Maloof's contributed to the problems in Sacramneto? No loyalty?

[bajaden]

Are you sure about that? It's lately been claimed that last year, four teams asked the NBA for permission to move, yet none of them moved.

I don't think anyone but the owners, and a handful of people in Stern's office. really have any idea what goes on with these things. For all I know, the Kings also applied last year.

If what you say is true, then obviously I'm not sure. But if true, then I would like to know which teams applied to move. Usually there's some sort of press that precludes a team wanting to move. Like Seattle, and now like the Kings. I doubt that there's anyone connected to basketball that doesn't know that the Kings might move. So I would find it a little strange for 4 teams to have applied and no one heard a peep in the press about it.

 

[bajaden]

While I'm not endorsing either side of the argument, they cut payroll dramatically, and even slashed coach pay, despite it being harder to get good coaches who're willing to run a weaker team. That's not "sabotage," but you'd have to be either dim or wildly overoptimistic to not get that doing so might seriously lower the quality of your product, wouldn't you?

They're not saying they're losing money, they claim that Forbes was wrong, that they actually made a few million last year. But who knows what the truth is?

I don't think the argument is about whether the quality of the product has been lowered. Its about the intention of management that resulted in the lowering the product. I'm responding to someone that thinks the Maloofs intentionaly lowered the quality of the product in order to make it easier to move the team. I'am of the opinion that the quality of the product ended up being lowered because of rebuilding the team. I did an entire thread on how teams rebuild with examples etc. and I'm not about to go over them again. As for paying the coach less money. In my opinion he's being overpaid at the moment.

Anyone thats been to the games and watched the Maloofs, knows that they're rabid fans. They want to win as bad as we do. Personally I think they had to be dragged screaming and kicking into this rebuild. It should have started earlier, but they kept looking for a way to fix the product instead of realizing that the needed an entirely new product. It doesn't work with arena's either.

 

[whozit]

While I'm not endorsing either side of the argument, they cut payroll dramatically, and even slashed coach pay, despite it being harder to get good coaches who're willing to run a weaker team. That's not "sabotage," but you'd have to be either dim or wildly overoptimistic to not get that doing so might seriously lower the quality of your product, wouldn't you?

They're not saying they're losing money, they claim that Forbes was wrong, that they actually made a few million last year. But who knows what the truth is?

.... with other parts of their business empire bleeding red, they possibly couldn't afford this part to be taking losses also. It could simply be being in a survival mode, buying time for the economy to improve and there are indications that is beginning to happen.

 

[fnordius]

Nope:

http://www.news10.net/sports/story.aspx?storyid=124710

And yet, reading that story leaves me feeling even less certain that I know what's going on.

Frank previously told May that last season, four teams filed relocation requests with the league, but no team moved during the offseason. Frank clarified that Thursday afternoon, saying no teams had filed last season to relocate.

Frank said the last team to seek approval to relocate was the Oklahoma City Thunder.

If I understand this correctly, channel 10 claims that the NBA's guy has totally changed his story, and completely contradicted things he told them a week or two ago. Is channel 10 messing up horribly, or is the NBA really changing its versions of fact from week to week? Either way, I almost feel stupider after reading it.

The NBA guy hasn't claimed, however, that applications and voting are done in public view, so there's really no way of knowing which story was the lie.

 

[bajaden]

Oh screw them if they can't take some criticism. If they were in a bigtime sports town they would be getting pummeled by the media and fans on a daily basis, not being treated with kid gloves. And they have been treated with kid gloves. They better be getting use to it cause if they continue their ways down in Anaheim the papers will skewer them and the fans will forget about them.

Well they did own a team in a larger market when they owned the Houston Rockets. And if they were in a larger market, they wouldn't be begging for a new arena. They'd already have one. Which is by the way, the bone of contention. As far criticism, they've taken plenty thanks to the Bee. What I don't get, is that they have something you want, and your response is, screw them. Is that your normal way of trying to convince someone of something? Seriously, what have they ever done to you to bring such anger toward them? They're not saints, but they're not the devil either.

Up until the economy went bad they were always willing to shell out the money for players. That was actually more of a problem than a blessing. They would have been better served keeping their money in the bank instead of who they spent it on. They've donated 30 million dollars to charities in the sacramento area. Thats not basketball related, but it ought to at least buy a little good will. So just why are you so angry? They may not be the best owners in the league, but they're the best owners the Kings have ever had in sacramento.

 

[Spike]

Oh screw them if they can't take some criticism. If they were in a bigtime sports town they would be getting pummeled by the media and fans on a daily basis, not being treated with kid gloves. And they have been treated with kid gloves. They better be getting use to it cause if they continue their ways down in Anaheim the papers will skewer them and the fans will forget about them.

You're kidding, right? The local rags have been anti-Maloof since I can remember. If the Sac Bee's reporters weren't so infantile themselves, the Maloofs wouldn't have been treated with kid gloves. I'm not sure what their end game was, but if it was running the team out of town so that we can focus on UC Davis vs. Sac State, then mission accomplished.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

You're kidding, right? The local rags have been anti-Maloof since I can remember. If the Sac Bee's reporters weren't so infantile themselves, the Maloofs wouldn't have been treated with kid gloves. I'm not sure what their end game was, but if it was running the team out of town so that we can focus on UC Davis vs. Sac State, then mission accomplished.

Were they being anti Maloof or just reporting the facts? The Maloofs did storm out of meetings, make crazy demands, etc. Was the Bee just supposed to not report that stuff?