Is that all the Kings need to do to win? run it back? Stand pat in the draft n take BPA's, keep banking on the future? Looking at some of the posts around here I feel like some people seem to actually feel this way. They seem to feel this is the safest most logical route. I'd argue its rather idealistic. I'd say its time to strike while the irons hot.
I thought the 1st rd series made it pretty obvious the answer to that is no, i would argue the F/O came to the same conclusion, I'd argue perhaps they were testing the rosters sink-or-swim-ability in the playoffs, using it as a trial of sorts, maybe they couldve pulled the trigger at the deadline on something big but thought to wait and see n clearly the team failed the trial - not only cant we win the championship with these guys, we probably cant escape the west. we lost in a pretty bad way. We come out in the 2nd half at home in game 7 and completely faceplant, they choked, trounced on the boards how embarassing, with the whole NBA fanbase watching too game did a huge rating. blew a big lead from up 2-0 to down 3-2.. We had homecourt and Draymond suspended. Lots of things fell our way, healthiest team all season. Andrew Wiggins missed that wide open 3 when we were only up 1 with 10 seconds to go at the end of game 1. Then the team we lost to gets clapped 4-2 by the 7 seed next rd.
So this is not a recap thread.
I just see people absolutely hating on Free Agent or Trade alternatives, everyones bad and overpaid, or anyone thats like a 3rd stringer isnt really even worth responding about. but whats gonna happen when we have to resign our guys for more? Whats gonna happen if we kick the can down the road? thats the path to victory? We're gonna pay them 30% more so they'll perform 30% better? we're gonna resign all these guys who get knocked out of the first rd, and then expect them to win the championship vs an even stronger field?
That sounds like banking way too much on the P word far as im concerned (Potential)... I say our stars deserve better than that, they've earned it!
What if Monk goes bezerk for us again and then we get knocked out early again? We pay him the big bucks and allocate buku $$$ to the SG spot for Huerter and Malik? Cuz IDK, to me, that doesnt seem to take us anywhere, thats what we've already got...... Thats what yall are looking forward to, paying the players we have even more? thats not what this is all about, thats not how you win championships...
N thats really what I see here.. I see way too much banking on this potential, or sitting there just trying to make safe moves, I think its not really the outlook at all, nor is it what got us here see the Sabonis trade.. (I put my outlook below in oversized font)
We're gonna pay Barnes 20, Fox 32, Domas is gonna want 30, Huerters locked in for 16-18... This seems so foolish to me I'ma just cut it off right there... Is that safer really? the word is Safer... Cuz that doesnt seem safer to me, infact that seems risky as hell to me, cuz in my estimation we're clearly not good enough. I see people talking about Davion being resigned... No team is looking at him as some potential starter, he's a bench guy everywhere, the bidding should be quite modest, not a factor here in summer '23, its a matter of '25, might seem strange that im bringing this up but there is this sort of apples being compared to oranges thing going on here with the money..
the thing that actually pisses me off the most, is people say things like "we'll have nothing left" if we spend X.. I disagree, I think thats a chicken little type of take we'll in fact never run out of ammo..and we already have plenty, so how could be be left with nothing, when we have so much already, something doesnt add up. and honestly if you really look at this trove of 2nd rd picks that we have... If we do load the salary structure in a very topheavy way, we have plenty of avenues for filling in the rest of the roster at bargain prices..
What makes sense to me is to fire with all the power we've got, because the core, the foundation is already established. Of course things could go wrong, anyone we sign could get injured.
I would argue that Richaun Holmes had an IMMENSELY negative impact on our title chances last season, far more than people from the kings org would ever lead us to believe... instead of having his $11MM put to use it was cheerleading on the sidelines. To me, it ruined us. So when I see people going crazy about a really good player and his salary I cant help but think of how much this smaller roleplayers deadweight salary hurt us this year, n how that was marginalized n now were making a big deal over a player whos one of the best... plus it's pretty clear they were just playing richaun to showcase him for a trade, so like Queta's stuck in the g-league over this! its terrible.
I say get us the best players possible, surround De'Aaron and Sabonis with the best players we can find.. all other strategies are inferior.. Get us players who can help Sabonis not have what happened to him ever again in that 1st rd series....... We're not gonna win playoff series by having worse starters but superior depth.. We're gonna beat playoff teams by getting Fox and Sabonis the most help we can...
and stop with the run Harrison Barnes out of town scenarios!! Like what if he's down to play for cheap here? Could be extremely valuable. We dont even know what the guys asking for and people wanna run him out of town. The craziest thing I see this offseason are in fact the Barnes replacement scenarios where we go from HArrison who played with immense patience and as an extension of the coach to some 23 year old player who was chucking shots on a bad team to juice his stats before free agency.
the only reason this thread exists is because I'm literally seeing scenarios that make the Kings way worse being posted about like their upgrades. and I mean worse than this past seasons team, not even next seasons, which unless something goes very wrong should easily be better.
