Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!

#32
I'm in camp OG but the question is... where does he want to play next season? He holds all the cards with a player option. Toronto can technically trade him wherever they want but realistically, how much is a team going to offer for a 5 month rental? I think the most likely outcome is that money talks -- Toronto will keep him and max him in the off-season like Boston did with Jaylen Brown and they'll be handcuffed together for better or worse. There were some rumblings last season that OG was unhappy with his role though and they are currently hovering around the 10 seed so those of us hoping to pry him loose should probably be rooting for lots of ugly Raptors losses to poison the waters.
OG getting the max is comedy
 

Tetsujin

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#38
A little off topic but it’s still pretty odd that the team with 3 guys who have had or will get max contracts on it can’t seem to get to .500. (Siakam, OG, Barnes) they had another guy with them last year who basically got a 2 year max with another team.
It’s because they have a team full of really good third option guys masquerading as first options. Barnes and OG haven’t shown themselves to be true all-star level players to this point in their careers and Siakam would ideally never really be the first option on a playoff team. The post-Kawhi team that made the postseason pretty much only did so because Kyle Lowry was still on their roster and still young enough to sorta play that role for them as a lead guard and sorta tricked Masai into thinking they were closer to being good than they actually were and now that roster has a lot of really interesting pieces but not really a cohesive team.
 
#39
A lot of the same reports out there that the Kings will be aggressive pursuing another star, but so far LaVine is the only player I’ve seen that says he’d welcome a trade to Sacramento. Also no indication that Toronto will entertain trades.
What im saying is as much as Id love OG or Siakam, hard to get too excited right now and not interested if Murray or Monk are trade pieces.
If LaVine could be had for any combination of Huerter, Barnes, Mitchell and draft compensations, im interested. I always liked him and would think Brown and staff could improve defensive shortcoming. His contract may be a concern and it could impact Monk resigning if he wants starter status, but thats nothing I know about.
 
#40
A lot of the same reports out there that the Kings will be aggressive pursuing another star, but so far LaVine is the only player I’ve seen that says he’d welcome a trade to Sacramento. Also no indication that Toronto will entertain trades.
What im saying is as much as Id love OG or Siakam, hard to get too excited right now and not interested if Murray or Monk are trade pieces.
If LaVine could be had for any combination of Huerter, Barnes, Mitchell and draft compensations, im interested. I always liked him and would think Brown and staff could improve defensive shortcoming. His contract may be a concern and it could impact Monk resigning if he wants starter status, but thats nothing I know about.
Levine makes no sense when you try to match his salary in trades.
 

hrdboild

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#41
A lot of the same reports out there that the Kings will be aggressive pursuing another star, but so far LaVine is the only player I’ve seen that says he’d welcome a trade to Sacramento. Also no indication that Toronto will entertain trades.
What im saying is as much as Id love OG or Siakam, hard to get too excited right now and not interested if Murray or Monk are trade pieces.
If LaVine could be had for any combination of Huerter, Barnes, Mitchell and draft compensations, im interested. I always liked him and would think Brown and staff could improve defensive shortcoming. His contract may be a concern and it could impact Monk resigning if he wants starter status, but thats nothing I know about.
I think trading Huerter for LaVine would be a mistake. LaVine is making $43 million a year scaling up to almost $50 million a year and is he that much better? That move alone would throw us into the same boat as Phoenix with too many scorers, not enough defense, and no salary flexibility left to fix anything.
 
#42
seems Monte has done a terrific job of keeping salaries in check. Many teams have bought into dishin out such exorbitant contracts that getting that sought after piece is crippling. OG who is an apparent great fit here will have a hefty price tag come free agency.
 
