Fandemonium

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Fandemonium, although unchanged in format from last year's, was fun. There was fan access to all players in the concourse area, taking tickets, serving refreshments, or just wandering about.

Lots of athleticism in camp on display in the 12-minute scrimmage, including our two star rookies, Kevin Martin and Ricky Minard.

The highlight of the event was Kingsgurl's meeting with Kevin Martin. Check out the big hug she got from K-Mart.
 

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WHOOOO!

...

Okay, everybody sing along:

I'm so excited,
And I just can't hide it.
I'm about to lose control
And I think I like it!!!




It's almost time for some basketball!!!

GO KINGS!!!

And thanks for the pics, 1kingzfan!
 
#5
Are you sure that's not Doug Christie? HA!

Yea, I know it's old, but the similarity is uncanny, especially when I saw him up close today.

And the highlight of my night was when Chris accidentally dumped a load of popcorn on my head when he was passing it out. I'll never forget that, Webbhead. :)

Oh yea, and another thing. I noticed that there was a lot of love going on between Webb and Peja. They were embracing each other a lot at times, especially during the half-court shooting. All the laughing between them couldn't help but evoke thoughts of an extremely devious ploy that the entire locker room hatched up to harden the image of the team. Could all of the issues over the summer have been some conspiracy to establish Webber as the leader of an edgier team? Or am I just over analyzing a few candid moments on the court? Should I stop asking so many questions? How is everyone doing tonight?
 
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PT Cruiser 9ROC said:
Are you sure that's not Doug Christie? HA!

Yea, I know it's old, but the similarity is uncanny, especially when I saw him up close today.

And the highlight of my night was when Chris accidentally dumped a load of popcorn on my head when he was passing it out. I'll never forget that, Webbhead. :)

Oh yea, and another thing. I noticed that there was a lot of love going on between Webb and Peja. They were embracing each other a lot at times, especially during the half-court shooting. All the laughing between them couldn't help but evoke thoughts of an extremely devious ploy that the entire locker room hatched up to harden the image of the team. Could all of the issues over the summer have been some conspiracy to establish Webber as the leader of an edgier team? Or am I just over analyzing a few candid moments on the court? Should I stop asking so many questions? How is everyone doing tonight?
Wow, you are so lucky to have been there and seen/ met the players. It's good to see that there is still love between Peja and Webber and I hope that puts an end to this ridiculous feud that the media has simply overhyped, Man, I can't wait for the season to start. Go Kings!!!!!!!!!!! woot woot
 
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next news involving Webb & Peja: the "love" is romantic!

;)

on a serious note, i envy you guys. hope i can go meet'em upclose & personal when they play in China this week but of course security would be damn tight & i hope my friend can get us w/ some of his contacts a backstage pass. :)
 
#10
Wow, talk about envy....C4, you're going to be in China (or already in China)??

I can only imagine how intense the atmosphere would be in an arena welcoming the most famous man from a country of about 2 billion people. Good luck with that.

And yeah, if it weren't for a few minor details about Chris and Peja's personal lives (i.e., Peja being engaged and having a newborn daughter) then I would've been on this board proclaiming that the pair had finally come out of the closet...j/k
 
#12
I think the highlight of the evening was the scrimmage. Especially, Kevin Martin...guys were throwing him alley-oops on the left side, the right side, off the glass, and he dunked everyone of them with ease. Looks like we have a new Gerald Wallace ..but this time he can "shoot"!!
 
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PT Cruiser 9ROC said:
I can only imagine how intense the atmosphere would be in an arena welcoming the most famous man from a country of about 2 billion people. Good luck with that.

And yeah, if it weren't for a few minor details about Chris and Peja's personal lives (i.e., Peja being engaged and having a newborn daughter) then I would've been on this board proclaiming that the pair had finally come out of the closet...j/k
Peja has a son not a daughter..lol


Glad you had fun PT... Hoping next year I can go.
 
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NBAGURU said:
I think the highlight of the evening was the scrimmage. Especially, Kevin Martin...guys were throwing him alley-oops on the left side, the right side, off the glass, and he dunked everyone of them with ease. Looks like we have a new Gerald Wallace ..but this time he can "shoot"!!
Now thats something I like to hear!:D
 
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There were some great interviews over the radio at Fandimonium last night.. Reina were you able or are you able to transcribe them? The Tag interview was halarius! There was a Peja and Marty Mac interview as well.
 