I thought the 1st rd series made it pretty obvious the answer to that is no, i would argue the F/O came to the same conclusion, I'd argue perhaps they were testing the rosters sink-or-swim-ability in the playoffs, using it as a trial of sorts, maybe they couldve pulled the trigger at the deadline on something big but thought to wait and see n clearly the team failed the trial - not only cant we win the championship with these guys, we probably cant escape the west. we lost in a pretty bad way. We come out in the 2nd half at home in game 7 and completely faceplant, they choked, trounced on the boards how embarassing, with the whole NBA fanbase watching too game did a huge rating. blew a big lead from up 2-0 to down 3-2.. We had homecourt and Draymond suspended. Lots of things fell our way, healthiest team all season. Andrew Wiggins missed that wide open 3 when we were only up 1 with 10 seconds to go at the end of game 1. Then the team we lost to gets clapped 4-2 by the 7 seed next rd.
So this is not a recap thread.
I just see people absolutely hating on Free Agent or Trade alternatives, everyones bad and overpaid, or anyone thats like a 3rd stringer isnt really even worth responding about. but whats gonna happen when we have to resign our guys for more? Whats gonna happen if we kick the can down the road? thats the path to victory? We're gonna pay them 30% more so they'll perform 30% better? we're gonna resign all these guys who get knocked out of the first rd, and then expect them to win the championship vs an even stronger field?
That sounds like banking way too much on the P word far as im concerned (Potential)... I say our stars deserve better than that, they've earned it!
What if Monk goes bezerk for us again and then we get knocked out early again? We pay him the big bucks and allocate buku $$$ to the SG spot for Huerter and Malik? Cuz IDK, to me, that doesnt seem to take us anywhere, thats what we've already got...... Thats what yall are looking forward to, paying the players we have even more? thats not what this is all about, thats not how you win championships...
N thats really what I see here.. I see way too much banking on this potential, or sitting there just trying to make safe moves, I think its not really the outlook at all, nor is it what got us here see the Sabonis trade.. (I put my outlook below in oversized font)
We're gonna pay Barnes 20, Fox 32, Domas is gonna want 30, Huerters locked in for 16-18... This seems so foolish to me I'ma just cut it off right there... Is that safer really? the word is Safer... Cuz that doesnt seem safer to me, infact that seems risky as hell to me, cuz in my estimation we're clearly not good enough. I see people talking about Davion being resigned... No team is looking at him as some potential starter, he's a bench guy everywhere, the bidding should be quite modest, not a factor here in summer '23, its a matter of '25, might seem strange that im bringing this up but there is this sort of apples being compared to oranges thing going on here with the money..
the thing that actually pisses me off the most, is people say things like "we'll have nothing left" if we spend X.. I disagree, I think thats a chicken little type of take we'll in fact never run out of ammo..and we already have plenty, so how could be be left with nothing, when we have so much already, something doesnt add up. and honestly if you really look at this trove of 2nd rd picks that we have... If we do load the salary structure in a very topheavy way, we have plenty of avenues for filling in the rest of the roster at bargain prices..
What makes sense to me is to fire with all the power we've got, because the core, the foundation is already established. Of course things could go wrong, anyone we sign could get injured.
I would argue that Richaun Holmes had an IMMENSELY negative impact on our title chances last season, far more than people from the kings org would ever lead us to believe... instead of having his $11MM put to use it was cheerleading on the sidelines. To me, it ruined us. So when I see people going crazy about a really good player and his salary I cant help but think of how much this smaller roleplayers deadweight salary hurt us this year, n how that was marginalized n now were making a big deal over a player whos one of the best... plus it's pretty clear they were just playing richaun to showcase him for a trade, so like Queta's stuck in the g-league over this! its terrible.
I say get us the best players possible, surround De'Aaron and Sabonis with the best players we can find.. all other strategies are inferior.. Get us players who can help Sabonis not have what happened to him ever again in that 1st rd series....... We're not gonna win playoff series by having worse starters but superior depth.. We're gonna beat playoff teams by getting Fox and Sabonis the most help we can...
and stop with the run Harrison Barnes out of town scenarios!! Like what if he's down to play for cheap here? Could be extremely valuable. We dont even know what the guys asking for and people wanna run him out of town. The craziest thing I see this offseason are in fact the Barnes replacement scenarios where we go from HArrison who played with immense patience and as an extension of the coach to some 23 year old player who was chucking shots on a bad team to juice his stats before free agency.
the only reason this thread exists is because I'm literally seeing scenarios that make the Kings way worse being posted about like their upgrades. and I mean worse than this past seasons team, not even next seasons, which unless something goes very wrong should easily be better.
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