Kings Should Forget About Defense

Purple Reign

Purple Reign

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It seems that all we fans and the media and the pundits focus on with this team is defense. We all know that defense wins championships. Well the Kings are not in any postion to win a championship in 2005-06. So they need to focus and fix first what they do best. Score the basketball.

I have never seen this team play as poorly on the offensive side of the ball as they did tonight. Forget about the defense for a moment. Because this team's defense is predicated on their offensive execution. And if they execute as poor as they did tonight, there will be no reason to play defense. It is all up to "The Big Three" - Bibby, Stojakovic and Miller. And none of them played well especially Miller and Bibby. It is the offense that fills Arco every night. It is the offense that grabs the community's attention. It is the offense that builds this franchise's identity. FIX IT PLEASE!!!

Where is the cutting, where is the back door sliding to the basket. Where is the outside shot. FIX THE OFFENSE PLEASE!!! And once they find themselves with the ball in their hands, they will find themselves on the defensive end.

I refuse to live on the roller coaster this season.
 
Purple Reign said:
I refuse to live on the roller coaster this season.
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Tough to say when you're already on it...

I'm not sure what to say about this post either...except that I don't agree with it completely. Defense is an essential part of the game...probably the single thing that has kept us from contending for a championship in the last few years. You can't just "give up" on it.

I will agree, however, that our offense was atrocious tonight. I'm trusting that will come around once people start to anticipate where their teammates will be at any given moment. That will come in time.
 
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It isn't about offense OR defense at this point.

It's about being a team, and not just a bunch of guys wearing the same uniform. The Kings are NOT a team. They don't have any of the qualities that make a team. Our main prayer should be that they find those qualities...and quickly.
 
I firmlt believe that the King's offense is based on a knowledge of each other. We are LACKING in that completely right now. I also think that it WILL come with time. The problem arises with HOW MUCH time it is going to take. Watching the game, I though our defense was actually better than I expected. As stated earlier our offense was terrible. That is why I was bothered by the preseason - not the winning or losing, but with the lack of cohesive playing time on the court by our starters. Hold on because there will be lots of ups and downs this year.

Sorry to tell you Purple Reign but this year's roller coaster will make last year look like a ride at the kiddie park.
 
D-Mass said:
Tough to say when you're already on it...

I'm not sure what to say about this post either...except that I don't agree with it. Defense is an essential part of the game...probably the single thing that has kept us from contending for a championship in the last few years. You can't just "give up" on it.
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then we could end up less than 50 wins, you can't just give 110% on O & D simultaneously.
 
Uh...this may come as a bit of a surprise, but there are entire rabid fanbases who consider offense the thing you do between defensive possessions.

The offense badly needs to be fixed, but that's got nothing to do with defense and everything to do with too many guys used to shooting who are unfamiliar with each other and the system.
 
sono said:
then we could end up less than 50 wins, you can't just give 110% on O & D simultaneously.
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Then you give 110% on defense. At least if you ever want to be more than a speedbump for the actual competitive teams.

And that statement is not true anyway. MANY of the great championship teams have been great on both sides of the ball. We were great on both sides of he ball ourselves back when we mattered.
 
I do not think you have to have one or the other. You need both. All teams are STRONGER on one end, but championship teams are skilled at both. The key word for me is TEAM. We have to find that again.
 
who here doesnt miss house right now? needed outside shooting and thats what he offers, bobby would have been nice as well...
 
D-Mass said:
Tough to say when you're already on it...

I'm not sure what to say about this post either...except that I don't agree with it completely. Defense is an essential part of the game...probably the single thing that has kept us from contending for a championship in the last few years. You can't just "give up" on it.

I will agree, however, that our offense was atrocious tonight. I'm trusting that will come around once people start to anticipate where their teammates will be at any given moment. That will come in time.
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I'll tell you what to make of this post. That to stay afloat until the Kings become a team, they have to learn how to pass the ball to one another.

What makes you say that I am on the roller coaster? You think that I have given up? I haven't. What I am trying to say is that before they can fix their defense, which they have been trying to do since 1999, they should try to fix what is in my opinion the heart and soul of this team that is currently non existant. "The Kings Offense". 13 assist, 18 turnovers on offense, they forced 20 turnovers on defense. Which is the statistic that is the most alarming.

Just listening to us fans on the radio and reading this board gives me a freakin headache, I am going to bed!!

Where are the Monarch Fans when you need them.
 
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Purple Reign said:
I'll tell you what to make of this post. That to stay afloat until the Kings become a team, they have to learn how to pass the ball to one another.

What makes you say that I am on the roller coaster? You think that I have given up? I haven't. What I am trying to say is that before they can fix their defense, which they have been trying to do since 1999, they should try to fix what is in my opinion the heart and soul of this team that is currently non existant. "The Kings Offense". 13 assist, 18 turnovers on offense, they forced 20 turnovers on defense. Which is the statistic that is the most alarming.

Just listening to us fans on the radio and reading this board gives me a freakin headache, I am going to bed!!

Where are the Monarch Fans when you need them.
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I think you're missing a point...

I and several others have used a roller coaster analogy frequently to describe how this season may well be for Kings fans. So, when he said you were already on the ride, he didn't mean in any way that you had given up.

Sleep well.
 
