Maloofs would let Petrie interview for Blazers job if he wanted
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kingjatt
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Joe already said its cool if petrie interviews so I doubt they would go that route. I really think there is a very strong possibility that they (joe/gavin) would assume the role of GM or best case hire a puppet. Anything to save a buck.
Padrino
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well of course the trailblazers wouldn't tamper. as the initial post in this thread brought to our attention, the maloofs have given recent indication that they would permit portland to contact petrie with regard to portland's gm vacancy. i just find clarity in the idea of petrie actually interviewing for the position, which would otherwise seem strange given his contract status with the kings. but if there were ever a good time to bail from this cluster**** of a franchise into a much more desirable position, i would think the perfect storm could be brewing for petrie. loyal though he may be, petrie certainly must be considering that his professional life will likely extend well beyond his tenure in sacramento, and i have to imagine that he's grown weary of seeing his reputation tarnished by gm'ing with his hands tied...
SacTownKid
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I'd have to hear the exact question that was asked. I'd bet that the question was along the lines of, "If Geoff wanted to leave and interview for someone else.....". How are you supposed to answer that question? "Uh, we'd force him to stay, hog tie him and make eat paint chips off the walls in the visitors locker room!"
Not I. There's certainly no reason to believe that the mystery candidate that has been interviewed is Petrie since he's described as a former NBA GM. I think the last report was that Portland had net requested permission to interview Petrie. That could change, but right now it doesn't look like there's anything obvious brewing.
Section 101
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IT the First !
I hope you're being sarcastic. If Jerry Reynolds becomes GM ... shudders.
captain bill
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I said it before, I'll say it again: I have no problem with the idea of moving on from Petrie, if that's part of cleaning house and bringing in fresh eyes to rebuild. I love a lot of the work he's done, and he's clearly a top-tier GM, but times have changed and I think things have been tough on him without having a coach who's on the same page since Adelman left.
But there isn't a chance in hell I would trust the Magoofs to pick a new "brain trust" that I imagine would be somewhere on par with the competency and professionalism of the crew from Always Sunny.
rainmaker
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Unfortunately, imo, Petrie staying has nothing to do with recent performance, and I use the term recent loosely, as in the last 6 years, but rather is based on our ownership. Basicaly picking between the lesser of two evils. Petrie does not deserve to remain as gm of this club, but the alternative could definitely and probably would be worse.
Big Cuz 15
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lol for all the ones that are supportive of getting a new gm. who could we possibly replace him with? how many competent gm's are there out there? if the maloofs are doing the hiring, we could have our pickins of whisenet, larry brown, isiaiah thomas. what's worse is if we could have "khan" at the helm. i'd be outraged if i was the minnesota fans with him passing on cousins for wesley johnson who is looking like a bust. ah well, the grass is always greener on the other side yeah? things will get alot worse before it gets better for us kings fans. magoofs will run this thing into the ground before ownership changes hands.
Jose
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So... Jeff Bower is the one who interviewed:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/220961/Jeff_Bower_Interviewed_With_Blazers
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/220961/Jeff_Bower_Interviewed_With_Blazers
Huh. I thought they said somebody who had "had success" as a GM at the NBA level.
Oh well, the timeline might be a little bit off, but you are still wrong in saying that Daly don't want to be in Sacramento. The bottom line is - he already indicated he was ready to go back and play for Sacramento, but the Kings organization rescinded their offer to Daly the very next day. Daly then ended-up with no choice but to sign for lesser money with Houston.
Rookie
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Here's how I think it went down after compiling all the articles (#1 is just speculation base on how things went down):
1. Dally wanted $$$ because big were over value that year. GP (or Maloof) don't want to pay more than what they're worth so released Dally to locked in on MT.
2. Houston released Hayes and worked on a 3 way deal to get Paul Gasol (Lakers get CP3).
3. We signed Hayes.
4. Stern say no on CP3 to Lakers.... meaning no Paul Gasol to Houston.
5. Houston work out deal with Dally but failed (probably the guy (or his agent) still wanted $$$).
6. Hayes failed test. Dally extended an invitation to SAC. He was quoted "Frustrated" that the deal with Houston didn't went through.
7. SAC put an offer of 7.x mil/year for 2 years (I think). He seemed to agree, fans were happy.
8. Next day, we took back the offer and MINUTES later we find out he signed with Houston.
(I don't think we would of pull the plug when we still need a big, fill the roster and reach the minimum salary. Hayes wasn't cleared for playing yet during this time. Also reaching a deal within minutes is not something I could see possible, more than likely Houston put in an offer the night before. I think we pulled the plug because we realized he signed with Houston, it's just the announcement was a few minutes faster on our end.)