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#45
It’s because they have a team full of really good third option guys masquerading as first options. Barnes and OG haven’t shown themselves to be true all-star level players to this point in their careers and Siakam would ideally never really be the first option on a playoff team. The post-Kawhi team that made the postseason pretty much only did so because Kyle Lowry was still on their roster and still young enough to sorta play that role for them as a lead guard and sorta tricked Masai into thinking they were closer to being good than they actually were and now that roster has a lot of really interesting pieces but not really a cohesive team.
The Raptors should be prioritizing a build around Scottie. The Kings are the template in what not to do when it comes to being stuck in the middle. As soon as the Kings moved Fox back to PG and built a team around him we are seeing the results. Scottie could be the real deal with a similar team to the Kings built around him.
 
#47
I personally think he is a bit low on the trade assets we would have to send back but he makes solid arguments and has a good working knowledge of the Kings and their process.

 
#49
We gotta do the hueter and Barnes for siakam trade.
fox/mitchell/ellis
Duarte/monk/jones
Murray/sasha/edwards
Siakam/lyles
Domas/mcgee/len

maybe next year jones takes duartes spot. It’s risky
 
#50
We gotta do the hueter and Barnes for siakam trade.
fox/mitchell/ellis
Duarte/monk/jones
Murray/sasha/edwards
Siakam/lyles
Domas/mcgee/len

maybe next year jones takes duartes spot. It’s risky
People crack me up. They constantly bash Huerter and HB alive in the game threads, but then throw out the "Huerter+HB for All-star!" trades.

So which is it? Do they suck? Or are they good enough components to bring back an all-star? Can't be both.
 
#51
People crack me up. They constantly bash Huerter and HB alive in the game threads, but then throw out the "Huerter+HB for All-star!" trades.

So which is it? Do they suck? Or are they good enough components to bring back an all-star? Can't be both.
Perhaps they are inconsistent.
 
#52
People crack me up. They constantly bash Huerter and HB alive in the game threads, but then throw out the "Huerter+HB for All-star!" trades.

So which is it? Do they suck? Or are they good enough components to bring back an all-star? Can't be both.
I don’t know. I’m not the “people” you speak of
 

Kingz19

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#54
I think if we make a trade Malik is the likely piece being moved.
I couldn’t see him being a center piece of any deal from a value standpoint since he’s expiring. The Kings wouldn’t move him as a “make the salaries work” throw in if they were looking to improve.

Teams will want picks, prospects, and cap relief if we’re dealing with sellers at the trade deadline. Like Chicago or potentially Toronto.

Or unless you’re predicting the Kings will be sellers at the deadline which I guess is always a possibility and increases the chances of Monk being traded.

I could only see him being an add in to make salaries work but that would be a pretty large throw in so we would have to be talking about a pretty big name or a scenario where we are dealing with a team in the same situation.
 
#55
Guys ,
Some rumour that we want to include Sasha in trade for Lavine is circulating around the sport sites in Bulgaria , doesn’t you think that this is a bit too much … we haven’t seen even 15% of what he is capable of so far in the season , plus not that much time spent on court with the main players (fox, Domas , Murray ) and just two months with the team in total ?
From what i have seen so far (and last few year with Sasha) he is not worst (for me even better) then Huerter and HB which are both with status of untouchable at the moment …
(Have to say that when he is “in the zone” the red velvet is just nice to watch )
 
#56
Guys ,
Some rumour that we want to include Sasha in trade for Lavine is circulating around the sport sites in Bulgaria , doesn’t you think that this is a bit too much … we haven’t seen even 15% of what he is capable of so far in the season , plus not that much time spent on court with the main players (fox, Domas , Murray ) and just two months with the team in total ?
From what i have seen so far (and last few year with Sasha) he is not worst (for me even better) then Huerter and HB which are both with status of untouchable at the moment …
(Have to say that when he is “in the zone” the red velvet is just nice to watch )
Honestly I don't see anything in Sasha that we would keep him over getting an all star player. He would be a salary filler instead of a useful piece in a trade package at the moment. The Euro MVP doesn't have a appeal to other NBA teams. He is no Luka Doncic.

I don't think we will trade for Lavine either. His salary and his position doesn't suit our need.
 
#57
I think we just got to go get Anunoby. I’m not really seeing another route to find that perfect fit at PF next to Sabonis who is young enough to grow with our core.

