Five Players Who Could Be Traded This Year - Including Peja

[Lirica]

http://nbablogger.tripod.com/nba/index.blog?entry_id=1236308

4) Predrag Stojakovic, Sacramento Kings

Predrag Stojakovic, who has spent his entire professional career with Sacramento, may not be wearing a Kings uniform for too much longer. The 6'10" SF has reportedly asked for a trade out of Sacramento on several occasions. Objectively speaking, despite the Kings's commitment to maxing out big-name players such as Mike Bibby, Brad Miller, and newly signed Shareef Abdur Rahim, the Kings haven't reached the third round of postseason play in Stojakovic's tenure. So Peja may have a point: If we're not doing anything, why do I need to be here any longer?

If the Kings don't appear to be a serious contender come February time, do not rule out a Peja trade out of Sacramento. There will be teams that would love to acquire Peja and his expiring contract---and he 0 would likely be traded to a more serious playoff contender.


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[SacTownKid]

Maxing out Shareef?! What an idiot! Unless you call 5 million a year max money. A trade like this could happen, but you better believe he won't be shipped out as an expiring contract. It would be to a team just within reach of the title or a team looking to make some big moves to aquire a star shooter. We would also have to be aquiring something pretty nice in return.

 

[Rain man]

Thanks for the article, but hard to take it seriously when the author makes so many glaring errors...

1) Commitment to maxing out big name players??? Correct me if I am wrong, but none of the three players mentioned are maxed out. Bibby is close, but I don't beleive he was a max deal. Brad Miller is not a max, and for what he brings to the table, I think his $60 million or so contract was well worth it. If Dalambert can pull down that kind of money as a one-dimensional player, Brad certainly can. Finally, and most glaringly, SAR is not as MAX contract, he is a mid-level exception. AND, the one player that we did max (CWebb) is nowhere to be seen...

2) Peja has never been on a team to get to the third round? Peja was certainly on the WCF team that played the Lakers. While he was injurred for part of the postseason he did play in the early rounds and made it back for Games 5,6,7 in the WCF.

3) asked for a trade on several occasions? I thought it was just once, and even if it was multiple times, Peja has been very clear in the recent past that he is no longer seeking a trade. In short, he rescinded his demand long ago.

4) Very unlikely that Peja would be traded in season. His current contract is below market value making it unlikely that Geoff would get anything of value for him (save the old Ron Artest rumor). Most likely, if Peja is to be traded, he will be involved in some sort of sign and trade next summer.

Amazing that such a short article could contain so many awful errors. I fully expect that Peja will be a King all season, and if he is traded it would be a sign and trade with a team he likes, wants him, and has cap space, see Chicago. Although, if they like him and want him I don't see why they wouldn't just sign him straight up... that worries me

 

[Bricklayer]

4) Very unlikely that Peja would be traded in season. His current contract is below market value making it unlikely that Geoff would get anything of value for him (save the old Ron Artest rumor). Most likely, if Peja is to be traded, he will be involved in some sort of sign and trade next summer.

Agree with the other errors, although I suspose it could have just been sloppy wording. But in any case just wanted to comment on the "Peja is underpaid so you can't get value for him" thing which I've heard opined around here a few times. That's actually far from being the truth.

Aside from the obvious combination of Peja with another largish contract (Corliss etc.) there are a TON of extremely talented players paid right in Peja's range this year. Just as scattered examples, under the new CBA's 25% rule you could trade Peja's $7.6 mil contract for Corey Maggette, Jason Richardson, Rashard Lewis, Marcus Camby, Andre Miller, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Al Harrington, Desmond Mason, Ron Artest, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Big Z, Samuel Dalmebert, Jamaal Crawford etc. etc....or even our own Brad Miller. Let alone for combinations of young talents working on their rookie deals. Peja isn't THAT underpaid anymore, and actually has a very nice sized contract at this point for trading -- not too big, not too small. Within reach with throw in players on one side or the other of 80% of the contracts int he league.

 

[KingKong]

"Corey Maggette, Jason Richardson, Rashard Lewis."

If Peja is traded, I hope it's for one of these guys. Artest maybe out of reach.

 

[nbrans]

Aside from the obvious combination of Peja with another largish contract (Corliss etc.) there are a TON of extremely talented players paid right in Peja's range this year. Just as scattered examples, under the new CBA's 25% rule you could trade Peja's $7.6 mil contract for Corey Maggette, Jason Richardson, Rashard Lewis, Marcus Camby, Andre Miller, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Al Harrington, Desmond Mason, Ron Artest, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Big Z, Samuel Dalmebert, Jamaal Crawford etc. etc....or even our own Brad Miller. Let alone for combinations of young talents working on their rookie deals. Peja isn't THAT underpaid anymore, and actually has a very nice sized contract at this point for trading -- not too big, not too small. Within reach with throw in players on one side or the other of 80% of the contracts int he league.

