Kobe Bryant With Same Injury As Dc...

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HE'S GOT plantar fasciitis!!!!! NOT TO BE SLACK TO HIM BUT..... YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~29583~2537500,00.html

Foot injury bothers Bryant


By Rich Hammond, Staff Writer


EL SEGUNDO -- Persistent pain in his left foot forced Kobe Bryant to be a spectator at practice Monday. Even worse for the Lakers, coach Rudy Tomjanovich didn't dismiss the idea that the ailment would force Bryant's minutes to be restricted during upcoming games.


"I don't know," Tomjanovich said. "We'll see how he feels in a couple days."

Tomjanovich had hoped Monday and today would provide the Lakers a chance to become more cohesive, since their practice time has been limited by a hectic schedule this month. But it's hard to imagine how much the Lakers can accomplish in practice with their leader watching, not playing.

Bryant, diagnosed with plantar fasciitis, a painful inflammation of the connective tissue on the bottom of the foot, averaged 39.5 minutes during last week's four-game trip. But he made just 37.5 percent of his shots from the field to fuel discussion as to whether he might need time off to rest.

Tomjanovich said he has talked extensively with Bryant and trainer Gary Vitti -- "and God," Tomjanovich jokingly interjected -- and said he would rely on their input to make decisions about Bryant's situation.

"I did take an anatomy class at the University of Michigan and I did well, but I'm not a doctor," Tomjanovich said. "I try not to think negatively about it. I ask Gary to give me a synopsis, and I asked him if I should be staying up worrying about this and he said no. So that's as far as I'm taking it."

Bryant did not speak to reporters Monday, but teammates expressed little concern. The Lakers play the Clippers on Wednesday, then play at Phoenix on Friday and play host to Chicago on Sunday.

"He's a true champion and a hell of a warrior," Lamar Odom said. "If he can compete, he'll be out there, and if he can't then we'll just have to pick up the slack. ... Even when he's hurt, I can't tell the difference, because he's so aggressive and so good at what he does."

Comeback trail: Vlade Divac, who has yet to play because of a herniated disc in his back, completed his first full-team practice Monday and reported no problems. Tomjanovich said he expects Divac to return next week, which would make the Nov. 23 game against Milwaukee a probable target date.

"That was a long time to be out, but I feel pretty good," the 36-year-old Divac said. "I'm already a step slower than everybody else, so I definitely need some time to get (conditioning) back."

Slava Medvedenko (bruised heel) also participated in the full practice and suffered no setbacks.

Moving on: Tomjanovich said he enjoyed his homecoming when the Lakers played at Houston on Saturday, but admitted the trip wore on him mentally because of the attention. The Lakers play once more at Houston, on Feb. 6, but that should be a lower-key affair for Tomjanovich.

"It was a tough situation for me, concentration-wise," Tomjanovich said. "I did get to see my son, which was great, and I did get to see my dogs, whom I really missed too, and it was a nice ceremony. "I don't have any animosity, and all I have is gratitude toward the Houston organization, so it really wasn't like, 'Boy, I really want to get these guys.' I just really wanted to get a win for this team."
 
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RaY Z said:
HE'S GOT plantar fasciitis!!!!! NOT TO BE SLACK TO HIM BUT..... YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
Not cool to be flippant about injuries, but the difference is that Kobe's was caught at an early stage.
 

VF21

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If this doesn't rip the heart out of Laker fans, I don't know what will.

Or is it simply another situation where "miracleKobe" announces an injury, and then - like the "hell of a warrior" he is - comes out and plays "through the tremendous and excruciating pain and agony" (said in my best Bill Walton voice) to lead him team to victory?

...OR is it just an excuse to explain away his abysmal shooting percentage???

Sorry, Laker fans - but I can't help but be skeptical.
 
#4
Plantar facsitis seems to effect everyone differently. It may have no real impact on him this season. I would not just assume he is going to miss a big chunk of games.
 

