My thoughts on the Kings this offseason

[Catalyst]

This is what I don't understand. You are Petrie. You call every NBA team and ask what they would give for Bibby. You take the best offer. Is that offer $.50 on the $1.00? How can it be anything other than $1.00 on the $1.00?

My counter point to this would be some times if you wait — the offers are much better.

This doesn't mean waiting years, sometimes just half a season and teams start offering draft picks or a little more than they would have before...

 

[Warhawk]

My counter point to this would be some times if you wait — the offers are much better.

This doesn't mean waiting years, sometimes just half a season and teams start offering draft picks or a little more than they would have before...

I guess the point is: whatever the best offer is for a person is $1 for $1 at that time. Those offers *will* (usually) change over time. Doesn't make them any less valid at the time they were made.

 

[bloom]

It would be a mistake to start trading these guys for .50 on the dollar. It is kind of like selling a good stock when it is performing at its lowest level. GP is much smarter than to push the panic button and begin giving the store away to the rest of the league during a Kings garage sale.

I agree with you. I also don't like how people are willing to trade some of our players for nothing or enders. I want to trade some of our players and I've mentioned it several times but I don't want to get rid of them for nothing. get rid of them for the right pieces and people who are going to mesh (and can shoot the ball).

I think the thing that we really are lacking is a true leader (besides a shotblocker who can shoot the ball). We don't have that and we didn't have it ever since vlade left. He was our glue, he made the team come together and non of the players on our team can do that (maybe cisco, but he needs time to show what he can really do). Mike isn't a leader, Brad isn't even close (if we are going to keep brad, which I don't have a problem with, I hope he comes off the bench but we need to find another starter to take his place), Ron has lost his team captain spot because he can't think straight, forget sar, kenny and salmons...Leader, we need one, and if it means getting rid of Kenny Thomas or Shareef then so be it. sorry, I just had to have a little fun at the end.

 

[Kingster]

My counter point to this would be some times if you wait — the offers are much better.

This doesn't mean waiting years, sometimes just half a season and teams start offering draft picks or a little more than they would have before...

My counter point is there can easily be a downside to waiting, just as much or more than an upside. If you want to rebuild your team, and you don't have a crystal ball that tells you whether Bibby is going to be worth more or less 6 months from now, then you deal him when you have the chance, after considering all offers. The cost of not doing so is prolonging unnecessarily the rebuilding process, which is what we've been doing for the last 2 years.

 

[Kingster]

It would be a mistake to start trading these guys for .50 on the dollar. It is kind of like selling a good stock when it is performing at its lowest level. GP is much smarter than to push the panic button and begin giving the store away to the rest of the league during a Kings garage sale.

Have you heard the phrase, "Cut your losses"? The people that haven't cut their losses are still holding Sun Microsystems at about 2 or thereabouts, when it used to be around a 100. I like Petrie. But I think even he would admit - if you gave him truth serum - that he has a tendency to let his losses run rather than cut them. Artest is a perfect example. Peja is another. And it looks like Bibby might be another. Each one showed signs that their value was diminishing, for one reason or another, but the tendency was to let the losses run, rather than to cut them.

 

[Catalyst]

My counter point is there can easily be a downside to waiting, just as much or more than an upside. If you want to rebuild your team, and you don't have a crystal ball that tells you whether Bibby is going to be worth more or less 6 months from now, then you deal him when you have the chance, after considering all offers. The cost of not doing so is prolonguing unecessarily the rebuilding process, which is what we've been doing for the last 2 years.

Fair statement, but I think in the case of Bibby, the offers will be better now than they were mid-season.

I think we had one team interested before the trade deadline this year, Cleveland, and I'm pretty happy we didn't accept their trading scraps when Mike Bibby now looks like he could be a key piece in a trade we do.

 

[kupman]

Have you heard the phrase, "Cut your losses"? The people that haven't cut their losses are still holding Sun Microsystems at about 2 or thereabouts, when it used to be around a 100. I like Petrie. But I think even he would admit - if you gave him truth serum - that he has a tendency to let is losses run rather than cut them. Artest is a perfect example. Peja is another. And it looks like Bibby might be another. Each one showed signs that their value was diminishing, for one reason or another, but the tendency was to let the losses run, rather than to cut them.

I understand what you and many others are saying. My opinion is just different.

I believe that Bibby is a very good point guard. I see no need to cut losses because his physical skills have not changed in the past several seasons. Performance - perhaps, but physical abilities - no.

Furthermore, what has made Bibby so valuable in the past to this team is he is a clutch performer with the game on the line. With less than 2 minutes left I want the ball in his hands and I certainly want him taking the final shot. I have no idea why the ball was not in his hands at the end of games this year.

I also believe that Miller can be a very effective scorer and passer for this team. Artest is perhaps our best player and has the ability to be one of the top defenders in the league. These guys can play. It just does not look like they can when the entire team is running around looking confused.

 

[Jerryaki]

Furthermore, what has made Bibby so valuable in the past to this team is he is a clutch performer with the game on the line.

since the epic playoffs of the golden era, how clutch has he been? i can remember like one or two clutch moments for him (regular season games) since then...

 

[Kingster]

Fair statement, but I think in the case of Bibby, the offers will be better now than they were mid-season.

I think we had one team interested before the trade deadline this year, Cleveland, and I'm pretty happy we didn't accept their trading scraps when Mike Bibby now looks like he could be a key piece in a trade we do.

Great. So we are in agreement. There is no reason to wait. TRADE BIBBY NOW.