As I opined in another post, the problem is that unless a team that wants to trade for Peja simultaneoulsy signs him to a contract extension it's unlikely that they're going trade one of these talents with the uncertainty that Peja will walk at the end of the season. The Kings could hypothetically get equal value because yes, the salaries would match up, but it's very unlikely from here on out.

 

[starks]

Agree with the other errors, although I suspose it could have just been sloppy wording. But in any case just wanted to comment on the "Peja is underpaid so you can't get value for him" thing which I've heard opined around here a few times. That's actually far from being the truth.

Aside from the obvious combination of Peja with another largish contract (Corliss etc.) there are a TON of extremely talented players paid right in Peja's range this year. Just as scattered examples, under the new CBA's 25% rule you could trade Peja's $7.6 mil contract for Corey Maggette, Jason Richardson, Rashard Lewis, Marcus Camby, Andre Miller, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Al Harrington, Desmond Mason, Ron Artest, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Big Z, Samuel Dalmebert, Jamaal Crawford etc. etc....or even our own Brad Miller. Let alone for combinations of young talents working on their rookie deals. Peja isn't THAT underpaid anymore, and actually has a very nice sized contract at this point for trading -- not too big, not too small. Within reach with throw in players on one side or the other of 80% of the contracts int he league.

ok...according to your list there is lot of options for peja trade (for equal talent)....so let's trade peja for desmond mason or al harigton or maggetie (move bw on 3)......are we going to be better with any of these option?.....I know you don't like peja but desmond mason????....c'mon

 

[VF21]

http://nbablogger.tripod.com/nba/index.blog?entry_id=1236308

4) Predrag Stojakovic, Sacramento Kings

Predrag Stojakovic, who has spent his entire professional career with Sacramento, may not be wearing a Kings uniform for too much longer. The 6'10" SF has reportedly asked for a trade out of Sacramento on several occasions. Objectively speaking, despite the Kings's commitment to maxing out big-name players such as Mike Bibby, Brad Miller, and newly signed Shareef Abdur Rahim, the Kings haven't reached the third round of postseason play in Stojakovic's tenure. So Peja may have a point: If we're not doing anything, why do I need to be here any longer?

If the Kings don't appear to be a serious contender come February time, do not rule out a Peja trade out of Sacramento. There will be teams that would love to acquire Peja and his expiring contract---and he 0 would likely be traded to a more serious playoff contender.


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Who is the bozo who wrote this anyway? And why did I waste my time reading it?

So Peja may have a point: If we're not doing anything, why do I need to be here any longer?

What a load of garbage. I was pretty upset with Peja over his trade demand/request, but he didn't say anything like what the "writer" has used. The comment makes Peja sound extremely shallow, ungrateful, etc. and, as mad as I once was, I never thought he was any of those things.

I was surprised to learn that the Kings haven't reached the third round of the playoffs with Peja.

 

[Bricklayer]

ok...according to your list there is lot of options for peja trade (for equal talent)....so let's trade peja for desmond mason or al harigton or maggetie (move bw on 3)......are we going to be better with any of these option?.....I know you don't like peja but desmond mason????....c'mon

That was not my point. My point was simply that IF the decision is made to trade Peja, it is certainly not his contract that will be holding us back (as nbtrans noted the bigger issue is that by leaving him unsigned we have given Peja control of the franchise by allowing him to virtually veto any trade by merely telling the other team he will not resign with them).

In truth I think Peja is increasingly superflorous with our dogpile of scorers, but merely swinging him of another scorer isn't going to change that dynamic. What we actually need is an entirely different sort of player there. What we need is Andrei Kirilenko or someone similar (although there may not be), not just some guy who scores. (or alternately we need to move one of the other scorers for better balance, but they will all come cheaper).

But to the degree you moved Peja for just another scorer, the reasoning would be clear -- Corey Maggette at $7 mil (or whatever, forgot exact #) is worth considerably more than Peja Stojakovic at $13 mil. Much more bang for your buck. The days of Peja as any sort of bargain are rapidly drawing to a close here, and the days of Peja as an anvil contract will follow thereafter. So if you can make a move to perpetuate your team's ability to have a 20ppg scorer for cheap rather than having to pay him max, that would be reason enough. Not as good as getting a player that actually complements and covers up the shortcomings of all the offensive weapons you have, but smart on finances alone.

 

[Gary]

It's hard to take somethign serious when they don't know what the hell they are saying. Too many errors to even take this idiot seriously.