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Gargamel said:
Not cool to be flippant about injuries, but the difference is that Kobe's was caught at an early stage.
I think once the condition has flared to the point of being painful and inflammed it's no longer an "early stage." Remember, Peja also had this and ended up being out for a considerable amount of time...

Once again, though, that's assuming this isn't another "shoulder separation" scenario where he's gonna make a miraculous recovery after an incredibly short period of time.

:rolleyes:

The dude has priors, IMHO.
 

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I HATE THOSE STUPID COMMERCIALS!

If they're going to force Pedja to speak those horrible lines, they could at least have made it so it wasn't blatantly obvious he was reading from cue cards directly behind the other guy's shoulder...
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
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PF is nominaly treatable, but the only real treatment is rest. This presents the Lakers with a Catch 22: If the Lakers play Kobe they seriosly risk exaberating the problem and having him out or hobbled in the post season. With Kobe out for even a handfull games they are very unlikley to make the play offs.
PS I can't say I like seeing any human injured even those that only margianly meet the minimal criteria for inclusion.
 
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VF21 said:
If this doesn't rip the heart out of Laker fans, I don't know what will.

Or is it simply another situation where "miracleKobe" announces an injury, and then - like the "hell of a warrior" he is - comes out and plays "through the tremendous and excruciating pain and agony" (said in my best Bill Walton voice) to lead him team to victory?

...OR is it just an excuse to explain away his abysmal shooting percentage???

Sorry, Laker fans - but I can't help but be skeptical.
Nothing.

Yes.

Explanation, but not excuse. Don't forget too many 3 pt attempts as well.

I can't help but to be optimistic.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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I suspect a lot of players have plantar fasciitis to some degree, or at least the beginnings of it. Seems to come and go rather mysteriously. No guarantee it ever becomes serious enough to cause him to sit out.
 
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RaY Z said:
"That was a long time to be out, but I feel pretty good," the 36-year-old Divac said. "I'm already a step slower than everybody else, so I definitely need some time to get (conditioning) back."
Hasn't Vlade been a few steps slower the last few years now.

BTW I still love Vlade, I hope he recovers and is ready to play.
 
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VF21 said:
I think once the condition has flared to the point of being painful and inflammed it's no longer an "early stage."
I'm using the team's explanation via the trainer.

Remember, Peja also had this and ended up being out for a considerable amount of time...
I don't remember that, but I'm not a Kings fan, so why should I? ;)

Once again, though, that's assuming this isn't another "shoulder separation" scenario where he's gonna make a miraculous recovery after an incredibly short period of time.

:rolleyes:

The dude has priors, IMHO.
Please... It was a partial separation of a surgically-repaired shoulder. It happened while pump-faking Kedrick Brown and then he sprained it again days later in a collision between Ray Allen and Reggie Evans. There's no doubt that he got injured in those two plays. Maybe the severity of the initial injury (from the Brown incident) was exaggerated by the media, but how's that mean he's got "priors"? I guarantee you that one way or another, some players would've sat out far longer than Kobe for the same thing.
 
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Bricklayer said:
I suspect a lot of players have plantar fasciitis to some degree, or at least the beginnings of it. Seems to come and go rather mysteriously. No guarantee it ever becomes serious enough to cause him to sit out.
True, but I expect him to play less minutes in upcoming games. He's currently leading the league in mpg and that probably doesn't help his foot's cause much.
 

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Gargamel said:
Please... It was a partial separation of a surgically-repaired shoulder. It happened while pump-faking Kedrick Brown and then he sprained it again days later in a collision between Ray Allen and Reggie Evans. There's no doubt that he got injured in those two plays. Maybe the severity of the initial injury (from the Brown incident) was exaggerated by the media, but how's that mean he's got "priors"? I guarantee you that one way or another, some players would've sat out far longer than Kobe for the same thing.
Oh please right back atcha... ;)

Walton made it sound as though his arm was virtually dragging the ground, hanging on by one tendon and a couple of nerves. So did the rest of the media. One of the Laker broadcasters made it sound as though he actually had to pick his severed limb from the floor before struggling gamely to the sidelines...