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PT Cruiser 9ROC said:
Oh yea, and another thing. I noticed that there was a lot of love going on between Webb and Peja. They were embracing each other a lot at times, especially during the half-court shooting. All the laughing between them couldn't help but evoke thoughts of an extremely devious ploy that the entire locker room hatched up to harden the image of the team. Could all of the issues over the summer have been some conspiracy to establish Webber as the leader of an edgier team? Or am I just over analyzing a few candid moments on the court? Should I stop asking so many questions? How is everyone doing tonight?
Glad to hear there was lots of love going on between those two. I really didn't want to spend watching upcoming season with Pedja and Chris being at eachother's throats.
 
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slugking50 said:
There were some great interviews over the radio at Fandimonium last night.. Reina were you able or are you able to transcribe them? The Tag interview was halarius! There was a Peja and Marty Mac interview as well.
Ok, I'm getting a little predictable... except this time it wansn't me. I made my cousin do it while I went and had some fun ;) It (fandemonium) sounded and looked great from what I was able to hear and see on the TV reports and such :). I'll post the interviews later today
 
#18
I can't wait to hear the interviews. Thanks, ReinadelosReys!!! :)

Sounds like it was lots of fun! Glad you were able to meet and hug Kevin, Kingsgurl!

Thanks for the pics, 1kingzfan! And thanks for Brad's pic, Freak!
 
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Me too;) Sweet kid. I showed him the Mock draft where I picked him for the Kings, which, of course he said was a damn fine pick:D I have a bunch of pretty good pics, will try to get some of them up later.
 
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http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/11029376p-11946299c.html

Kings notes: Fandemonium: It's all about fun



By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PDT Saturday, October 9, 2004


It's a good thing there were no legitimate basketball officials around Arco Arena on Friday night because there was some serious skullduggery going on during the free-agent/rookie scrimmage portion of Fandemonium, the annual interactive introduction to Kings basketball.



On a night when fun is placed above all else, two teams coached respectively by Bobby Jackson and Peja Stojakovic on one side, and Chris Webber on the other, ran up and down the floor running a couple of plays here and there. The obvious flashes of cash on the court appeared to result in some bogus points going in each direction.

Mostly, though, they displayed their athleticism with a procession of alley-oop attempts that only could have resulted in indigestion for coach Rick Adelman.


Coaches are like that.

Then there were the referees, Brad Miller and Mike Bibby. Miller, wearing an officials shirt four sizes too small, covered a 20-foot area like a glove and with the quickness of one, too.

Bibby, whose shirt was only two sizes too small, got a chance to sit courtside with some fans. Bibby even ate a little bit of their munchies, while Miller sat on the scorers' table across the court.

For the record, Webber's "Black" team defeated the Jackson-Stojakovic "White" team 36-35. Rookie guard Tony Bland led all scorers with 16 points for the Black squad, while second-round draft choice Ricky Minard and former Del Campo High star Matt Barnes each scored 11 for the White team.

First-round pick Kevin Martin said the scrimmage was fun.

"It was a little different," Martin said, "but it was fun. I got a chance to play with the other rookies and free agents and try to please the fans."

Martin said the Western Carolina arena in which he played in college seated approximately 7,500.

"I think there were more fans here (Friday night) than we'd had while I was in college," he said.

Webber, Jackson coach kids, too - After two very suspect coaching jobs with the rookies and free agents, Webber and Jackson moved on to the real deal. They coached two teams of children, who ran up and down the court and supplied the fans with oohs and aahs at each end with every shot attempt, no matter how amusing.

Although the children clearly had fun, it was Jackson and Webber who seemed to enjoy themselves the most.
 
#23
Fun guy but obsessed with the cowebll --Greg Ostertag

Talk on how Tag ran over his foot one time

Lam: So this isn't the first time this type of stuff happened?

Tag: The big thing for me is hitting my head on the door. I know the door is there...

Football talk...Grant and Tag make a bet on the Cowboy/Giants game

Grant: How are you a Cowboys fan...C'mon man

Tag: Look I go back...when they where 1-15, still a Cowboy fan and when they won the super bowl...and they have won more than the 49ners

Grant: As a kid you were a cowboy's fan?

Tag: Robert Newhouse etc....

