Francisco Garcia

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I love this dude, minus some questionable shots and reactions to foul calls, I have really enjoyed seeing the rook so far this preseason.

Now this thread can be about his current play and situations or whatever but I did a quick search on the "2005 nba draft results" and the first link I got was.. http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/Draft/ and giving the Kings a "C" grade for that pick. Ok, whatever, so I click the "Garcia" link and get, in short..

“Remember Reece Gaines? Neither do I. The fact is that outside of Coach K, Rick Pitino is the best coach in college basketball, and he sometimes makes players seem better than they really are. No doubt Garcia has a bit of toughness and leadership qualities that Gaines didn’t have, but the question is, what does Garcia do better than other guys? The answer is, nothing really, and he should be prepared for a career on the bench or overseas."

I'm thinking Cisco is going to be in some sort of our rotation this year and in the years to come. No?

I'd pin that up on my wall if I were Garcia.


 
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i agree, the "cisco kid" has a bright future in the nba. he's picked up a couple of bad fouls and some of the shots he's taken are questionable, but i really like watching him play. he is lightyears better than how kevin martin was last year at this time. it looks like martin and garcia have really great chemistry, it shows on the court (the out-of-bounds alley-oop), i only hope adelman chooses to play him alot more than he played martin. watching preseason, we have a really solid, deep bench. thomas, skinner, williamson, hart, martin, garcia...not too shabby.
 
im not saying garcia is on the same level as martin, martin is obviously a better player, but comparing martin last year as a rookie and from what ive seen from garcia so far, garcia has a better feel for the game.
 
Garcia learned to play the Princeton offense from Rick Pitino. That certainly can't have hurt.

I like Kevin. Having watched him and heard a lot of good things from people in a position to know, I think he was a great pick last year by Petrie and I believe he'll pay dividends in the long run.

I like Garcia. I think he was a great pick this year by Petrie and I believe he, too, is going to prove to be a valuable asset.

It makes a lot of sense all of a sudden that Petrie picked him - especially since we're seeing him do a decent job at the 3.

Garcia and Martin TOGETHER bring an electric charge to the court. They obviously work well together and they're going to give opposing defenses fits. Double team one and the other will make you pay. Take you eye off the ball for even a second and you're going to have to try to explain what happened.

BOTH of them AND Hart, BTW, bring an explosive energy off the bench that is reminiscent of the old Bench Mob.

I'm just very happy we have them both.

GO KINGS!!!
 
Garcia may or may not be in our future plans, but he is worthy of some playing time, thats for sure, even as green as he is, he's got a decent shot and he's versitile enough to warrent it. He reminds me more of a Reggie Miller type of player, and comparisons to Martin are foolish. Actually he sorta reminds me, just in his shot, of former King Ricky Berry.(RIP) And that aint half bad.
 
He reminds me of Tayshaun a little.. maybe just because of the body.. Cisco can shoot, slashes/cuts very well, hits the layups on either side of the way he's cutting from and is dropping assists off naturally.
 
Comparing K-Mart from last year and Cisco this year. I think that Cisco is a lot better. He has a better feel for the game then K-Mart did last year.
 
nebs said:
He reminds me of Tayshaun a little.. maybe just because of the body.. Cisco can shoot, slashes/cuts very well, hits the layups on either side of the way he's cutting from and is dropping assists off naturally.
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That Tayshaun comparison...eh...no.

But the thing with Cisco has always been that he plays like a King. That was why I knew we'd draft him months before we did. He shoots, he passes. We have yet to see whether he can consistently defend. He was a King before he was a King. So in many ways, its probably an easier transition for him from college to our team than it would be for most rooks. He can play a similar game to what he's used to, and is well suited for our shooting/cutting offense.

On other teams, he might not have as much value, although I have to think a few of the teams in need of shooting from their backcourt will end up regretting passing on him. If he can actually play SF at this level without getting pummeled inside, can make an effective and logical backup to Peja because he can do all the things that Peja can do, and throw in passing as well. Can hit the three, slash, probably not rebound much for a SF. Just needs to calm down and quit forcing if he's going to get rotation minutes. Throwing up a quickshot and stealing a shot from Ronnie Price is one thing, stealing that shot from Bibby, Bonzi, SAR etc. is quite another and will land him on the bench.
 
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Bricklayer said:
But the thing with Cisco has always been that he plays like a King. That was why I knew we'd draft him months before we did. He shoots, he passes. We have yet to see whether he can consistently defend. He was a King before he was a King. So in many ways, its probably an easier transition for him from college to our team than it would be for most rooks. He can play a similar game to what he's used to, and is well suited for our shooting/cutting offense.
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Exactly right.