I honestly think Kobe milked that for all it was worth, occasionally wincing, wearing the stupid brace, etc. Then, miraculously, one day it was completely and totally healed?

Was there an injury to begin with? Undoubtedly. Did it get blown out of all proportion? Oh yeah. Did Kobe make the most of it? I believe so...

That's what I meant by priors. It is MHO that Kobe loves to make the most of these kinds of opportunities. Am I right? I don't know. That's why it's simply my opinion...

;)
 
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ouch. the lakers could be in a world of trouble if he misses the amount of time to let it properly heel, which could take a LONG time.

it's still bothering DC and he had it in the playoffs last year. peja missed a good long time when he had it. i know wally szczerbiak missed like half of last year with it.

this should be very intresting indeed. i wonder if he'll miraculously heel like VF21 was talking about.

it should make the kings lakers game next friday intresting. oh i am SO looking foward to that, i've already made a bet with my lakers friend :D
 
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VF21 said:
Oh please right back atcha... ;)

Walton made it sound as though his arm was virtually dragging the ground, hanging on by one tendon and a couple of nerves. So did the rest of the media. One of the Laker broadcasters made it sound as though he actually had to pick his severed limb from the floor before struggling gamely to the sidelines...
That's on them.

I honestly think Kobe milked that for all it was worth, occasionally wincing, wearing the stupid brace, etc. Then, miraculously, one day it was completely and totally healed?

Was there an injury to begin with? Undoubtedly. Did it get blown out of all proportion? Oh yeah. Did Kobe make the most of it? I believe so...

That's what I meant by priors. It is MHO that Kobe loves to make the most of these kinds of opportunities. Am I right? I don't know. That's why it's simply my opinion...

;)
All I can say is maybe. I don't know for sure if the burning question in these situations is "Is he really hurt?" or "Is he really hurt that bad?". From my POV, I wouldn't fault anyone who wants to milk a partially separated shoulder. That's gotta: 1) be painful/uncomfortable, and 2) be risky. If we're talking about him milking a bad cheeseburger or tendonitis, then yeah.

Should he get praise for coming back well-before schedule? Not necessarily, but I don't think he should be criticized for it even if he is simply trying to get the glory considering that the league is full of wussies who'll sit out because of a hangnail.
 
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Evenstar said:
it should make the kings lakers game next friday intresting. oh i am SO looking foward to that, i've already made a bet with my lakers friend :D
I believe Vlade might be back in time for that one, btw.
 
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That'll be good if Vlade was back in time for the Kings game. I hope Kobe will be there too. Want to see both team at full strength. ;)


c-webb1s#1 said:
"Everybody loves good feet"


classic
That commerical is hilarious!!!!
 
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VF21 said:
If this doesn't rip the heart out of Laker fans, I don't know what will.

Or is it simply another situation where "miracleKobe" announces an injury, and then - like the "hell of a warrior" he is - comes out and plays "through the tremendous and excruciating pain and agony" (said in my best Bill Walton voice) to lead him team to victory?

...OR is it just an excuse to explain away his abysmal shooting percentage???

Sorry, Laker fans - but I can't help but be skeptical.
I can't remember of a time when an injury Kobe claimed was a legitimate injury in your eyes. Kobe always seems to have some kind of hidden agenda, at least according to your posts. Please don't get me wrong, I'm just curious. Is it just your bias as a Kings fan that somehow Kobe can't be hurt for reals?
 

Bricklayer

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Lamar_Odom said:
I can't remember of a time when an injury Kobe claimed was a legitimate injury in your eyes. Kobe always seems to have some kind of hidden agenda, at least according to your posts. Please don't get me wrong, I'm just curious. Is it just your bias as a Kings fan that somehow Kobe can't be hurt for reals?
Well its just very hard to tell if its for real or not given that poor Kobe ALWAYS has some incredibly debilitating hangnail or stubbed toe that he is magnificently and bravely struggling to overcome. What a trooper. :rolleyes:

This one, however, seems legit. ;)
 

HndsmCelt

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#23
It sounds as if people are calling the most amamzing and durable player to ever touch a ball a big ol faker. You guys would'nt do that would you?
 
