Kings execute Devin Carter(‘s third year option)
- Thread starter Tetsujin
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why did I think he had more tattoos when we drafted him. anyhow, I looked at some older photos from before the draft and in just the last 18 months his poor head.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Being a King will age a man.
MizzouKing
Starter
Glad they are giving him some more time. I bet it was not a comfortable wait for he or his agent...
Padrino
All-Star
It would be monumentally stupid to trade him, unless you're packaging him with, like, Sabonis to bring back future high value draft compensation. But if the idea is to move Carter in pursuit of further "veteran help", then that's just more short-term thinking and dead-end play-in chasing nonsense. Also, what is it about this franchise that, no matter the GM, no matter the coach, they're just absolutely allergic to defensive talent?
ockingsfan
Starter
The thing about the Kings roster is that it is NOT devoid of defensive talent. We have Keegan, Keon, DC, IJ, Nique, Cardwell and even Shroeder and Westbrook can play good defense. The problem is the unbalance in the starting unit and bench rotation. We have too many vets that demand the ball in the starting unit and sadly it looks like Christie may not utilize the young defensive players on the bench properly.
If Christie can have the courage to play the players that actually play "94 feet all the time", this team can actually be exciting, fun to watch and good. Mix in the defense with the offense on the starting and bench units and this team can be well balanced, even as currently constructed. I'm just hoping Christie has the cajones to put this team in the best position to win and not just play the vet players or just the players that make the most money.
Caccia
Starter
Malas noticias.
Perhaps the front office never noticed that Devin Carter led the team last season in +- per 36 minutes, among players under contract, at +3.9, and once again is among the leaders in preseason, at +17.3. That is in four games for a total of 60 minutes. He also led the team last year in net rating, per the NBA.
For whatever reason, this guy is a winner.
Perhaps the front office never noticed that Devin Carter led the team last season in +- per 36 minutes, among players under contract, at +3.9, and once again is among the leaders in preseason, at +17.3. That is in four games for a total of 60 minutes. He also led the team last year in net rating, per the NBA.
For whatever reason, this guy is a winner.
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And yet, some will complain about the defense this season and how we "don't have defensive talent"
Same exact problem we had with Keon last year. Probably were unbalanced, but the solution is to get Keon, the teams best defender, on the floor as much as possible to balance out the roster. Not limit him to a minor bench role for 15-20 MPG
I predict similar discourse this year. We're going to be 27th on defense, whining about roster imbalance while Carter is garnering DNPs or on another team.
I dont pretend to ever understand the complexity of running an NBA FO, but some of this stuff is just so unbelievably easy to process. And the decision makers in charge of a multi billion dollar organization dont see it. If you want to play better defense, play your better defenders more.minutes
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
It's favoritism. Always has been. Bad GM's attempt to turn NBA roster building into a fine art when it's really more like tick tac toe. Not the greatest ego booster if you're entire identity as a human being is based around the idea that you're some kind of genius and the smartest person in the room. The worst thing that can happen in a simple game like this is overthinking.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
And honestly, there's literally no point to move him right now. This is common sense. The vets win or they don't. Young guys waiting while making peanuts is what happens all the time and if the vets don't get the job done good franchises U turn. Then rotation crunches don't matter then because then it's all about waiting out contracts or moving out salary if you can. Been there, done that. This is the post Artest era all over again.
Padrino
All-Star
Yep. I dunno why this organization just can't get out of their own way. It seems as if yet another Kings GM wants to take a two-year pitstop in the Laughingstock of the League™ phase of Kangz basketball, clinging onto 8th-10th seed hopes, putting off the glaringly obvious need for a rebuild, swapping young players for veteran talent, watching as other young Kings bolt for greener pastures, all while failing to make the playoffs and failing to earn high enough draft picks to help in the process of kickstarting a rebuild, leaving the franchise with cupboards so bereft that hope itself becomes a foreign notion.
Starting a rebuild now would not be terribly comfortable, since the Kings haven't bothered to think enough about the future to stockpile any significant draft capital, but at least they have something to work with in Murray/Ellis/Carter/Nique. Starting a rebuild two years from now, after they've already traded Devin Carter, watched Keon Ellis hightail it out of this dysfunction, and alienated both Keegan Murray and Nique Clifford by prioritizing heavy minutes for over-the-hill veterans in a desperately pathetic chase for play-in glory, would be absolutely miserable.
I'm not sure if Kings fans yet appreciate how crucial this season is for a reasonable franchise turnaround. Commit to a rebuild now, ship off some vets, prioritize heavy minutes for the young guys, finish in the bottom-three in the West, snag a high lottery pick, and there's a chance that we come out of an eventual three-year rebuild with a winning team. Refuse to rebuild, ship off any of the young guys for "veteran help", finish with the 10th seed, fail to earn a high lottery pick, and we could be looking at a five-year rebuild after the requisite two years spent as the Laughingstock of the League™ again.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Sometimes you have to be willing to sacrifice less offensive fire power, in order to improve defensively. This owner will not back that idea.
and most of the time you have to to sacrifice some win now potential in order to develop younger players and build a team towards the future. He won't do that either. One of the top 3 worst owners in major sports
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
It makes it next to impossible for an organization to get out of it's own way, when the owner has no clue how to build a team and the intangibles of what makes a team a legit threat to advance in the playoffs.... and insists on being the decision maker in the process of building it
Joshyjosh31
Starter
Ya but we gotta make room for Westbrook the 11th seed is within reach
I heard on radio on the morning drive a few days ago that the franchise slash owner is more concerned with the people who buy season tickets than the people such as on a forum like this. Season ticket holders are viewed more as casuals who will be intrigued by the big names like Derozan or Lavine or now Westbrook and that keeps them in the seat as opposed to a rebuild which could lose STH’s for a couple of years. Honestly makes sense by how the team is being run from big name acquisitions, former Kings from the glory years having roles in the organization and now a head coach, etc
Padrino
All-Star
I mean, if that's the case, the Kings are just a deeply unserious franchise that will continue to lurch its way to losing records every season, being reactive to the whims of STHs without any consideration for the big picture. You have to be willing to eat a few empty seats for a few seasons if you care about long-term financial viability, stability, and sustainability. A perennial playoff team is a far richer team than a perennial 11th seed that casts way-over-the-hill veterans in the role of money-makers.
They're evidently content with having 20,000 fans and ceding the rest of the 10-20 million potential fans who live in Northern California to the Warriors then? Makes sense.
All I hear is room for Russ to go from 28 minutes to 42 minutes
gunks
Hall of Famer
Why try to develop a homegrown Derrick White when you can try to wring a triple double out of the corpse of Russ in an L instead!
bball_nomad
Bench
I feel bad for Carter. Got drafted to a fun place (then), but ended up in a nuthouse.
There was a time when the Kings truly had an international following - all those fans spent quite a bit of money.
Oh well.