Josh Smith?

[Sac4cwebb]

An unrestricted free agent. We could use him at SF. What y think?

 

[Bricklayer]

An unrestricted free agent. We could use him at SF. What y think?

Extremely unlikely to sign with Sacramento and has an inflated I'm-worth-max-money view of his abilities/contract demands.

 

[Hadlowe]

While his shotblocking and defense would be welcome, he has a chucker, me-first offensive mentality without the game to back it up. I don't think Malone could rein that in.

 

[Heuge]

While his shotblocking and defense would be welcome, he has a chucker, me-first offensive mentality without the game to back it up. I don't think Malone could rein that in.

The reason J-Smooth would not be here is first money, then money, and lastly money.

 

[cuad]

I don't like him.

 

[Darth Divac]

No, no, no, no, no, no and no. He's a more athletic, better defending J.J. Hickson-always bombing away from deep 2, without the shooting ability to justify it.

 

[KingsFanGER]

While i m not a big fan of Smith i think it is interesting how different some of you judge players, who put up very similar offensive numbers.
Cousins: 17,1 Pts on 46%
Smith: 17,5 Pts on 46%
Smith played more minutes than Cousins but he contributed with 4,2 APG, 1,2SPG and 1,8BPG to make up for that a little bit.
Smith would be valuable for the Kings and shouldnt be judged just by his shooting percentage. In my opinion he is a really good player, but he demands too much money to be signed by the Kings. But i think "chucker" and "me-first" takes it a bit too far ;-)

 

[Heuge]

While i m not a big fan of Smith i think it is interesting how different some of you judge players, who put up very similar offensive numbers.
Cousins: 17,1 Pts on 46%
Smith: 17,5 Pts on 46%
Smith played more minutes than Cousins but he contributed with 4,2 APG, 1,2SPG and 1,8BPG to make up for that a little bit.
Smith would be valuable for the Kings and shouldnt be judged just by his shooting percentage. In my opinion he is a really good player, but he demands too much money to be signed by the Kings. But i think "chucker" and "me-first" takes it a bit too far ;-)

Apples and Oranges. These are two completely different players. Hilarious you would even go there.

 

[KingsFanGER]

Apples and Oranges. These are two completely different players. Hilarious you would even go there.

If you think so. I am well aware of how different Smith and Cousins are, but it was stated that Smith is a "chucker", cause he shoots a lot of jumpers outside his comfort zone, which is, if you judge him by his shooting percentage, not necessarily true. If Cousins is considered as a cornerstone of the franchise (which i think he should be) while shooting almost with the same effectivness as Smith does, it is a bit strange how different those two players are judged. Even more if you keep in mind, that Smith brings a lot more to a team than just his scoring ability.
But hey it all is up to ones personal opinion.

 

[Gilles]

TS% is much more indicative of player effectiveness than FG% and here's Smith's arc: .506-.500-.506-.520-.533-.536-.540-.499-.501. It's easy to notice those .530-.540 seasons. It was obvious reliance on long twos is a losing strategy. He cut those down at one point, but the last two seasons went back to them.
Cousins TS% arc? .484-.499-.524 and since January this season it was even more impressive .547 - something Smith never achieved.

 

[KingsFanGER]

TS% is much more indicative of player effectiveness than FG% and here's Smith's arc: .506-.500-.506-.520-.533-.536-.540-.499-.501. It's easy to notice those .530-.540 seasons. It was obvious reliance on long twos is a losing strategy. He cut those down at one point, but the last two seasons went back to them.
Cousins TS% arc? .484-.499-.524 and since January this season it was even more impressive .547 - something Smith never achieved.

Thank you, but why do you think, that a stat, that takes FT% into account is more indicative to judge the opinion, that Smith is a "Chucker"?
I m not trying to defend Smith here. It makes no sense for the Kings to sign him, cause he wants way too much money. I my opinion he is a pretty good player though, that would help the Kings especially defensively, cause he is a totally different type of player, both talent wise and due to his experience, than any PF or SF on our Roster.
There are reasons why Atlante made the PO every year since 2008 and Josh Smith is one of those reasons. But i higly agree, that he is not a max-player and i doubt any team will give him this kind of contract.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Thank you, but why do you think, that a stat, that takes FT% into account is more indicative to judge the opinion, that Smith is a "Chucker"?

A stat that takes FT% into account is simply a better way to assess a player's offensive effectiveness. Players who get fouled a lot and make a lot of free throws help their team, while players who get fouled a lot and miss a lot of free throws hurt their team by doing so. It's really that simple. Whether the adjective "chucker" applies or not is pretty subjective. But a team has a certain number of possessions in a game and the high score wins, so knowing how many points a player scores per possessions that he uses is a key offensive factor - and you have to take FTs into account to get that.

 

[KingsFanGER]

A stat that takes FT% into account is simply a better way to assess a player's offensive effectiveness. Players who get fouled a lot and make a lot of free throws help their team, while players who get fouled a lot and miss a lot of free throws hurt their team by doing so. It's really that simple. Whether the adjective "chucker" applies or not is pretty subjective. But a team has a certain number of possessions in a game and the high score wins, so knowing how many points a player scores per possessions that he uses is a key offensive factor - and you have to take FTs into account to get that.

Good point. Thanks for the explanation.