Monta Ellis Interest

[jthompson1]

"Monta Ellis' potential interest in joining @SacramentoKings as a FA became much stronger with hiring of Mike Malone as coach, source told Y!"

Apparently Monta Ellis has a lot of interest in signing with the Kings. Obviously Malone coached Ellis in GS.

This however goes away from our defensive standpoint. An Evans Ellis backcourt is a little scary to me but I'd be willing to give it a try. Heck, it's nice to see that there is interest from FA's.

 

[funkykingston]

The Kings don't have the caproom to sign Ellis AND Tyreke. If Monta is signed by Sacramento it would be to replace Evans.

 

[ParniValjak]

The Kings don't have the caproom to sign Ellis AND Tyreke. If Monta is signed by Sacramento it would be to replace Evans.

And I for one would be pissed off in a major way. I can't help but feel that this is BS story. Malone and Vivek were part of the group that traded a way Ellis because they wanted to add more size to the backcourt and did not see Ellis-Curry backcourt working out.

Ellis is an undersized, selfish chucker. They very thing that we are trying to get rid off.

 

[funkykingston]

I want the Kings to re-sign Tyreke.

If some team offers a crazy deal and the Kings decide not to match I'd understand.

If they choose to let him go because they want to move in a different direction I'd be disappointed/upset but I'd give them the benefit of the doubt until the next moves were made.

But if they let Tyreke walk to sign Ellis I will be furious.

I am hugely grateful to the new ownership group for keeping my team where it belongs. But if they can't be an improvement in the Maloofs in terms of building a successful team then they will burn up a lot of the goodwill (at least for me) that they've bought with their actions thus far.

 

[GeorgeofSacramento]

Let's look at the bright side (and I DO see this as a bright side). When's the last time other players publicly WANTED to join the Kings?

 

[sdballer]

I'm going to choose to look at the big picture in this. A lot depends on how much Reke and Evans are looking for and what else we do with our team. Let's just pretend that we find a way to unload MT and IT for a more needed piece. Then Monta becomes our gunner off the bench. Unlikely, but after the bs of the last few years, I'm ready to start thinking bigger.

 

[macadocious]

 

[macadocious]

LOL Jason Jones

Jason Jones @mr_jasonjones

I like Monta Ellis. He'd be the best guard the Kings have. But they'd have to get rid of the various versions of Monta they already have.

 

[VF21]

"Monta Ellis' potential interest in joining @SacramentoKings as a FA became much stronger with hiring of Mike Malone as coach, source told Y!"

Apparently Monta Ellis has a lot of interest in signing with the Kings. Obviously Malone coached Ellis in GS.

This however goes away from our defensive standpoint. An Evans Ellis backcourt is a little scary to me but I'd be willing to give it a try. Heck, it's nice to see that there is interest from FA's.

Who tweeted that?

EDIT: I found the answer. It's from Marc Spears. What I found more interesting was Aaron Bruski's comment: "But are they interested in him?"

My answer...nope.

I don't think he makes us better and I don't think he fills any gaps.

 

[Gilles]

Malone was some part of the process that sent Monta on his way out. Good job by Monta's agent though.

 

[sdballer]

Who tweeted that?

EDIT: I found the answer. It's from Marc Spears. What I found more interesting was Aaron Bruski's comment: "But are they interested in him?"

My answer...nope.

I don't think he makes us better and I don't think he fills any gaps.

Again, I think it depends on what else we do. I tossed it out on the granger thread but if we traded MT/IT/Salmons for Granger we could conceivable sign Ellis to be our main guard off the bench for probably close to what IT/MT make now. It replaces more than fills a gap but combined with other moves, I wouldn't be opposed.

 

[Kings Faithful]

Again, I think it depends on what else we do. I tossed it out on the granger thread but if we traded MT/IT/Salmons for Granger we could conceivable sign Ellis to be our main guard off the bench for probably close to what IT/MT make now. It replaces more than fills a gap but combined with other moves, I wouldn't be opposed.

I don't think Granger would be a wise investment. He's 30 and coming off season ending knee surgery... Also Ellis would never want to come off the bench. He wants to be the man which is a major part of why I don't want him. I'm sick of that 1 on 1 street ball crap.

 

[ParniValjak]

Again, I think it depends on what else we do. I tossed it out on the granger thread but if we traded MT/IT/Salmons for Granger we could conceivable sign Ellis to be our main guard off the bench for probably close to what IT/MT make now. It replaces more than fills a gap but combined with other moves, I wouldn't be opposed.

Let's assume Granger is as good as he has ever been. Let's even assume we get him, the question is just how many scorers do you need on the team?!

Our problem at the moment is that we have too mane as is. Cousins, Evans, MT, IT, Jimmer, Salmons et al all need a large volume of shots to be effective. We should be dumping 3 of the last 4 from that list for more role players and not more scorers.

