I have a bad feeling...

#2
I read somewhere that PPG is a tiebreaker - so there will be no "co-ROY" I don't think?

I do have a sinking feeling that the marketing blitz from GSW will work though and Curry will win it outright. I've already braced for that. Won't really have me wanting to jump off a bridge but those who remain addicted to the small town "we always get screwed just like in 2002" mentality will have a field day. Yes it will suck... but then Reke can be the answer to the trivia question "who is the only rookie in NBA history to average 20-5-5, with at least 70 games played, and not win ROY?"

Grant seems to be holding to his position that Reke will win comfortably.
 
#4
I read somewhere that PPG is a tiebreaker - so there will be no "co-ROY" I don't think?

I do have a sinking feeling that the marketing blitz from GSW will work though and Curry will win it outright. I've already braced for that. Won't really have me wanting to jump off a bridge but those who remain addicted to the small town "we always get screwed just like in 2002" mentality will have a field day. Yes it will suck... but then Reke can be the answer to the trivia question "who is the only rookie in NBA history to average 20-5-5, with at least 70 games played, and not win ROY?"

Grant seems to be holding to his position that Reke will win comfortably.

i'm not worry about this ROY thing. one of the select few who can do 20 5 and 5 and not win it? thats laughable
 
#5
I have a bad feeling that Evans will end up sharing the ROTY award with Curry. Anybody else?
I can share how I feel, maybe that will help. I personally feel there is no possibly way that Tyreke doesn't get rookie of the year. There is no way that a guy gets into the same stat class as LBJ, MJ, Oscar, and doesn't get this thing. Plus, TWO game winners--three counting the defensive play on Arenas, the amazing Chicago comeback... there is just no possible way. For solace till Thursady... perhaps review ESPN writers page of who they picked?? I really don't think there's any way Tyreke doesn't get this thing.
 
#6
I can share how I feel, maybe that will help. I personally feel there is no possibly way that Tyreke doesn't get rookie of the year. There is no way that a guy gets into the same stat class as LBJ, MJ, Oscar, and doesn't get this thing. Plus, TWO game winners--three counting the defensive play on Arenas, the amazing Chicago comeback... there is just no possible way. For solace till Thursady... perhaps review ESPN writers page of who they picked?? I really don't think there's any way Tyreke doesn't get this thing.

You left out one critical factor, no team is hated on more by the media and that chump David Stern than the Sacramento Kings.
 

pdxKingsFan

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#8
You left out one critical factor, no team is hated on more by the media and that chump David Stern than the Sacramento Kings.
This is such nonsense. I'm sorry but I am getting sick of reading it here. It makes us sound like a bunch of pathetic tin foil hat wearing fools.
 
#11
You left out one critical factor, no team is hated on more by the media and that chump David Stern than the Sacramento Kings.

Grizzlies are probably the most hated on, considering they have a weak fan following. Bobcats, I'm not sure if they currently are but probably will be (Jordan mitigates this a little bit) - Hornets left because its a college-ball state, Bobcats get weak support for the same reason. Bucks get little to no love. Toronoto gets hated on because its a huge international city that routinely fails to support its team. Clippers get dumped on for being a second-fiddle and tremendously bad team. Hell, even the Knicks get loads of hate for being such a bad franchise.


The Kings are a small market, yes, which is going to count against them, but compared to other comparable teams we have it good because (a) our recent run of success as one of the best, and most popular, teams in the league and (b) because Sacramento is a one-sport town, and NorCal supports the Kings hard, better than a lot of small market teams.

--I would add, thinking about it, that the Kings tend to get more love than the Warriors, despite the Warriors being in the bay, because they've been so bad for so long.
 
