I agree, but for the basic prompt I gave, 10 paragraphs requires a bit of filler.As a college composition professor, I can tell you that it's very flat, two-dimensional writing. That piece uses a lot of words that logically flow from one to the next while saying very little of note in the most vague, non-specific way possible. It's not effective writing, in other words. At least, not as an essay, which is what the format is attempting to replicate.
ChatGPT4o said:The claim that "Keegan Murray is the best player on the Sacramento Kings" is a stretch, especially when you consider the contributions of De'Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis. Fox has been the heart and soul of this team. Last season, he averaged over 25 points and 6 assists per game, often delivering in clutch moments. When the Kings needed a basket, Fox was the go-to guy, consistently blowing by defenders and finishing strong. His explosive play and leadership have made him one of the league's top guards.
Domantas Sabonis brings another dimension to the Kings with his versatility. Averaging a double-double last season, Sabonis has been a force in the paint and an excellent facilitator from the post. His ability to score, rebound, and assist makes him a valuable asset. Sabonis's multiple All-Star appearances highlight his elite status and significant impact on the game, far surpassing what Murray has achieved so far.
Recognition and accolades are critical indicators of a player’s impact. Fox’s near All-Star status and Sabonis’s multiple All-Star appearances demonstrate their higher performance levels. These honors reflect their contributions to the team, which Murray has yet to match. Experience also plays a crucial role; both Fox and Sabonis have more NBA experience, translating to better decision-making and leadership, particularly in high-pressure situations.
Keegan Murray, while talented, is still developing his role within the team. He has shown potential with his smooth shooting and physical tools, but he lacks the consistency of Fox and Sabonis. Murray’s flashes of brilliance are promising, yet he hasn’t strung together enough consistent performances to be considered the team’s best player. He’s still adjusting to the NBA’s pace and learning how to be a consistent game-changer.
In summary, while Keegan Murray has the potential to become one of the Kings' best players, he’s not there yet. De'Aaron Fox’s explosive playmaking and leadership, along with Domantas Sabonis’s versatility and consistent impact, make them the true stars of the Sacramento Kings. Murray’s time may come, but for now, Fox and Sabonis are the backbone of this team.
I agree, but for the basic prompt I gave, 10 paragraphs requires a bit of filler.
If I ask it to try to address your criticism, and consolidate to 5 paragraphs, and to write like a popular sports writer, we get
That's a pretty good post by the standards of Kingsfans.com. We shouldn't delude ourselves into thinking we'll be able to clearly recognize LLMs. Rhetoric is now cheaper than air.
Meh. Any popular sports writer is going to compose with personality, with panache. This sample is about as flat as the previous sample. It has no strength of subject position. It reads as if a machine wrote it. Had a human sports writer composed that, my criticism would be the same: it reads as if a machine wrote it. There's no life in the prose. No bounce. No rhythm. No sense of style.
One need only look at the posts in the recent Mike Brown threads to find humanity in writing about sports. KF.com is host to quite a few very strong writers, each with distinct stylistic preferences and tics. This board remains worth visiting precisely because the posters here are full of individual, three-dimensional perspectives that amount to far more than a flat recitation of information skimmed from the shallowest of sources.
LLMs may eventually be able to better replicate what makes human writing so engaging and enlivening, but at the moment, these AIs scrape the internet for all kinds of text and determine which words should probabilistically follow each other based on common usage. This flattens the writing and renders it utterly unengaging. After all, it's the words that are unlikely to follow one another that create the kinds of collisions in prose that sparks a reader's interest. I don't always agree with @Mr. S£im Citrus, but you won't find anyone here confusing his very distinct voice with the slop ChatGPT currently generates.
Interesting about this AI development issue (and LLM, whatever that is).
Recently, I had one of the new mods ask (accused) me of using AI to post a long comment. I couldn't determine if it was a compliment or an insult. After reading the above few posts, now I can infer that the question was intended to be an insult.
I do use a spell checker and occasionally a grammar checker for comma usage but that is it. I wouldn't know where to even start with an AI app. (I guess it is an app of some sort.)
Just a personal comment. Carry on with the far more relevant Keegan thread.
claude ai is far better imoWhenever I ask ChatGPT a question and it gives me some long convoluted answer full of annoying "corporate speak" that sends my A.D.D. into overdrive, I just tell it to reexplain it to me like I'm a redneck and sadly it makes a lot more sense.
keegs is bulking up?
Could the plan be to move him to the 4? And shift the focus on getting a SF.hopefully not, that is only going to effect his stamina and endurance carrying around all that weight especially trying to be a 2 way
Could the plan be to move him to the 4? And shift the focus on getting a SF.
Could the plan be to move him to the 4? And shift the focus on getting a SF.
he really doesn’t look that much bigger, I’m not too worried. He also has to be able to sustain contact from 4s and not get injured. I think he may get more minutes at 4, depending on who our other forward is next year.I sure hope not. He's got an ideal body for advantages at the 3
hopefully not, that is only going to effect his stamina and endurance carrying around all that weight especially trying to be a 2 way
this may be a possible solution worth exploring, he may be better able to stick with his man east to west
I think Keegans biggest issue is contact. The more strength/mass the more durability he'd have. Not sure how much weight he needs but if the can absorb a little more contact that will go a long way to helping him when he's getting screened off by a big. That's typically where players get blown up, getting picked on a tough screen and having to fight through. Most of them can run all night regardless of their weight.
he really doesn’t look that much bigger, I’m not too worried. He also has to be able to sustain contact from 4s and not get injured. I think he may get more minutes at 4, depending on who our other forward is next year.
I'm really excited for Keegan and this team going forward. That leap everyone is waiting for, is absolutely coming IMO, and i think it's going to be quite glorious on both ends. He won't say it, but he clearly played through quite a few injuries last season beginning with his back. When his rookie year stroke returns, this team will be winning 50 + games
Replace “second year players” with “sophomores” and it might make more senseStats can be misleading. What even is a 10 second year? Let alone, a 10 second year player.
lolI'm a 10 second hall of famer!
That’s what she said.I'm a 10 second hall of famer!