 

[sdballer]

Let's assume Granger is as good as he has ever been. Let's even assume we get him, the question is just how many scorers do you need on the team?!

Our problem at the moment is that we have too mane as is. Cousins, Evans, MT, IT, Jimmer, Salmons et al all need a large volume of shots to be effective. We should be dumping 3 of the last 4 from that list for more role players and not more scorers.

Agreed. That's why I suggested sending them MT/IT/Salmons for Granger.

Just to be clear, I'm not totally sold on Granger as the answer. What I am sold on is eliminating some of the chuckers, potentially freeing up some extra dough and starting to develop something close to a cohesive roster.

I don't think the trade value for our spare pieces (MT/IT/Salmons/Hayes/Outlaw) is that high which is why the Granger deal intrigues me. A potentially really good 3rd weapon/super role player whose value is very low and who has an big expiring deal that allows us to send back some longer term salary. If I could include Hayes instead of Salmons and then amnesty John, even better but I think Indiana passes.

 

[Mass]

Again, I think it depends on what else we do. I tossed it out on the granger thread but if we traded MT/IT/Salmons for Granger we could conceivable sign Ellis to be our main guard off the bench for probably close to what IT/MT make now. It replaces more than fills a gap but combined with other moves, I wouldn't be opposed.

Not going to happen. Ellis has another year on his contract, an 11 million player option. MT and IT combined will make around 9 million next year. Ellis is not going to opt out from his contract just to take a smaller deal. If he does opt out is because he's going to get more on the market. He won't accept an 8/9 million deal. And it's fine, I don't like him, he is not what we need, and I don't want to see him in this team. Give me Tony Allen from the bench and I'll be much happier.

 

[NewArena]

Cool. As long as the feeling isn't mutual, I'm good.

 

[NewArena]

Again, I think it depends on what else we do. I tossed it out on the granger thread but if we traded MT/IT/Salmons for Granger we could conceivable sign Ellis to be our main guard off the bench for probably close to what IT/MT make now. It replaces more than fills a gap but combined with other moves, I wouldn't be opposed.

No thank you. He's everything we don't need. "Off the bench" changes nothing, because he'd still be getting major minutes. Getting a defensive minded coach is awesome, but what's the point, if we're just gonna be tossing in chuckers that are allergic to D? The beautiful possibility of Evans and Cousins reaching their full potential is, they're built for the playoffs.

 

[KingsFanGER]

This Season Ellis dished out 6.0 APG. I did not watch that many Bucks-Games, but this doesnt sound very selfish for a combo-guard. The downside is his weak FG-percentage and that he isnt a threat from 3-point-range.
Basically Ellis is a starting-5-caliber combo guard and wont be signed by the Kings just to get another option from the bench. If the Kings sign Ellis, Evans wont be resigned.
I would prefer keeping Evans, but if he refuses to resign with the Kings, Ellis is not a bad solution. He provides some slashing, a nice mid range game and good court vision. The big question is, if he would accept, that he is the second option on offense and that the ball needs to hit Cousins at least once on the majority of possessions, but this has to be same if Evans resigns.

 

[Mojo]

I think there's mutual intrest even if we don't want to believe it. The Kings and Ellis have been linked together for the past couple of months to go along with the report that someone in the ownership group was interested in Monta weeks ago. This might be a case of 'when there's smoke there's fire'.

 

[Mass]

The only possible scenario where I can see a little reason for this, is if we want to bring Reke back at PG and trade Thornton. But I'm not even sure this is much of an upgrade, considering Ellis will be 29 this year and will earn at least 4 millions more than MT. Of course Ellis is a better passer and maybe defender, but MT is a better shooter and looks tougher.
No way I want to let Reke walk to bring Ellis in. A backourt of IT and Ellis would be a disaster.

 

[funkykingston]

I think there's mutual intrest even if we don't want to believe it. The Kings and Ellis have been linked together for the past couple of months to go along with the report that someone in the ownership group was interested in Monta weeks ago. This might be a case of 'when there's smoke there's fire'.

Tim Kawakami threw it out there that Ellis was Ranadive's favorite Warrior. Sheesh.

If the new Kings ownership let Tyreke walk, sign Ellis and trade Cousins then they'd actually be a downgrade from the Maloofs in terms of being team builders. And if Chris Wallace really is the favorite as GM I wouldn't expect any help from the #7 pick given his draft history.

I'm going to stay cautiously optimistic, but this is a make or break offseason for this franchise.