#12
Also: Steph has had a historically good rookie season as well as Tyreke. While I don't think he should win, since he didn't get to play much til later in the season, we shouldn't look down on his accomplishments. He may turn out to be one of the best scoring guards in the league one day. 2009 draft is going to turn out to be one of the best drafts of the naughts, especially if Blake recovers from injury. Splitting the ROY with Curry would not be the end of the world, but would be a nice way of recognizing two of the best young players in the league, who happen to play just a short drive down the 80 from each other. We should really be happy that the balance of basketball in California is going to start shifting North soon.
 
#13
Also: Steph has had a historically good rookie season as well as Tyreke. While I don't think he should win, since he didn't get to play much til later in the season, we shouldn't look down on his accomplishments. He may turn out to be one of the best scoring guards in the league one day. 2009 draft is going to turn out to be one of the best drafts of the naughts, especially if Blake recovers from injury. Splitting the ROY with Curry would not be the end of the world, but would be a nice way of recognizing two of the best young players in the league, who happen to play just a short drive down the 80 from each other. We should really be happy that the balance of basketball in California is going to start shifting North soon.
How about no. Has anyone ever stopped to remember why Curry wasnt getting minutes until later in the year? Its because HE WASNT PLAYING WELL. NOT because Don Nelson felt like it. Curry deserves a pat on the back. Tyreke deserves the ROY award, a bonus, and tons of recognition.

If Lebron James beat out Carmelo Anthony for ROY, I dont see how Curry could have any shot whatsoever at any piece of the ROY. I have a feeling alot of Warriors fans and media are going to be upset at how one sided the voting turns out to be in favor of Tyreke.
 
#14
Currys a fine player but he didn't make his team better and he doesn't affect the game itself. Tyreke demands a different level of defensive respect and approach from the other teams. Evans deserves this ROY award and it's not even close.
 
#16
Look, it's obvious Curry will get some first place votes, but it doesn't really matter. The winner is based on a point system. I think first place gets 5 point, second (3) and third gets 1 ( don't quote me on all of that).. So lets say Curry gets 50 percent of the first place votes. He and Tyreke will be tied, but then factor in the second place votes. Tyreke , will go no lower than second place on everyones poll. I also think Jennings might get a small percentage of the first place votes, and of those voteres, they will pick Tyreke second and Curry third. WHen all is said and done, Tyreke will have the most points., NO QUESTION.

Quit worrying!
 

Capt. Factorial

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#17
It's the truth and if you're sick of reading stuff on here go somewhere. I don't have to censor myself because you're in in denile.
No, it's nonsense. David Stern has gone to bat pretty big time to keep the Kings in Sacramento, no matter what your inferiority complex says. But hey, don't censor yourself. The larger the sample size, the easier it is to estimate the signal-to-noise ratio.
 
#18
Also: Steph has had a historically good rookie season as well as Tyreke. While I don't think he should win, since he didn't get to play much til later in the season, we shouldn't look down on his accomplishments. He may turn out to be one of the best scoring guards in the league one day. 2009 draft is going to turn out to be one of the best drafts of the naughts, especially if Blake recovers from injury. Splitting the ROY with Curry would not be the end of the world, but would be a nice way of recognizing two of the best young players in the league, who happen to play just a short drive down the 80 from each other. We should really be happy that the balance of basketball in California is going to start shifting North soon.
No offense, but you kind of sound like a Warriors fan here. Not a bad thing, necessarily, just sayin. Yes, Curry's been very good this year, he's a great player. But I really don't see how in the bejeezus any objective person can give the award to anyone but Tyreke only. Sure, he can score, and he's a good playmaker, but defensively there isn't even a comparison. Tyreke is one of the top 5 defenders at his position already. He also has been performing at his level with the entire other team's defense focused on him. Many, many times, he's driven through 3, 4, and even 5 defenders to lay the ball up. The kind of havoc--pun intended--that creates for the other team is hard to underestimate. Curry is good--very good--but Tyreke is on a whole other level.
 
