Kings notes: Thomas speaks up, for starters

GET OVER IT!! Jeez guys. It seems like you just NEED something to argue over. How can a simple answer of "NO" get turned into this?
 
Daniela said:
GET OVER IT!! Jeez guys. It seems like you just NEED something to argue over. How can a simple answer of "NO" get turned into this?
I dont like when athletes use their mouth to butt into the coach's bussiness. If you don't like my objecting to it and the ensuing discussion, simply do not respond.
 
I don't remeber Hedo having a mini-internet lynch mob forming up after he vocalized desires for a starting spot while he was a King.
 
I would guess that the reaction was actually harsher than this. This is just a few people saying they'd rather see Thomas answer the question differently. "mini-internet lynch mob" is a huge exaggeration - reread the thread.
 
Ok, this time without any humor or hyperbole mixed in for kicks:
Nobody was "rasing little red flags" or showing concern for team chemistry or whatever back when Hedo was saying (in more than one word, more than one time) that he would like to be a starter.

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I think we've hit a dull, uneventful or depressing time in Kingsland when this is even an issue of concern, that we have a guy who would prefer to be out on the floor to start games and (presumably) be out on the floor for more minutes and that people are saying he should take it up with the coach instead of the media. He's been here how long? And you think he and Rick haven't shared their feelings on it, that he's not going to tell a player's coach... his coach, that he'd prefer to start? But he's going to wait for Joe Nobody from the Sacramento Bee to ask him about.
 
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Hahahahaha!! Which one of you knows Kenny Thomas well enough to be able to say what he meant by his, "No" answer? Apparently several of us know. :p And, there were several people who agreed that this is not that big of a deal, yet we are now on page 3.

It is something to talk about on an off-day. Nothing more. Kenny may not have responded in the way you thought best, but let's not hang him for it.

It's a game. This is a sports board about that game. Nothing more or less. "GET OVER IT" is a little much, but then so is, "If you don't like it..."

Relax folks. Remember, we love it here and we love the Kings. No need for anyone to be defensive or to go into Attack mode.
 
Diehard Jim said:
I don't take it as whining, I take it as he wants to start!

The best player at the position is usually the one starting. To me having a player that wants to start and is not satisfied with not starting shows he wants to prove he is the best at his position.

They asked him a question and he awnsered it, when is that considered whining?

No if he brought it up I would say he is a whiner, but this guy has the ability to put up the same numbers that chris was putting up (except the assists and # of shots) with less focus on him in the offense.

I would rather see adleman starting kenny and bringing in songalia, but that is just me.

The numbers tell an interesting story, plus he is comfortable as a starter. Starting him may be a good idea.

I kind of a like having more vocal guys like Cat and Kenny on the team. Of course if he starts to really whine about it, which he has been known to do from time to time, he should take Ostertags spot as our new 12th man.
 
Hey he feels more comfortable starting. DUH!!! Coming off the bench is a completely different thing from what I have heard players say. If a guy is used to starting he can and often does have a harder time adjusting to coming off the bench.
 
Bricklayer said:
Yeah right. KT, little known 20-10 player in the NBA.:rolleyes:

Should be starting though. Just should not, especially now, be making any fuss about it. Not sure how you can be a journeyman, come to a team of our caliber, and immediately be upset that you're not a starter. I did not mind him answering the question, but it did raise an eyebrow for me -- in the current chaotic situation for ANYBODY to say ANYTHING just seemed odd.

That's exactly how I read it. I hope KT isn't another head-case.
 
The guy deserves to start, he wants to start, which meens he wants to help the team more, which meens we are better off starting Thomas as soon as we can.
 
DeAtHrOw said:
I am sorry guys I just don't see his response as whining. Sure maybe he could have gave a more "politically correct" answer, however we must remember Kenny is a basketball player not a politician. We are reading way too much into this.

Exactly, he gave his opinion on the answer that someone asked him, he wasn't whining, just simply stating what he thinks, which is good.
 
It'd be more of a problem if they asked the question and he said "no comment" or "next question". It's something that comes up, you can't avoid it. Rick even talked about it a few days ago.
 
How about this. If i am an owner or coach of a team and anybody on my team is asked if they would like to start and they say NO. Well i don't want that person on my team. If you don't think yourself that you are good enough to be a starter then that makes me question your heart and desire to be on the team. I would hope that if asked MO Evans would say the same thing.
 
Entity said:
How about this. If i am an owner or coach of a team and anybody on my team is asked if they would like to start and they say NO. Well i don't want that person on my team. If you don't think yourself that you are good enough to be a starter then that makes me question your heart and desire to be on the team. I would hope that if asked MO Evans would say the same thing.

Actually that's not entirely true -- any succssful team needs lots of guys who accept their roles, whatever it may be. If everybody wants to start, you become the JailBlazers -- team full of too many infighting players looking out for their own asses and thinking they are better than they are.

But in any case, this is SUCH a minor little thing at this point, and its all about the nuance. He could have said it with a smile, with a scowl, the exact question could have been asked a dozen different ways -- who knows? "Do you want to start? -- YES" is generally fine, especially in a guy who probably is the best option at the moment (would rather have Skinner when everybody is healthy). "Are you happy not starting? -- NO" is a little different, more negative spin. Not really important unless the player continues not to start, and it festers. The little half eyebrow raise is just because its surprising to see ANY of the new guys making a peep like that in a playoff stretch drive for a scrambling team that just rescued them from basketball hell 3 weeks ago. Would think "I'm just happy to be playing for a playoff team and want to do whatever I can to help"s would be the order of the day. Not worrying about your minutes or starts. Hell, the glue is barely dry on the names on the back of their jerseys.
 
I don't think it's wrong for KT to want to have a starting role, but this is something that should have been said solely between himself and Rick, not in the papers.

Thank God that Darius is such a great team player that he's not making a big scene out of this.
 
stojakapimp said:
I don't think it's wrong for KT to want to have a starting role, but this is something that should have been said solely between himself and Rick, not in the papers.

Well, of course in this case somebody had to ask him first before he could answer -- not even sure who would ask such a silly question for starters.
 
Thomas was asked a loaded(?) question and answered. There is no indication that he is causing waves or if it is even a big issue with him. Only that he does not like it. Should he lie? Should he ask them to ask the question at a more conveniant time?

The way the question is asked can have a lot do with available answers.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Well, of course in this case somebody had to ask him first before he could answer -- not even sure who would ask such a silly question for starters.
I think it would have been better if he just stated something like "Well it's up to coach to decide who starts, and he probably knows what's best for the team, so I'll leave it up to him."

Most NBA players are professionals at dealing with questions like this. Now I'm not even against KT on this issue, but I still think it could have been dealt with better
 
stojakapimp said:
I think it would have been better if he just stated something like "Well it's up to coach to decide who starts, and he probably knows what's best for the team, so I'll leave it up to him."

Most NBA players are professionals at dealing with questions like this. Now I'm not even against KT on this issue, but I still think it could have been dealt with better
Actualy most NBA players, while very professional at PLAYING the game are compleet boneheads when dealing with the media. Obviously some players are worse than others. J Will was so bad with the press that the team actualy tryed to keep him from the press his last season. Kenny is probalby about average. Once more I suggest a course in interviewing and media relations would be a big benifit to players.
 
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