 

[starks]

In truth I think Peja is increasingly superflorous with our dogpile of scorers, but merely swinging him of another scorer isn't going to change that dynamic. What we actually need is an entirely different sort of player there. What we need is Andrei Kirilenko or someone similar (although there may not be), not just some guy who scores. (or alternately we need to move one of the other scorers for better balance, but they will all come cheaper).

For me it means entirely new basketball philosophy, defensively oriented and probably with new coach....slow down and play half court offense?...possible only if we trade brad with peja for decent low post 7 footer and defensive oriented animal.....however, I think petrie is not ready for such reconstruction.....me personally don't like grab/hold/slow/boring/duncan game but hey, that’s just me...

 

[Bricklayer]

For me it means entirely new basketball philosophy, defensively oriented and probably with new coach....slow down and play half court offense?...possible only if we trade brad with peja for decent low post 7 footer and defensive oriented animal.....however, I think petrie is not ready for such reconstruction.....me personally don't like grab/hold/slow/boring/duncan game but hey, that’s just me...

That's silly. Ignoring for he moment the question of whether slowing down might lead to victory (it does -- you HAVE to be able to win the halfcourt wars no matter how pretty you are at heart), Peja is NOT the key to not slowing down anymore. You may have missed it, but we just acquired 2 more 15-20ppg scorers this offseason, that is MORE than enough offense to keep on scoring at a pace fast enoguh to satisfy even the most highlight reel addicted Kings fan. At this point if we lost Peja for NOTHING we'd still score 100ppg. Let alone for an Andrei Kirlenko or whoever.

 

[starks]

That's silly. Ignoring for he moment the question of whether slowing down might lead to victory (it does -- you HAVE to be able to win the halfcourt wars no matter how pretty you are at heart), Peja is NOT the key to not slowing down anymore. You may have missed it, but we just acquired 2 more 15-20ppg scorers this offseason, that is MORE than enough offense to keep on scoring at a pace fast enoguh to satisfy even the most highlight reel addicted Kings fan. At this point if we lost Peja for NOTHING we'd still score 100ppg. Let alone for an Andrei Kirlenko or whoever.

Silly? Why?....I mean, you are trying to be sarcastic or what (two 15-20ppg scorers)?....My point is if you trade peja or any of three core players (biby/brad) with more athletic defensive oriented player and with THREE new player in the starting line-up the style and character of kings' game will be changed.....how?....who knows..

 

[Vlad]

whatever.

Next.

 

[loopymitch]

Was there supposed to be a point here?

 

[JonBoy418]

http://nbablogger.tripod.com/nba/index.blog?entry_id=1236308

Just look at the source and that spells everything out...

a blogger wrote this, pure opinion with little (if any) fact. Or at least true facts.


For all we know Isiah Thomas could have written this.

 

[Packt]

Silly? Why?....I mean, you are trying to be sarcastic or what (two 15-20ppg scorers)?....My point is if you trade peja or any of three core players (biby/brad) with more athletic defensive oriented player and with THREE new player in the starting line-up the style and character of kings' game will be changed.....how?....who knows..

Trading Peja for someone comparable isn't going to change the team anymore than it already has changed.

 

[Padrino]

Trading Peja for someone comparable isn't going to change the team anymore than it already has changed.

actually...it could change things dramatically. the kings are going into this season with a mindset that peja stojakovic is going to be the number one scoring option for the team. with the starting 5 that we have, i have to believe scoring will be pretty damn balanced, but peja is definitely going to be viewed as the number one option. whether anybody thinks he's up to the task or not is irrelevant. if we were to trade peja, the [offensive] dynamics would change quite a bit. i doubt volume of shots would decrease all that much, and scoring itself would probably remain steady, because we have so many scoring options, but the team dynamic would change quite a bit, expecially if we could get a defensive minded player in return for peja. at one time, i was completely against a peja-artest trade, and now that it seems more unlikely than ever, i find it more and more appealing.

 

[kingsfan916]

WHAT A you know what!

 

[Packt]

actually...it could change things dramatically. the kings are going into this season with a mindset that peja stojakovic is going to be the number one scoring option for the team. with the starting 5 that we have, i have to believe scoring will be pretty damn balanced, but peja is definitely going to be viewed as the number one option. whether anybody thinks he's up to the task or not is irrelevant. if we were to trade peja, the [offensive] dynamics would change quite a bit. i doubt volume of shots would decrease all that much, and scoring itself would probably remain steady, because we have so many scoring options, but the team dynamic would change quite a bit, expecially if we could get a defensive minded player in return for peja. at one time, i was completely against a peja-artest trade, and now that it seems more unlikely than ever, i find it more and more appealing.

I feel the team has already changed dramatically. Moving Peja, or any of the three mentioned, will just be a continuance of what has happened in the past season.

 

[VF21]

Teams change. Dynamics change. Chemistry changes. Fans change.

The only thing that doesn't change is that change happens.