We should only play teams at full strength, from now on. Playing teams missing players seems to be a guaranteed loss.
[Game] Game 61: Sacramento Kings @ Miami Heat - 3/7/15 - 4;30 pst 7:30 est
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Wait, we're judging the worth of the Karl hiring on the last thirty games of an already lost season? Is that what we're doing?
Agreed. Not fair to karl. But the FO. Every finger is fairly pointed in their direction. Most ridiculous self implosion of all time
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
Who has also missed his starting PG for his entire tenure this far.
Chubbs
Starter
Yes.
It made no sense to bring him in now. As you said, lost season. What's the point of bringing him in now? To make fans feel warm and fuzzy?
It ain't working.
And my comment was less a shot at karl and more a shot at our moronic ownership group.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
Didn't watch this one but looking at the boxscore:
King's starters: 23 fouls
Miami's starters: 9 fouls (6 of them from 1 guy named Henry Walker - who?)
I am actually not sure who started for Miami, but if Chalmers started then they had only 7 fouls for the starters. This sounds like some extreme home-cooking if you ask me. Cousins fouled out! Never saw that coming.... (sarcasm).
As always, our major problems have been the same problems for seemingly now 232543 years.
- Defense
- Talent deprived roster after our top 5 players
- Ill fitting pieces (couple that with lack of talent, easy to see why we can't win)
- Cousin's fouls: LOVE the big guy, but this has become a serious issue, now lasting half a decade. Needs to be addressed seeing as without him, we would lose to a D-League team
- Coaching inconsistency: Hopefully solved now (fingers crossed that Karl's health stays as is)
King's starters: 23 fouls
Miami's starters: 9 fouls (6 of them from 1 guy named Henry Walker - who?)
I am actually not sure who started for Miami, but if Chalmers started then they had only 7 fouls for the starters. This sounds like some extreme home-cooking if you ask me. Cousins fouled out! Never saw that coming.... (sarcasm).
As always, our major problems have been the same problems for seemingly now 232543 years.
- Defense
- Talent deprived roster after our top 5 players
- Ill fitting pieces (couple that with lack of talent, easy to see why we can't win)
- Cousin's fouls: LOVE the big guy, but this has become a serious issue, now lasting half a decade. Needs to be addressed seeing as without him, we would lose to a D-League team
- Coaching inconsistency: Hopefully solved now (fingers crossed that Karl's health stays as is)
miltonap
Starter
honestly, Karl just got hired. Should we have won? Yes. But the players are still learning a new system. The turnovers and meltdowns will go down once the players are more comfortable playing in the system. We'll also get higher IQ players in the off-season (I hope). I wouldn't mind seeing Rudy traded tbh for some smart defenders. And for the record, that was a foul on DMC. He was still moving when the Heat player left his feet.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
No way is it time to judge anything but it's definitely time to go back to the drawing board coach. A lot of ineffective plays that aren't in the interest of your most talented player are being run early and often.
The point of bringing him in is to give him the opportunity to evaluate the personnel for himself, so that he can determine on his own which players he can use going forward, rather than just let D'Alessandro decide for him.
I'll give you a little recap. Rudy and Ben started the game HOT. Red HOT. Cuz had a slow start. Tyler Johnson was everywhere.. I've never seen a player this year hustle more than Ray does..Great player to have on any team. We were sharing the ball extending the lead, and it was nice to watch. Bench sucked though. Ray did a few nice things. Pretty quiet though.
3rd quarter and Cuz comes out strong as hell. He comes alive. We do pretty decent 3rd quarter with Cuz leading the way.
4th quarter comes and TO after TO. Most of the TOs came from passes though. Miami switches to zone and starts causing us problems. We don't know how to respond .The team wasn't playing selfish at all, but we passed too much imo. Couldn't get to Cuz nor Gay without a turnover. Just a terrible quarter.
Defense was ok today, but offense was terrible at the end.
PurpleHaze
All-Star
Atlanta is 29-4 at home this season. I think Monday there is virtually no hope although 76ers at home upset Hawks by 8 earlier tonight.
Chubbs
Starter
Oh, is Karl GM?
I must have missed something.
Until I see evidence of Karl's influence on this roster, I'm not gonna believe the talk that he'll have input.
Malone certainly didn't.
Want to take a guess which team rested three starters?
It wasn't supposed to magically turn around the season.
What's the point of waiting? Get Karl in now, let him evaluate the players we do have in real basketball games before we (hopefully) make a playoff push next season. And we get a head starting to getting his system learned and the way he wants to do things.
Ironically, which seems to have flown over your head, is the "moronic" move would have been to left Karl on the sidelines until the offseason. Wasting another 30 games under Corbin would have been exactly that; a giant waste and would have snowballed player development even more than it already was.
You'll see evidence of Karl's influence around the same time you saw the evidence of Malone's influence: after the benefit of a full offseason and a full training camp.
George Karl has a hell of a lot more cache than Michael Malone, and I say this as someone who was ambivalent to Karl's hiring. He's not going to let D'Alessandro tell him how he has to play, and he's not going to let D'Alessandro handcuff him to players he can't use.
Chicken Chaser
Bench
Does zone defense shut down the dribble drive offense? We stopped going for 3s and kept forcing shots inside/turning the ball over in the 4th.
Chubbs
Starter
The main selling point as I understood it was Karl's experience immediately turning around teams.
My bad. That's all I heard around here for a couple months.
There was clearly a desire for a strong finish to this season.
KingsFanatic
Bench
I agree that the rest of the season is so Karl can evaluate what he has to work with and build on it in the offseason.......I don't think anyone(except maybe the media) excepted Karl to wave a magic wand and all of the sudden the Kings were going to start winning.. LOL......That's not even logical and people are naive if they actually believed that was even possible.
The Kings will suck for decades to come unless they have new guys running the show, guys who knows how to recruit and scout talents. Miami has an undrafted player on their roster, not going to say who, but he came from a university not too far from Sacramento, and by the looks of it, he is much better than our last two top draft picks. If we had good scouts, we could of had him. I honestly do not think the coaching is the problem, the Kings just suck at scouting and drafting.
CurseOfTheSalmons
Starter
This dude is already better than Ben and Nik.
PurpleHaze
All-Star
Yeah, the obscure Fresno St. nobody would no doubt start ahead of high first round picks McLemore and Stauskus. But here's worse part. Those two on the bench would likely not improve Kings second unit. Miami's bench plastered Kings bench 59-22!
Fresno St. did produce a player by the name of Paul George, I think he has a broken leg tho..
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KingMilz
Guest
What can Karl do?
Our 3rd best player right now is 39 year old PG who' can barely run and can't shoot (players should not even be playing the PG position beyond the middle 30's at most) who we are all of a sudden asking to be a lockdown defender against the likes of Wade/Vitor Oldipo and Payton cause Rudy/Ben/Nik/Derrick are all to soft and have no understanding or desire of playing defense. He's literally the only intelligent player on the roster who makes perfect passes for the scrubs on this team to completely **** up or mishandle.
We are 100% reliant on a talented big man who half the time is either in foul trouble or refusing to play to his strengths and our 2nd best player aside from being a guy who makes bad shots really does nothing else.
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
what do you mean? we have an all class talent minor team in reno. in all seriousness though, i knew this team was f***** when they had mullin as special advisor. look at what he did for GSW for years. he's a nellie disciple and bringing that nellieness to the kings in one form or another. they need to clean house soon before cuz decides to bolt. we've got 2 full seasons before he's gone.
