Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!
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I’m wondering if we could acquire one of Dorian Finney-Smith, Andrew Wigggins, or DeAndre Hunter without surrendering any 1st round picks (considering their contracts). That might be a good way for us to upgrade our roster for next season since we’d be adding some length, athleticism, and defense at forward while at the same time keeping our assets for a bigger trade down the road.
Mostly college. It's hard to judge a player when they are on such a bad defensive team. It's like with Davion, look at the numbers and dude is literally one of the worst defenders on the team according to the ratings. Hunter should be a target because of the potential payoff in talent. That's the gamble.
Obviously it wasn't a great recipe for success in Indiana beside Myles. If it could be made to work in other contexts then I don't see why not. I think the biggest concern would be having two players on the floor who can't guard on the perimeter (Domas + whoever is at C) and just getting repeatedly burned. Offensively, it seems like Turner would have been an ideal match but both guys skyrocketed in ORtg after the split, so I don't know what to think on that side of the floor.
I agree with that - to an extent. But if you had a mobile big that could pass next to Sabonis - like Allen or Evan Mobley or Chet or Porzingis or Jonathan Isaac - I think the 4 versus 5 distinction is less clear. Sabonis would still be a playmaker with the ball, could post up mismatches but would have to shoot some more outside shots. On defense he would still guard the strongest big.
The center position is supposed to be the anchor of your defense and Domas can't anchor a defense. As long as we don't have a viable anchor for the defense and some rim protection, it would be difficult for the Kings to ever become title contenders. Whether Domas is a 4 or 5 doesn't matter as much as getting someone that can anchor the defense opposite Domas.
Finding that big opposite Domas becomes a whole heck of a lot easier if Domas would just start shooting a few more 3s, which we know he is capable of hitting at a decent percentage. If the coaches can convince him to let it fly 3 to 4 3s per game, the Kings chance to fill that 4 or 5 with a defensive stud, becomes a whole lot easier. Domas averaged 2.9 3s his last year in Indiana, so we know he can let if fly if he wants to.
Finding that big opposite Domas becomes a whole heck of a lot easier if Domas would just start shooting a few more 3s, which we know he is capable of hitting at a decent percentage. If the coaches can convince him to let it fly 3 to 4 3s per game, the Kings chance to fill that 4 or 5 with a defensive stud, becomes a whole lot easier. Domas averaged 2.9 3s his last year in Indiana, so we know he can let if fly if he wants to.
Well, that just is what it is and that's the path Monte McNair chose so he can't sidestep it now with things that will potentially sink ANY chances moving forward. And tell that to Jokic and the Denver Nuggets. Unless Fox becomes Curry a Domas and non shooting big frontcourt is so obviously a recipe for disaster that I'm not buying any of this Capela, Allen, whoever talk.
I get what you’re saying but Allen is worlds apart from Javale haha. He’s one of the better defensive bigs in the game. He’s not quite Evan Mobley defending in space but he’s pretty solid switching down and on offense he’s pretty good at making quick reads and finding creases in defenses going downhill
I think Sabonis next to Isaac, Prozingis or maybe even Mobley would be fine but I don't see it working with Allen. Sabonis will get roasted chasing around wings. On the other end of the court, the opposing 5 will just switch and guard Sabonis while the 4 guards Allen. Allen isn't much of an offensive threat so not only do I see our defense either being relatively the same or maybe even worse, but I see the offense being much worse. It would work better if the new guy next to Sabonis was either really switchable or could punish smaller players on the other end of the court. I don't see Allen doing either of those things.
I thought the Kings defense was solid at the end of the year but the shooting woes really killed them. They shot extremely poorly in most of those losses to end the year, despite the defense looking a lot better with Ellis out there. I think average defending shooters would be a much better addition than a big next to Domas. I mean Len plays a lot like Allen but there's a good reason why Brown didn't run those two guys together.
The offense is primarily ran through Domas. I think the player next to him needs to be able to shoot 3s since Domas is the one facilitating. He's not going to be the one doing the majority of the catching and shooting if he's the one distributing the ball.
I thought the Kings defense was solid at the end of the year but the shooting woes really killed them. They shot extremely poorly in most of those losses to end the year, despite the defense looking a lot better with Ellis out there. I think average defending shooters would be a much better addition than a big next to Domas. I mean Len plays a lot like Allen but there's a good reason why Brown didn't run those two guys together.
The offense is primarily ran through Domas. I think the player next to him needs to be able to shoot 3s since Domas is the one facilitating. He's not going to be the one doing the majority of the catching and shooting if he's the one distributing the ball.
Oof. what???? High end McGee?
JA rules and is so so so much more than just a dunker spot big. Really took a leap as a passer this year and has developed into a 2-way stud.
Assuming doesn't cost you Keegan, I'd be in, willing to try this. At the very least, Domas-JA is super fun to theory craft about how to work 2 super skilled bigs that can pass play together (but weak spacers)
JA rules and is so so so much more than just a dunker spot big. Really took a leap as a passer this year and has developed into a 2-way stud.
Assuming doesn't cost you Keegan, I'd be in, willing to try this. At the very least, Domas-JA is super fun to theory craft about how to work 2 super skilled bigs that can pass play together (but weak spacers)
I'd be much more worried about the offense. Then you'd still have Domas out there guarding up so, eh. I'm OK with an experiment but lets say they re-sign Monk and he starts when you never even tested that out in the last 2 years, then you start Domas next to a big when that's another thing Brown NEVER DID except maybe for like one play? It could work but man, do your intel before you invest that kind of money in it. Why not try it the last two years and play him next to Len or McGee and see?
does he really? I think he just needs to shoot more period, mid-range and post would be preferable but he isn't that coordinated in the post, way too stiff and tries to shoulder everyone when that doesn't work and so coach Brown needs to encourage him to be more aggressive offensively to take some weight off of Fox, Murray and Monk (should he return)
Yeah, Domas shows major potential in that old school Webber/Brad Miller elbow area. The one major thing that drove Monte towards Domas was his efficiency. In looking at the shot chart for Domas, with the up top straightaway 3 he actually shot 50% last season. Pretty great. Everywhere else it was low frequency and/or below average. The test would be all about what the defense does to Fox and Domas in the paint if they run zone. As it is the Kings struggle against the zone frequently and that's with shooting usually being stacked around the two stars. Put a non spread big next to those two and for those clamouring for higher percentage shots at the rim get ready, it could get ugly. The time to test Domas at the 4 was sometime last season. Now you'd just be gambling. It could work great, but if it didn't how do you fix it? Use Allen as a 14 mpg backup? There are certainly upsides but the homework is already late when it comes to that so the downside is too risky. Now, getting a younger dump off big is possible. They have plenty of those types scouring the G-league that won't cost you trade assets, 40 million, and a looming re-signing like Allen would.
I saw that and I like the idea of him but when you look at his stats, he seems to be a negative value player and a really bad defender. As a big on the Pistons, he should have had some of the better defensive impact numbers since those numbers seem to favor bigs. He was actually in the bottom half of the Pistons players. The player that sat at the top? Metu.