 

[HndsmCelt]

IF and this is a BIG IF, the new owners want to bring in Ellis they would have to clear out most of the min-chuckers for him. I for one would be fine with an Evans Ellis back court, with Douglas and/or IT comming off the bench. But to add bodies to an already glutted position makes no sense unless you are going to clear out some folks. Ellis is a very good shooter, can and will pass and played some D so I do consider him an upgrade to every guard we have not named Evans, he might even make a nice second choice if Evans is determined to walk, but given Evans presence at he rallies and the plethora of #13 Jerseys being sported by Randive and other new faces, I don't think that is very likely.

 

[Hallama]

Highly doubt Ranadive & Malone would actually go out of their way for Monta. They both have intimate knowledge of two of Monta's bad decisions off the court:

1. Scooter accident: Monta obliterated his knee (or was it ankle?) from wrecking a scooter, something he tried to cover up after signing a new contract.
2. Pictures of his junk to a Warriors employee, lol. Warriors got sued, pretty sure they settled. He was traded later that year.

 

[ESP47]

His shooting stats from this year are horrendous. FG 41% 3PT 29% while scoring 19 PPG. That's chucking at it's max. We already have Thornton who can do that with better efficiency. Ellis is a better assist man than anyone on our team but that's the only positive he brings.

I don't see why any coach would allow this guy to come in chucking the ball to the tune of 19 PPG. It's such a waste of offensive possessions. If he brought it on D it might be a different story, but he doesn't play any D at all other than swiping a steal or two a game while letting his man score 20+ anyway.

If we sign him it'll set the team back a few years.

 

[funkykingston]

His shooting stats from this year are horrendous. FG 41% 3PT 29% while scoring 19 PPG. That's chucking at it's max. We already have Thornton who can do that with better efficiency. Ellis is a better assist man than anyone on our team but that's the only positive he brings.

I don't see why any coach would allow this guy to come in chucking the ball to the tune of 19 PPG. It's such a waste of offensive possessions. If he brought it on D it might be a different story, but he doesn't play any D at all other than swiping a steal or two a game while letting his man score 20+ anyway.

If we sign him it'll set the team back a few years.

The one thing I will say in defense of Ellis is that he is a MUCH better defender than most people realize, even when being asked to guard much bigger SGs. That said, his offensive inefficiency is enough reason to not want him, let alone his likely cost, off the court transgressions and poor fit next to Tyreke and DeMarcus

 

[Padrino]

this just sounds like more nonsense floated from monta's agent. any time a source claims that a player has an interest in joining a team, it's usually coming from the agent, rather than the player himself. and even if ellis has a legitimate interest in coming to sacramento, we have yet to hear anything concrete about the kings' interest in him. i seriously doubt ranadive/kings new GM lets 'reke walk just to scoop up ellis instead. and i really can't imagine the team signing both 'reke and ellis this offseason...

 

[sidney]

Smell that? It's a slimy agent desperately trying to drive up the price of their player by keeping him in the headlines and manufacturing "interest" from around the league.

There's an awful lot of Ellis rumors being talked about and all make him appear in a favorable light. Interesting for a guy that just had a horribly inefficient season and has a bad reputation off the court.

 

[funkykingston]

Smell that? It's a slimy agent desperately trying to drive up the price of their player by keeping him in the headlines and manufacturing "interest" from around the league.

There's an awful lot of Ellis rumors being talked about and all make him appear in a favorable light. Interesting for a guy that just had a horribly inefficient season and has a bad reputation off the court.

Considering this is coming on the heels of the rumor that "Bucks executives" were more interested in keeping Ellis than Jennings I'd have to agree.

 

[cuad]

If Ellis could actually shoot the ball, I wouldn't mind, but he can't, so he must stay far away from the team.

 

[Darth Divac]

If this were always Good Monta, I'd be very tempted. But he isn't always Good Monta. Good Monta began to fade when he was traded to Milwaukee. Now, he flucuates between Good Monta and the horrible, 100,000,000,000,000,000 headed beast known only as "Bad Monta"

Good Monta is a balanced, dynamic, athletic offensive player. He scores a very high volume with efficiency, and is capable of creating for his teammates.(Exhibit:2010-11 season, when Monta averaged 24 PPG on 45% shooting and 36% from three, as well as 5.6 assists.) He knows when to drive, shoot, and pass. He can defend better than most realize, and he is one of the best shooting guards in the league.

BUT BAD MONTA. Bad Monta chucks threes 5 seconds into the clock, shoot all sorts of ugly, contested shots and layups, misses easy shots, goes ISO and refuses to pass, doesn't play a lick of D, becomes a cancer to the team, causes turnovers, (Exhibit: This season, 41% FG, 28% 3PT, 3.7 TO's) and is generally the farthest thing from Good Monta that could possibly be in the same body.

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is extremely likely that should we sign this player, it is Bad Monta that will come. Until he can be Good Monta consistently, he is a no-no.