9. Hayes was cleared the next day. Hayes thought of rejoining Houston but since they signed with Dally, he had to look at other options (Minny was interested in him early and Toronto was too).
10. Hayes signed with the Kings after we raised a little $$$ more for him.
You're right that it's wrong in saying Dally doesn't want to be here....Nobody wanted to be here would be more exact.
Glenn
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So we pulled our offer because he had already signed with Houston? I don't believe the Maloofs, do you? There is no logic in what you said except that is the way I remember the story also. How can you "pull an offer" on someone who has already signed elsewhere? It is more like he pulled the offer by making a choice.
FAs don't want to come here. The way our franchise is evolving , or is it devolving, it's not going to be any better. We have a franchise in chaos and there is no ray of hope that I can see. This is not the time to cavalierly let people walk, like JT, when no one else is walking our way. Pretty soon we will have no team except a huge collection of 2nd rounders.
Whatever happened with Daly, we don't have him and I think suffered mightily. If we don't have him because bigs are overvalued, get used to it. Since the beginning of the NBA, bigs have commanded salaries that are high and for good reason. It's not that they are overvalued. They are necessary. For $10 mil you can get a decent big but a spectacular SG. Should we only sign SGs because they are not "overvalued."
The shame of our situation is that it is necessary to overpay, which has a negative connotation to it, or we will never overcome our horrible reputation and dig ourselves out of the cellar. The shame is that we have owners who cannot "overpay."
Our problem is not the mystery of what happened to Daly or Tyreke's jumpshot. We can discuss them until the cows come home but in the end, with flat arse broke owners who are lying slime balls, we are going nowhere. Discuss the details because it's fun but let's not kid ourselves, it would be the very rare person who would volunatrily want to play for the Kings. Remember Cuz, in his adolescent burst of self rightiousness who promised to stay here and dig us out of the cellar? He will get older and that burst of enthusiasm may die. Let's take advantage of what we have and keep him happy. At this point, barring a top 3 pick, I don't see us going anywhere.
OK, now I must have conveyed the same idea three times in one note and I have said this before. I just can't keep posting and ignore the reality that posting is just to keep our basketball knowledge chops in complete functioning order and little else. Forums are just a mental exercise anyway but this one just by nature of the situation is so far away from anything possible than most. I wish there was something we could do to get this team sold. A petition to the NBA? What? This forum is read by the Kings FO. I need to think about this as, like bajaden, my feelings about this team and discussing it are dying. I just don't have phenomenal interest in college basketball to fall back on.
Maybe I'll go back to stamp collecting and that's not a joke. My jealousy of bajaden is huge.
Damn it folks, can we use this forum to push the NBA into nudging the Maloofs into selling? Can we also use it to encourage guys like JT to stay? Better put, can we encourage our franchise not to let JT walk? Can we do something useful? We have brains here, we have the typical Sacto enthusiasm, and we have an expereince where we have learned that a few highly energetic people can work miracles. The fans, with a great mayor, essentially got an arena built where there had been multiple failures until the Maloofs pulled the plug.
We need to hold on to Cuz, JT, Tyreke, and a few others perhaps just be letting other players know this is a decent place to play. As to the sale of the team, why not a well written petition signed by everyone we can corral addressed to the NBA? Somehow we, and I really do mean "WE," need to see if there is anything we can do to encourage the NBA to find an excuse, any excuse, to get rid of the Maloofs. Aren't they truly, logically, without scapegoating, the root evil to this franchise? We don't even have to paint them as bad people. We CAN paint them as poor people egotistically hanging on to a dream and as they sink in fulfilling their dream, they are dragging an entire metropolitan area and a few outliers down with them.
Without distortion, I think it can be safely said that an ownership of one business is having a negative impact on an entire area if only by ruining it's chances to build an arena downtown and advance to the 21st century. This is the way I see it.
FAs don't want to come here. The way our franchise is evolving , or is it devolving, it's not going to be any better. We have a franchise in chaos and there is no ray of hope that I can see. This is not the time to cavalierly let people walk, like JT, when no one else is walking our way. Pretty soon we will have no team except a huge collection of 2nd rounders.
Whatever happened with Daly, we don't have him and I think suffered mightily. If we don't have him because bigs are overvalued, get used to it. Since the beginning of the NBA, bigs have commanded salaries that are high and for good reason. It's not that they are overvalued. They are necessary. For $10 mil you can get a decent big but a spectacular SG. Should we only sign SGs because they are not "overvalued."