Fox-Huerter-Murray-Anunoby-Sabonis are all between 23 and 27 years old. Then you have Monk (25), Lyles (28), Sasha (28), Duarte (26), and Jones (21) who are all within that same window. Let that team simmer for a few years, grow together, and hopefully become contenders.

I think the rotation/minute distribution looks really solid/balanced too…

PG - Fox (34) / Monk (14)
SG - Huerter (24) / Monk (14) / Duarte (10)
SF - Murray (32) / Sasha (16)
PF - Anunoby (32) / Lyles (16)
C - Sabonis (34) / Lyles (6) / Len (8)

Fox = 34 min
Sabonis = 34 min
Murray = 32 min
Anunoby = 32 min
Huerter = 28 min
Monk = 28 min
Lyles = 22 min
Sasha = 16 min
Duarte = 10 min
Len = 8 min
 
#58
I want Caruso as back up PG. Move Monk to starter. Play whatever wing off the bench for O(Hueter) or D(Keon or Kessler?)

Not sure what gets that done or who I am trading. HB, Davion, Huerter are out there, for me.
 
#59
I think we just got to go get Anunoby. I’m not really seeing another route to find that perfect fit at PF next to Sabonis who is young enough to grow with our core.

Fox-Huerter-Murray-Anunoby-Sabonis are all between 23 and 27 years old. Then you have Monk (25), Lyles (28), Sasha (28), Duarte (26), and Jones (21) who are all within that same window. Let that team simmer for a few years, grow together, and hopefully become contenders.

I think the rotation/minute distribution looks really solid/balanced too…

PG - Fox (34) / Monk (14)
SG - Huerter (24) / Monk (14) / Duarte (10)
SF - Murray (32) / Sasha (16)
PF - Anunoby (32) / Lyles (16)
C - Sabonis (34) / Lyles (6) / Len (8)

Fox = 34 min
Sabonis = 34 min
Murray = 32 min
Anunoby = 32 min
Huerter = 28 min
Monk = 28 min
Lyles = 22 min
Sasha = 16 min
Duarte = 10 min
Len = 8 min
What do we give up for him?

According to last year’s rumors,
It's unclear exactly what the asking price is for Toronto's 25-year-old 3-and-D forward but the team previously turned down three first-round picks for Anunoby, according to the Toronto Star's Bruce Arthur. League sources reportedly believe the Raptors are looking for two promising players on team-friendly contracts and at least one draft pick, per Doug Smith of the Toronto Star.

Multiple teams have inquired about Anunoby's availability dating back to the offseason when the Portland Trail Blazers offered Toronto multiple draft picks for the forward. Toronto was unwilling to part ways with Anunoby at the time and his value is believed to have gone up on the heels of an All-Defense-type season so far.

https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news...fer-of-three-first-round-picks-for-og-anunoby
The Raptors turned down two 1st round picks for him AND three 1st round picks. They apparently want two promising players on team friendly deals + 1 draft pick.

Without giving up Keegan, the only thing I can think of is maybe Huerter, Davion, Colby, and two 1st round picks, but I don’t even think that’s enough. Huerter is young, but he an NBA vet. Davion is older and has struggled getting minutes for us this year. Colby is a young rookie, but his value is only high to the Kings and he doesn’t have real NBA production to back it up.

Our trade package would be 1 starter, fringe backup PG, and a 2nd round rookie. Not sure that’s enough for Toronto to bite even when the two first round picks attached. You might need two years of pick swaps too.

Either you want Keegan or you want OG. I don’t see the Raptors changing their stance. Masai is stubborn and would rather let OG walk in FA if it means teams don’t meet his demands.
 
#60
I want Caruso as back up PG. Move Monk to starter. Play whatever wing off the bench for O(Hueter) or D(Keon or Kessler?)

Not sure what gets that done or who I am trading. HB, Davion, Huerter are out there, for me.
I think I would trade Colby + 1st for Caruso. Likely add in Sasha to balance out the salaries