Grant: Wow

More football talk

Grant: talk about the broken hand

Tag: It absolutely sucks. Saturday morning I had a good practice, excited about how it went, ready to go the next day and just a freak thing man. I got up- I've been getting a lot of crap about having a remote to but to turn the TV off and there was a foot stool, I knew it was there and I kicked it. I started falling, in the dark, I started to look for something to grab and I held my self up with my middle finger and it just couldn't hold the weight and it snapped that bone

Lam: So it happened in the dark looking for--

Tag: No going back to bed..it was off

Grant: Now you didn't have surgery on that did you?

Tag: Nah, I didn't

Grant: So what are you thinking, what it your target date?

Tag: I'm pushing, if everything goes right, I'm trying to stay in shape, best I can for in the opener, in Dallas

Grant: Really?

Tag: Yeah that's pushing it, but if everything works out hopefully.

Grant: Now can you do a lot of stuff for conditioning or do you have to wait a little bit

Tag: No, no,no no..... I’ve been on the God-danged bike...and Al's dang step ladder thing get on the floor and run. No that's the one thing that sucks about breaking your hand, your feet still work! (LOL)

Talk with the Kings equipment manager

Tag: This is what I do, I just drop in and give my two cents

Talk about the Oklahoma Texas game

Lam: Is it what you expected out of this group when you signed with Sacramento..has it met or exceeded your expectations? Tell me your first impression

Tag: Well coming in, I knew the guys on the court, you know playing against them. To be honest with you, I didn't like them; I didn't like any of them. I didn't like Chris, didn't like Peja, didn't like Brad; I didn't like any of them. But you know you kinda have to change that. But now getting to know them all, the coolest bunch of guys I've been around in a while. I'm not saying my teammates last year weren't cool, but its so laid back here and everybody so...you know whatever. You want to do this, go ahead. But when it comes business time, these guys get ready to play and get after it. I've watched them in practice a bit, that first group when they're out there they know what they're doing and they run the other team.

Grant: What about coming to a city where they just loved to get on you, you were not a well liked guy here and now you are going to where the Kings colors. That's quite a transition isn't it?

Tag: You know it is. But its almost the same colors, the only colors that different is the black colors...To be honest with you, for me it was a love-hate relationship coming here. I loved to come here because I really adored the crowd because...that dang cowbell back there...Oh my God! I'm going to have to have them just come ring it in my ear down here so I can feel like home.
 
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Grant needs someone to challenge him without getting called a moron-Marty McNeal

Grant: You know its interesting to me...a lot of people that cover the NBA are picking the Kings not even to be a playoff team this year...

Marty: No I don't think that's true. I think everything I've read has them...in the top 10 at least.

Grant: Well that's what I mean, top 10 don’t get you in the playoffs

Marty: No I mean top 10 in the league

Grant: Steve Kerr picked them top 10 in the West, there was another publication that had the Kings 8th in the West...Steve Kerr's just one person, but there are enough people who cover this sport who'll think they'll drop significantly. I think they'll drop a little bit, but I don't think they'll drop to # 10 in the West

Marty: No I would seriously seriously doubt that. That's a series of injuries even beyond my imagination...and I've seen almost every injury possible covering this team the last 4-5 yrs. I think they are going to be one of the top 2-3 team in the West, one of the top 2-3-4 team in the league

Lam: Do you think this team is going to better than last year, worse and why?

Marty: Given good health I think they are going to be close to what they were last year-I mean well, it depends on what part of last year you're talking about--

Lam: First part

Marty: The team that makes it the WCF semi-finals, I certainly think they are capable of getting there again. If you think about the Kings, their core is one of the most talented and experienced. The Kings story never changes. Can they play impact type manner when the game in on the line, when the season is on the line, can they stay healthy enough to have all their people? It never changes

Grant: You're right. The bottom line is they have to be healthy in the playoffs, and they haven't done that the last 3 years...Then again lets be honest with Chris Webber.... you just don't know

Marty: Well I'm not assuming he's going to play 60 games. The guy played 23 out of 24 last year when his knee was in far worse condition than it is now. Certainly you had 65 games to that; it makes it more grueling. But you can't look at a team and factor in injury. I always look a team, if they're healthy and they play there best what can they be. The thing is, I was talking with Joe Maloof the other day and we counted off 10 teams that I thought were capable of making the playoffs if they had a good year...There are a lot of good teams out there, but I just think with the Kings, their core is as good as anyone in the team, if not better than 95%

Lam: I talk a lot about the interview you did with Chris (no really?)..What were your thoughts getting the answers? Was this a guy at ease with himself, or was he hostile towards the team...?