Cisco knows the offence from his college days. He is a perfect fit for our offence. It would take a lot less time to adapt to our style than it would have for Martin.

Cisco also is more experienced than Martin. He has represented his country, has played against experienced men at the international level rather than just his college peers.

I like the type of player Garcia is. He has played mostly as a SF during the pre-season and has done a pretty good job being Peja's back up. The real question is whether he can play SF when the real stuff starts. If he can then he will be a VERY good pick up for us. He gives us a back up for Peja. Something we haven't had since Hedo. As you said, with Cisco we can run a lot of th esame stuff with run with Peja. Their games are very similar and Cisco will only get better with with more time on the court and experience in the system.
 
I've never got or agreed about the Reggie Miller-comparision to Cisco I've read sometimes (in May/June/July). As Garcia definitely isn't just a shooter (and some things that tie into that), he can and will do some of everything well, for him. I also think he'll develop into a solid/good player on d. I really like him a lot (some of that coming from a handful of his college and VSL stuff I've seen)!
 
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That's my boy! If you only saw how far he has come from the day he arrived on Louisville's campus, you surely can realize how good he can be. He wasn't a highly touted high school player but he worked his tail off. He won't be out worked by anyone and he will give everything he has to become better every day. He will be a good one, you can count on it!
 
tyrant said:
garcia is raw
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If meant literally, I think anything but. He's polished and more mature basketball wise than most rookies nowadays. He's already 23 -- oldest rookie drafted. Might well indicate the upside is not as high, but likely again one of the things that attracted Petrie. We have not exactly excelled at developing raw players around here. Prefer to get polished older guys and plug them into the system knowing what we have.

If meant as slang (well newer slang), then cancel transmission.
 
You may also have to know that "sick" is a good thing same goes for the word "nasty" when talking sports

Anyways...lovin lovin lovin Garcia's play up to this point...he's gotten better each day and with each game...after we drafted him people were saying how he has this incredible passion, fire and desire as well as a huge heart and 3 preseason games into this whole thing we're already seeing it...he's gonna be great for us this year and him and Kevin as a duo is gonna pay off by seasons end...I think they're gonna be like Mo Evans and Matt Barnes who came off the bench for us last year and made a lot of good things happen as well as bring the energy...when the fans saw both of them get off the bench everyone started to stir and get excited...same thing is gonna happen here with Kevin and FG...I can't wait!
 
I think Garcia is light years ahead of where Martin was last year. Garcia just seems to be a "basketball" player. He just seems to be in the right spot most of the time and has good basketball instincts. I think it's a quality you either have or don't, I'm not sure it can be learned.

Doesn't hurt that the guy genuinely LOVES the game in a way that not many players seem to these days.
 
bad = good, which also = nice, which also = sick, or ill, or raw or... :)


There is no rhyme or reason to it, just the need for each new generation to develop their own terms. Once upon a time it would have been groovy. :) Amusing thing will be 20 years from now when "raw" will sound as dated as "righteous" and somebody's kid will hear them use the term "ill" and just roll their eyes. ;)
 
Bricklayer said:
That Tayshaun comparison...eh...no.
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Wasn't comparing the two players' games, I think they have semi-similar body types.
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nebs said:
Wasn't comparing the two players' games, I think they have semi-similar body types.
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That I guess I can go with, although I think Garcia has bulked up a little and is a lot less of a spider. I think I was reacting to having heard the other before -- kind of like the Peja/Bird thing where physical similarity blurs the mind's eye to considerable talent/game differences.
 
iheartBrad said:
Anyways...lovin lovin lovin Garcia's play up to this point...he's gotten better each day and with each game
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Agreed, I've been pleasantly surprised that Garcia has lived up to the hype that some around here have been giving him. That alley-oop to Kevin was sweet, you can tell they have a feel for each other on the court. So far he seems to be a very well rounded and multi-talented player.
 
Garcia did not learn anything about the Princeton offense from Rick Pitino. Pitino does not teach, and has never taught, the Princeton offense. The Princeton offense is a very patient offense, based on cuts, screens, and backdoor passes. Pitino's style of play has always been the exact opposite: high pressure defense, a lot of fast breaks, and a ton of 3 point shots.

I like what I've seen of Garcia so far. But his love of the 3 point shot, no doubt instilled by Pitino, needs to be toned down a little. Actually, a lot.
 
Well, he sure seems to have done a 180 progress wise in the Denver game.
 
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Reality check: Garcia is a rookie. He has a lot to learn about the NBA and the Kings. It's not fair to expect too much or be too disappointed. Give the kid a chance and let him make his mistakes and his high points - like that three!!!!!
 
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