#19
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I have a feeling alot of Warriors fans and media are going to be upset at how one sided the voting turns out to be in favor of Tyreke.[/QUOTE]
who cares?? People should know that Tyreve deserve the most on rookie of the year
 

bajaden

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#22
You left out one critical factor, no team is hated on more by the media and that chump David Stern than the Sacramento Kings.
Please tell me why you believe this. I've never had the feeling that the media or Stern hates the Kings. What the hell are you basing it on? Show me some articles or some proof of this. It appears to me that Stern is doing all he can to help the Kings stay in Sacramento. The media may be partial to their own teams, but that hardly qualifies as hate. The Bee doesn't count because its just a step above the National Inquirer. Actually now that I think about it, I'd put the Inquirer ahead of the Bee.
 
#23
I'm not REAL worried about this...if a bunch of people want to screw Reke and give the award to a guy that's not in the same class as Reke(20-5-5)then go ahead, there's nothing anyone can do about it, and it just adds more fuel to the fire and more motivation for next season. I don't think he's losing this award IMO, with 20-5-5.
 
#25
I'm not REAL worried about this...if a bunch of people want to screw Reke and give the award to a guy that's not in the same class as Reke(20-5-5)then go ahead, there's nothing anyone can do about it, and it just adds more fuel to the fire and more motivation for next season. I don't think he's losing this award IMO, with 20-5-5.
Co-signed, 1985!
 

pdxKingsFan

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#27
It's the truth and if you're sick of reading stuff on here go somewhere. I don't have to censor myself because you're in in denile.
I'm sorry, but I've lived in a number of NBA cities and there is always a number of fans that think the league is out to get them. And unless they are the Lakers or Jordan's Bulls, they may have a legit argument once every 20 something years. Even those two cities have major inferiority complexes vs. New York who just hasn't had a good team except for 2 or 3 times in the last 20 years so it hasn't reared it's head in the NBA.

We have the 2002 series. That's it. And while I do believe the league may have orchestrated a game 7, we were at home for that game and that game was officiated right down the middle and we didn't get it done. Everything else people like to pout about happens to every other team all the time.

Right now there are a bunch of Warrior and Bucks fans convinced their guy deserves it too. They're wrong. And when it doesn't go their way, because it won't, they are going to pout like sissies too.
 
#28
We have the 2002 series. That's it. And while I do believe the league may have orchestrated a game 7, we were at home for that game and that game was officiated right down the middle and we didn't get it done.
If it wasnt for game 6 being fixed, there would be no game 7. You cant automatically hand out a game to one team and then blame the innocent team for not getting it done. Its just bad taste to think so.
 

pdxKingsFan

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#29
If it wasnt for game 6 being fixed, there would be no game 7. You cant automatically hand out a game to one team and then blame the innocent team for not getting it done. Its just bad taste to think so.
Make no mistake, I think we got screwed that series, which is why I said it is our one legit beef. That said, they didn't just hand them the series. We should have won game 7. To be honest at this point I'm more irritated about losing game 4. It was also almost 10 years ago and even if Stern came out and said he fixed the series hahaha, it won't change the crap I endured being a Kings fan in SoCal back then. My other point though was that I don't think it was about gifting it to LA as much as it was about the revenue from extending the series. I don't think they cared who won, so long as that series went the distance because it was the Finals that year, despite the need to beat Jersey.

But stuff like being the worst team last year and only getting the 4th pick, that happens every few years. Talk to Celtics fans. It wasn't a conspiracy against the Kings and the end result worked out very well for us. I didn't want Griffin who we surely would have picked if we "won". We also have to consider that Stern has been very actively involved in keeping the Kings in Sacramento. He didn't do that for any other team that considered a move, but surely it is because he secretly has it in for us. :rolleyes:
 
#30
Bill simmons is going for curry. This hurts me. He had been a big tyreke supporter.
He's going for immediate attention and clicks is what he's going for. Just to be different. I will never believe that any rational person can actually believe that anybody other than Tyreke Evans was the best rookie from the 09-10 season. They are either crazy or shady. But I feel your pain.