VF21 said:
I think you're missing a point...

I and several others have used a roller coaster analogy frequently to describe how this season may well be for Kings fans. So, when he said you were already on the ride, he didn't mean in any way that you had given up.

Sleep well.
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Thank you! I thought I was clear in what I meant.
 
Purple Reign said:
I'll tell you what to make of this post. That to stay afloat until the Kings become a team, they have to learn how to pass the ball to one another.

What makes you say that I am on the roller coaster? You think that I have given up? I haven't. What I am trying to say is that before they can fix their defense, which they have been trying to do since 1999, they should try to fix what is in my opinion the heart and soul of this team that is currently non existant. "The Kings Offense". 13 assist, 18 turnovers on offense, they forced 20 turnovers on defense. Which is the statistic that is the most alarming.

Just listening to us fans on the radio and reading this board gives me a freakin headache, I am going to bed!!

Where are the Monarch Fans when you need them.
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OK...see VF's post to understand the roller coaster thing.

As for the last sentence, I'm in a quandry...I'm a Monarchs fan, too...:confused:
 
Purple Reign said:
It seems that all we fans and the media and the pundits focus on with this team is defense. We all know that defense wins championships. Well the Kings are not in any postion to win a championship in 2005-06. So they need to focus and fix first what they do best. Score the basketball.
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giving up after game 1? i find that sad......
 
Fillmoe said:
giving up after game 1? i find that sad......
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He didn't say he was giving up. In fact, he specifically said he wasn't giving up. What he said was that the Kings are not in any position to win a championship. They're not. The team we saw tonight would be lucky to win 20 games, let alone be around for the playoffs...
 
Bricklayer said:
Uh...this may come as a bit of a surprise, but there are entire rabid fanbases who consider offense the thing you do between defensive possessions.
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This made me laugh out loud, for some reason...
 
if you have to worry about defense against the hornets then you deserve to lose.... you shouldnt need to stop the worst team in the league...
 
I'm so sick of hearing about the "Big 3". Throughout the preseason and one game into the regular season - the only one of the "Big 3" that's played decently is Brad Miller.

It's time to quit thinking in the mentality that it's the "Big 3" and everyone else. Shareef is easily every bit as talented as any of the "Big 3" ... and he's completely voided in the offense. Bonzi is a great player who is getting more touches.

Peja is playing for something other than this team. He's all but said he wants to be a Laker. He wants the max. He all but said he isn't going to be any different than he was prior and isn't working on anything. Great. Awesome. So, there's one guy playing for HIMSELF.

Bibby can't direct a bowl of soup. He's never been good at it, but it's been masked by Vlade and Webber. Throughout the preseason, any type of token pressure has him dishing the ball off early or taking 15 seconds to cross the halfcourt line. I mean, last night Brad Miller brought the ball up. Ridiculous. This is our "leader". Our "floor general". Defense is about effort - and I remember his preseason quote: "No one can guard people one-on-one in this league" .... we'll that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

It's time for RA to realize that things need to change and the whole style of play needs to adapt to the cast he now has.
 
Any time we play a team with quick guards(which is pretty much the entire NBA but us) our defense will be horrible. Bibby probably couldn't guard me out on the floor and this kills our entire defensive "strategy" because everyone needs to help him.
 
Ryle said:
Any time we play a team with quick guards(which is pretty much the entire NBA but us) our defense will be horrible. Bibby probably couldn't guard me out on the floor and this kills our entire defensive "strategy" because everyone needs to help him.
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Bibby's defensive liability could be masked if you had a shot blocker or intimidator on the front line. Unfortunately, Skinner is the only guy who plays that role(to a certain extent) and he comes off the bench. Brad is arguably the least athletic C in the Western Conference and it's just a bad combination defensively.
 
G_M said:
Bibby's defensive liability could be masked if you had a shot blocker or intimidator on the front line. Unfortunately, Skinner is the only guy who plays that role(to a certain extent) and he comes off the bench. Brad is arguably the least athletic C in the Western Conference and it's just a bad combination defensively.
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Exactly, which is why I expect some trades before the trade deadline, perhaps involving one or more of our core players. We have a great deal of talent, but they are not matched well together. Our lack of athleticism will hurt us all year.
 
I was listening to Good Day Sacramento this morning of Channel 31. They had Robin Leech broadcasting a fluff piece from Las Vegas, Nevada. He talked about the $5,000 hamburger at so-and-sos place, the $22,000 bottle of Champagne (with diamonds) at another place, yada, yada, yada. Then he said something interesting.

Robin Leech said that he thought the Kings would win the NBA Championship this year. Yeah, like he knows anything about basketball. Anyway, the Channel 31 commentators tried not to laugh out loud. Then, one of them said, "Not if they play like last night!" Leech then explained that the Maloofs had thrown a huge Halloween party at the Palms Hotel's "$100,000/night basketball suite". Leech said that the Kings partied all night long!

Hmmmm. Leech is a fat, pompous, dwebe, but could he have divulged an important piece of here-to-fore unknown information. Did our hometown basketball clowns party all night assuming that they would roll over the lowly New Orleans Hornets? Did our boys get their due? :(
 
If the Kings lose tonight against Houston, they could easily go into a funk and start the season 0-7. Look at the schedule. It is a very tough way to start a season....
 
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