Mike Brown “likely” to be Knicks next head coach

We had reports that Brown called Collins and Ingram low IQ guys and vetoed. Like I said - didn't want them, don't know what the trades were, but both are PF and the type of bodies we could use and probably would have been upgrades to Barnes although not ones that put us over the top.

As far as who quit on the team. I think we got Fox who seemed to check out when he realized All-NBA was off the table, he's gone.

Kevin? He's gone. DDR seemed to check out for a bit in the run up to Fox being traded and was clearly not happy after the honeymoon. Most people can't wait to shed him. Lyles? packing.

Domas? Despite reports he didn't like the teams direction he always seemed to play all out.
Monk? I don't know but Brown should have never resorted to starting him instead of giving Keon a chance there given the metrics.
Keegan did everything he was asked. Keon too.

Sorry going to disagree on Keon when he let a dozen other guys play through their mistakes and it cost us games him being extra hard with Keon makes zero sense. Same frankly with Fox saying it was Brown or bust, that was just an easy avenue for him to finally ask out. He cost Brown his job with his play vs. the Pistons. Sure, sure he was probably dead man walking at that point but moreso than anyone Fox was not responding to Brown's coaching.

Collins and Ingram are low IQ players. Neither of those guys was going to be the answer either. What we needed then and still need now is a guy who shows up every day to do the dirty work that doesn't win you personal accolades and huge contract extensions. A good old fashioned bruiser who just lives for rebounds and screens and making the other team miserable. Those guys exist -- the good GMs and coaches want them.

What's notable to me is that Fox is one of the guys who did not quit on Mike Brown during that rough stretch in December. And he stuck around long enough post-firing to get blamed for it while his teammates slunk back into the shadows. That's when all hell broke loose with his agent telling the Kings he wasn't eager to re-up to be the face out in front of the clown show for another 5 years. I defended him the way I did because I completely agreed with his reaction to all of that. There was a struggle for power behind the scenes and the wrong side won.

The whole focus with Keon was on his team defense. He's capable of making brilliant individual plays when matched up on the ball but he's not always making the right reads to help out his teammates and I saw Mike Brown pull him from games at times and talk to him about it. I agree that Mike Brown gave lesser defenders a lot more rope with a lot more egregious mistakes but that's part of his M.O. He coaches the best players harder because he sees their potential to be great. Maybe that was the source of the resentment behind the scenes? Inadvertently creating factions within your locker room by coaching some players and ignoring others is never going to go well. He certainly is not the most diplomatic of leaders either and that more than anything seems to be why he keeps losing his head coaching jobs.
 
Mike Brown was not the problem. I’d g looking at those players who quit or stopped their buy in and then of course, Vivek is always involved. I hope Brown wins a championship
 

*searches for wing help*
*DNPs Keon Ellis and refuses to start him instead of Red Velvet*


Also OG hasn’t really been a wing since like his third or fourth year in the league.

Such a joke lol. I'd have some empathy if he actually played Keon the minutes he should have been playing. Same with Doug at the end of the year with Devin Carter.

Cannot complain about defense when you dont play your defensive talent
 

*searches for wing help*
*DNPs Keon Ellis and refuses to start him instead of Red Velvet*


Also OG hasn’t really been a wing since like his third or fourth year in the league.
I think this is just Brown being Brown. He talked up a lot of guys here. Domas was supposedly the whole reason he came and then once we got Domas locked under contract he shifted to all Fox all the time. This is not me being critical just pointing out I think Brown was more trying to hype up his new roster than pee on the Kings. OG made it pretty clear he would sign with the Knicks when he got to FA and even if anyone thought it was worth the gamble, Toronto's asking price when we were expressing interest was obscene some combo of 3 picks and Keegan IIRC.
 
I think this is just Brown being Brown. He talked up a lot of guys here. Domas was supposedly the whole reason he came and then once we got Domas locked under contract he shifted to all Fox all the time. This is not me being critical just pointing out I think Brown was more trying to hype up his new roster than pee on the Kings. OG made it pretty clear he would sign with the Knicks when he got to FA and even if anyone thought it was worth the gamble, Toronto's asking price when we were expressing interest was obscene some combo of 3 picks and Keegan IIRC.
Yeah, from what I remember...The chances of OG coming to Sacramento at the time were virtually non-existent, especially considering what our roster looked like at the time.
 

*searches for wing help*
*DNPs Keon Ellis and refuses to start him instead of Red Velvet*


Also OG hasn’t really been a wing since like his third or fourth year in the league.

Keon Ellis is a guard, not a wing. And he did try Red Velvet at SF at some point, which smacks of all-out desperation. KZ Okpala was supposed to be our salvation in that first year after he played well for Mike Brown on the Nigerian National Team but he never panned out as an NBA player. Then there were the Sasha Vezenkov and Kessler Edwards trial runs which didn't work either. Anunoby at PF would have been so money for the Beam Team when he was on the trade block, but it's hard to compete with Madison Square Garden once that's on the table.

This is actually shade at Scott Perry for drafting Justin Jackson and Harry Giles instead of OG ;)

I wanted OG Anunoby and Bam Adebayo in that draft with that #10 pick and both were on the board. And yes, since you asked, I am still salty about it.
 
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