The shame of our situation is that it is necessary to overpay, which has a negative connotation to it, or we will never overcome our horrible reputation and dig ourselves out of the cellar. The shame is that we have owners who cannot "overpay."
Our problem is not the mystery of what happened to Daly or Tyreke's jumpshot. We can discuss them until the cows come home but in the end, with flat arse broke owners who are lying slime balls, we are going nowhere. Discuss the details because it's fun but let's not kid ourselves, it would be the very rare person who would volunatrily want to play for the Kings. Remember Cuz, in his adolescent burst of self rightiousness who promised to stay here and dig us out of the cellar? He will get older and that burst of enthusiasm may die. Let's take advantage of what we have and keep him happy. At this point, barring a top 3 pick, I don't see us going anywhere.
OK, now I must have conveyed the same idea three times in one note and I have said this before. I just can't keep posting and ignore the reality that posting is just to keep our basketball knowledge chops in complete functioning order and little else. Forums are just a mental exercise anyway but this one just by nature of the situation is so far away from anything possible than most. I wish there was something we could do to get this team sold. A petition to the NBA? What? This forum is read by the Kings FO. I need to think about this as, like bajaden, my feelings about this team and discussing it are dying. I just don't have phenomenal interest in college basketball to fall back on.
Maybe I'll go back to stamp collecting and that's not a joke. My jealousy of bajaden is huge.
Damn it folks, can we use this forum to push the NBA into nudging the Maloofs into selling? Can we also use it to encourage guys like JT to stay? Better put, can we encourage our franchise not to let JT walk? Can we do something useful? We have brains here, we have the typical Sacto enthusiasm, and we have an expereince where we have learned that a few highly energetic people can work miracles. The fans, with a great mayor, essentially got an arena built where there had been multiple failures until the Maloofs pulled the plug.We need to hold on to Cuz, JT, Tyreke, and a few others perhaps just be letting other players know this is a decent place to play. As to the sale of the team, why not a well written petition signed by everyone we can corral addressed to the NBA? Somehow we, and I really do mean "WE," need to see if there is anything we can do to encourage the NBA to find an excuse, any excuse, to get rid of the Maloofs. Aren't they truly, logically, without scapegoating, the root evil to this franchise? We don't even have to paint them as bad people. We CAN paint them as poor people egotistically hanging on to a dream and as they sink in fulfilling their dream, they are dragging an entire metropolitan area and a few outliers down with them.
Without distortion, I think it can be safely said that an ownership of one business is having a negative impact on an entire area if only by ruining it's chances to build an arena downtown and advance to the 21st century. This is the way I see it.
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SacTownKid
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Here's how I think it went down after compiling all the articles (#1 is just speculation base on how things went down):
1. Dally wanted $$$ because big were over value that year. GP (or Maloof) don't want to pay more than what they're worth so released Dally to locked in on MT.
2. Houston released Hayes and worked on a 3 way deal to get Paul Gasol (Lakers get CP3).
3. We signed Hayes.
4. Stern say no on CP3 to Lakers.... meaning no Paul Gasol to Houston.
5. Houston work out deal with Dally but failed (probably the guy (or his agent) still wanted $$$).
6. Hayes failed test. Dally extended an invitation to SAC. He was quoted "Frustrated" that the deal with Houston didn't went through.
7. SAC put an offer of 7.x mil/year for 2 years (I think). He seemed to agree, fans were happy.
8. Next day, we took back the offer and MINUTES later we find out he signed with Houston.
(I don't think we would of pull the plug when we still need a big, fill the roster and reach the minimum salary. Hayes wasn't cleared for playing yet during this time. Also reaching a deal within minutes is not something I could see possible, more than likely Houston put in an offer the night before. I think we pulled the plug because we realized he signed with Houston, it's just the announcement was a few minutes faster on our end.)
9. Hayes was cleared the next day. Hayes thought of rejoining Houston but since they signed with Dally, he had to look at other options (Minny was interested in him early and Toronto was too).
10. Hayes signed with the Kings after we raised a little $$$ more for him.
You're right that it's wrong in saying Dally doesn't want to be here....Nobody wanted to be here would be more exact.
Close, but you've excluded some things. Not really sure what the deal was with Daly money wise. I know they let him go because he had a ginormous cap hold. When the Gasol trade was being completed Houston called Hayes and begged him to hold on until after the deal was done. After the test came back Hayes himself said there was no other place he wanted to go because of how he was treated by the Kings staff during his ordeal. Now that's after the fact so who knows what really happened because what's he going to say?
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