Marty: Webb speaks softly, you have to chase his mouth with the microphone and he didn't change with this situation. He was calm and thoughtful. Collected, very comfortable with what he was saying. There were times when he got heated--I don't know if I'd say heated, passionate. He was a guy who was very comfortable with what he was saying and recognized the fact that he was putting pressure on himself...and he was comfortable with that. I kept telling him, all of these words will come back to you at some point in time and he's like "Hey I'm not--

Grant: He's never been afraid of that, though. You know he speaks his mind, he doesn't care about that. But one thing he has, he may not put pressure on him self, but he put pressure on himself from the fans. I think the fans may be a lot less lenient this team. You may say what am I talking about they booed him last year, but that was a very small minority....but the reality is if Chris plays badly for a stretch, that is A-typical of him, you're going to see a lot of people booing. I think that's what that article did...

Marty: Hey that's cool. I mean he's grown. If you say you can handle it, then you have to handle it whatever way it comes. The guy is 31 yrs old, I don't think--

Grant: Well I don't know if he can handle it, if he gets that bothered by a few people booing him what's going to happened when you got 10,000 people booing him...

Marty: Well I didn't see him play worse as a result of people booing him. I think if you took Webber statistics last year in an abbreviated season and took out maybe 4 terrible games he had, he probably shot close to 50%. So he had some unusually bad game and they were really bad games. It was an instance where the coach didn't come to save him, he left him out there to continue to struggle and that went bad. ..I think you got to be able to deal with what you bring on yourself that’s just life. He's an adult. If you think about it who has brought more dumb stuff on themselves than him? If he says he can handle it, I think he can. He's been through more than people booing him that’s for sure. (My thoughts exactly)

Lam: In your opinion, why did Peja ask to be traded?

Marty: I think Peja's feelings got hurt at some point in time during the course of last season. I don't really don't believe it was what Chris had to say in his article. I've got some things to back that up that I can't speak on because I haven't written it yet...At some point in time Peja's feelings got hurt and his agent recognized that this would be a perfect opportunity to make move, this would be the time to cease the opportunity. I really believe his agent was behind Peja's saying he wants to get out of here. He may have been partially persuaded by his agent laying down scenarios to him and also the fact that I think he got his feelings hurt. But really that's really here nor there, I work with a couple of people, man, that I could go to someone and be like look, I can't stand these people I want to be traded right now. If I could do that and it work I'd do it. ....You got to work with people you don't like sometimes...that's part it. (Marty, you're on a roll)

Grant: As long as it doesn't affect your performance

Marty: Well you're not supposed to allow it to affect your performance. That's what a professional does and especially one that's making 7 mil. Hey, I could be working with you everyday for 7 mil!
 
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The (radio)voice of the Kings-The G-man, Gary Gerould

Koz: Does it feel like 20 years in Sacramento?

Gary: I guess it is. In a lot respects, it does feel like just a few years ago when we were in the temporary building that Greg Lukenbill put up and there was a excitement like this city, I don't know, even in the playoff run in recent years... if the excitement matched what we saw in the first couple of years the Kings were in Sacramento. It was really unique. I guess when you hit a 20 years its kind of a milestone in that sense, so you think about some of those things. Yeah, there were a lot of struggles in some of those early years. A lot of people forget that the very first year the Kings were in Sacramento they made the playoffs. They got swept by Houston in 3, but they did make it. And it was an intriguing bunch of guys, Benny Johnson, Reggie Theus, Mike Woodson, Larry Drew and Mark Olberding and people like that made it a lot of fun to watch the Kings battle the other powers in the NBA.

Koz: Everyone talks about how great it is now to come to Sacramento and play in Arco Arena and play in front of these great fans, when the NBA first came here and you were here seeing these games, was there a learning curve for the fans

Gary: Absolutely. For announcers, for media, I think for everybody involved. You got to learn the personnel, the rules, and the nuisances of the game. I think what impressed me, I think a lasting impression of those early years was how many women I have had tell me over the years, 'you know when the Kings first came to Sacramento the only reason I went was because my husband went.' And then after 2 or 3 years they suddenly found out that they were learning the game, they were loving it, they were loving the personalities. They were becoming absolute red-hot basketball fans! That's always stuck with me and I've always thought, you knows that's a great part of the growing process for the game that's introduced to an unlikely group that maybe think I have no interest in this and they're here now being rabid long time Kings fans.

Koz: There is a generation of fans that grew up learning the game from you, do you have people come up and say I have enjoyed it for 20 years?

