugking50
All-Star
I am really kicking myself for missing Sportsline..... This sucks!
Marty calling out Grant is pure awesomeness. One of many reasons why I like Marty Mac!
I dont always agree with him but I njoy hearing his opinion.
Marty calling out Grant is pure awesomeness. One of many reasons why I like Marty Mac!
I dont always agree with him but I njoy hearing his opinion.
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I am really kicking myself for missing Sportsline..... This sucks!
Marty calling out Grant is pure awesomeness. One of many reasons why I like Marty Mac!
I dont always agree with him but I njoy hearing his opinion.
Amazingly, KHTK has already posted the audio archives.
http://sports1140.com/article.asp?id=48647
I've already downloaded the files in case they yank them, and if so, I can send them to someone who has the ability to host them for others. Although, it doesn't have Marty calling out Grant? There must have been a 2nd conversation or something, because they hang up on amicable terms.
My take: Before listening, I was skeptical of Marty's story as told in this thread. I wondered, what did it say BEFORE, and how would the editor have changed it? But after listening to his story, I think I get it. I believe the story originally read:
"mmm, the caller says it's Eric Musselman, the Kings' coach."
Because in explanation, he says the caller said, "Hey Marty. It's Eric." Marty then asked, "Who?" And he said, "Eric Musselman." So, if the sentence reads as I wrote it above, an editor, not thinking clearly, could think that Marty meant to say the "caller ID."
I don't think Marty is lying.
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My take.....
Personally, I thought Marty was out of line in the way he blasted Muss, inferring he was a liar and calling him the "Little Dude".
When Grant called him out about the phone call, Marty was backtracking big time.
So what if Muss didn't want to find out what the cell number was and give it to him? Sometimes it's better to offer an excuse rather than say something like .."You're a freaking idiot and I'd rather not have you calling me on my personal time."
Like him or not, Grant was completely right in my opinion.
Personally, I thought Marty was out of line in the way he blasted Muss, inferring he was a liar and calling him the "Little Dude".
When Grant called him out about the phone call, Marty was backtracking big time.
So what if Muss didn't want to find out what the cell number was and give it to him? Sometimes it's better to offer an excuse rather than say something like .."You're a freaking idiot and I'd rather not have you calling me on my personal time."
Like him or not, Grant was completely right in my opinion.
CaminoChaos
Bench
You know things are bad when we are discussing what was written in the paper about Jason Hart.
But that's an entirely different issue. Was Marty's article kind of stupid and immature? Yes, yes it was. But was HE the liar, as Grant accused him over and over of being? No, I don't think he was. I believe his story, it makes sense. Whether or not he should have implied that Muss is a liar, and whether or not he should have insulted Muss is a separate discussion.
Napear went way overboard, as he is wont to do.
The problem is..... which story do you believe?
The one written in the article or the one offered up later as an excuse?
It's like many professional BB's out there. I belong to some that are trade mags. When some company does somebody wrong and it's get's posted online, the said company is fast to make amends and offer excuses up. Unfortunatly, it's usually not sincere and most see it for what it is. Damage control.
Not unlike this situation.
The one written in the article or the one offered up later as an excuse?
It's like many professional BB's out there. I belong to some that are trade mags. When some company does somebody wrong and it's get's posted online, the said company is fast to make amends and offer excuses up. Unfortunatly, it's usually not sincere and most see it for what it is. Damage control.
Not unlike this situation.
kupman
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My take:
Marty looks like a complete a** on this one. The article is condenscending and hypocritical. It is just plain unprofessional to refer to our coach as "little guy" and "cat." It is hypocritical because he says somebody is lying (hints that it Muss) and within the article itself Marty tells a lie (Eric did not use his cell phone). Marty then blames editing on this when Grant calls him on it. Then a bit later, trying to save face he calls Grant and starts in with this garbage about 'how can you be objective when the Kings cut you paycheck' kind of stuff. I do not blame Grant for hanging up the phone.
This is the kind of stuff you can expect from the Bee. It is just a bush league paper that fabricates things in the name of writing stories.
Marty looks like a complete a** on this one. The article is condenscending and hypocritical. It is just plain unprofessional to refer to our coach as "little guy" and "cat." It is hypocritical because he says somebody is lying (hints that it Muss) and within the article itself Marty tells a lie (Eric did not use his cell phone). Marty then blames editing on this when Grant calls him on it. Then a bit later, trying to save face he calls Grant and starts in with this garbage about 'how can you be objective when the Kings cut you paycheck' kind of stuff. I do not blame Grant for hanging up the phone.
This is the kind of stuff you can expect from the Bee. It is just a bush league paper that fabricates things in the name of writing stories.
nbrans
All-Star
Not to overanalyze a spat between three largely inane people, and maybe this is stating the obvious, but this never would have happened to Adelman. Even if Adelman completely snubbed McNeal, insulted him and his kids and also did not give him his cell phone number you never would have seen an article like this. He has/had too much stature as an NBA figure, and if there was a public battle of credibility McNeal would have lost every single time.
Not so our diminuitive credibility-challenged head coach. Now in a petty squabble McNeal feels the freedom to do a complete body-slam, further lessening Musselman's credibility and furthering the conventional wisdom that he's not a good coach.
I agree with Kupman though -- McNeal needs to get over it if Muss doesn't give him his cell. It's not Musselman's responsibility to be at McNeal's beck and call. And who really cares why Jason Hart isn't playing -- the fact that he sucks should be reason enough. I'm no Napear fan, but this is all McNeal stirring the pot for no apparent reason.
Not so our diminuitive credibility-challenged head coach. Now in a petty squabble McNeal feels the freedom to do a complete body-slam, further lessening Musselman's credibility and furthering the conventional wisdom that he's not a good coach.
I agree with Kupman though -- McNeal needs to get over it if Muss doesn't give him his cell. It's not Musselman's responsibility to be at McNeal's beck and call. And who really cares why Jason Hart isn't playing -- the fact that he sucks should be reason enough. I'm no Napear fan, but this is all McNeal stirring the pot for no apparent reason.
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