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Evenstar said:
ouch. the lakers could be in a world of trouble if he misses the amount of time to let it properly heel, which could take a LONG time.

it's still bothering DC and he had it in the playoffs last year. peja missed a good long time when he had it. i know wally szczerbiak missed like half of last year with it.

this should be very intresting indeed. i wonder if he'll miraculously heel like VF21 was talking about.

it should make the kings lakers game next friday intresting. oh i am SO looking foward to that, i've already made a bet with my lakers friend
I hope Kobe can still play some minutes, and I also hope Vlade will be back next friday. Because I WILL BE THERE. The game won't be fun without them.

Talk about bets ... my brother also has made a bet on that game with his Lakers friends. My brother is Lakers fan, but he's also smart. So far in this season, he had won all 3 bets and made some money. He just bet Lakers would lose to San Antonio, Memphis, and another team.
And this time, he bet Kings is going to win.
 
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My brother is Lakers fan, but he's also smart. So far in this season, he had won all 3 bets and made some money. He just bet Lakers would lose to San Antonio, Memphis, and another team. And this time, he bet Kings is going to win.
Cokebee, tell your brother we all said "Thanks" :cool:
 

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Lamar_Odom said:
I can't remember of a time when an injury Kobe claimed was a legitimate injury in your eyes. Kobe always seems to have some kind of hidden agenda, at least according to your posts. Please don't get me wrong, I'm just curious. Is it just your bias as a Kings fan that somehow Kobe can't be hurt for reals?
If you could read the old threads from BTC, you'd know that I have often talked about Kobe's abilities on the court, his talents, his drive, etc. I give him credit for what I feel are his attributes. On the other hand, I think he's a bit of a hypochondriac - or baby (take your pick).

I agree with Bricklayer in that Kobe's injuries (perhaps through no fault of his) are almost always presented as being catastrophic in nature, and the anticipated recovery time is always excessively longer than it actually takes.

I don't really know why, but I don't buy it. He just strikes me as being a drama queen (forgive the use of "queen" in reference to Kobe, instead of one of my team's players). ;) He wants to make sure everyone knows how brave he is and how valiant his effort to overcome such severe, nearly mortal wounds.

Blech...

On the other hand, it could be just because he's a Laker and I'm a Kings fan.

;)
 
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VF21 said:
If you could read the old threads from BTC, you'd know that I have often talked about Kobe's abilities on the court, his talents, his drive, etc. I give him credit for what I feel are his attributes. On the other hand, I think he's a bit of a hypochondriac - or baby (take your pick).

I agree with Bricklayer in that Kobe's injuries (perhaps through no fault of his) are almost always presented as being catastrophic in nature, and the anticipated recovery time is always excessively longer than it actually takes.

I don't really know why, but I don't buy it. He just strikes me as being a drama queen (forgive the use of "queen" in reference to Kobe, instead of one of my team's players). ;) He wants to make sure everyone knows how brave he is and how valiant his effort to overcome such severe, nearly mortal wounds.

Blech...

On the other hand, it could be just because he's a Laker and I'm a Kings fan.

;)
How much of this is really the work of the media? The main reason about this "reputation" is because he's Kobe Bryant. Nobody cares about how heroic Gerald Wallace is after or during an injury.

I'm more inclined to believe that it's your last sentence. That makes more sense. ;)
 
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I think Kobe has a high pain threshold (how eles could he endure both Shaq and PJ), so he recovers fast and plays through pain. As a Laker fan, I appreciate that. However, he also probably plays when he souldn't. Each case of PF is unique, I wouldn't be suprised to see Kobe not miss any games and play when some others would sit out.