Gary: I don't think people talk about how many years so much, as, I had a guy just yesterday say I grew up listening to you call Kings games. I thought, that's cool, I hope you like the game. I hope you like the experience. In our mind I don't think we think of ourselves getting older, we all of course do, and I know I'm starting to get up in the upper end of this thing now. It really is exciting. Its great to come into this building on a night, were you have 10-12,000 people and they're enjoying it and they're encouraging these little kids getting their moment to be coached by Chris Webber and Bobby Jackson. That's what makes the NBA experience,the Maloof Sports and Entertainment experience what it is in Sacramento. Don't ever let it go away-don't ever let it go away.

Koz: I think this is part of the specialty, and in fact G-man, that girl right there, "She's got the bucket"...And there are a great group of little kids here, Bobby Jackson coaching one of the teams, Chris with the other. I think that's part of the relationship. These guys are like little kids on some level-in a good fashion.

Gary: I think so many times we all as sports fans get caught up with how much money they make and one thing or another...We forget that they are human beings. We forget that there's a lot of little kid left in these guys even in if that are in their mid 20's or early 30's or whatever. This is the kind of night that you see it. I think this one of the kind of things that's made Sacramento 's NBA presence very special over the years because there's always been this kind of feeling and this kind of sharing with the fans.

Talk about China

Koz: Is this year as wide open in the West as you can remember or are there teams that you think are head and shoulders above the rest?

Gary: No I don't have a real good feel because it is early. I want to say its wide open...Its not going to be an easy road. I think that's what intrigues me with this new cast of characters with Rick Aldeman, Geoff Petrie and the Maloofs. See what they could put together and can you get a DC healthy in time. That's the beauty of preseason, everybodys undefeated, speculation is ramped, everybodys made a lot of changes. I think the days of rosters staying the same are long gone with the way FA is set up and salary cap etc...Its going to be fun how it shapes up.

Koz: That makes Sacramento so unique in that there some core players here...You got a Peja entering his 7th year and a Chris Webber... you don't get to see guys that long in one city. I think these fans have been treated to some pretty exciting stuff

Gary: The last 6 years, I don't know if Rick Aldeman gets enough credit for what he has done. I just think if you look at the record...its very impressive in my mind. I think sometimes people need to stop and take a good hard look at that. It’s easy for everyone to get greedy. Its easy for expectations to get a little out of wack, but as we say so many times, to win a championship, A) You got to be good, B) You to be lucky C) You got to be healthy. It’s a lot tougher than a lot of people think. The fact that this team has been as a contender, I love it. It makes the experience enjoyable... How many years I used to tell visiting broadcasters coming to Arco just because they were on a club that on any given night when they walked in to an arena they had a chance to win. Well, in the last couple of years the Sacramento Kings have been on that side of the fence and I like that a lot.
 
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ReinadelosReys said:
Marty: You got to work with people you don't like sometimes...that part it.

Grant: As long as it doesn't affect your performance

Marty: ... Hey, I could be working with you everyday for 7 mil!
:D :D
 

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Marty: I think Peja's feelings got hurt at some point in time during the course of last season. I don't really don't believe it was what Chris had to say in his article. I've got some things to back that up that I can't speak on because I haven't written it yet...At some point in time Peja's feelings got hurt and his agent recognized that this would be a perfect opportunity to make move, this would be the time to cease the opportunity. I really believe his agent was behind Peja's saying he wants to get out of here. He may have been partially persuaded by his agent laying down scenarios to him and also the fact that I think he got his feelings hurt. But really that's really here nor there, I work with a couple of people, man, that I could go to someone and be like look, I can't stand these people I want to be traded right now. If I could do that and it work I'd do it. ....You got to work with people you don't like sometimes...that's part it. (Marty, you're on a roll)
And my theory is somewhat vindicated - I've said all along I thought Peja's agent was at least partially responsible. I certainly hope Marty is able to shed more light on the situation in the article he appears to be writing for future publication.

:D

P.S. Thanks, Reina!!!
 
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ReinadelosReys said:
Talk on how Tag ran over his foot one time

Lam: So this isn't the first time this type of stuff happened?

Tag: The big thing for me is hitting my head on the door. I know the door is there...

Football talk...Grant and Tag make a bet on the Cowboy/Giants game

Grant: How are you a Cowboys fan...C'mon man

Tag: Look I go back...when they where 1-15, still a Cowboy fan and when they won the super bowl...and they have won more than the 49ners

Grant: As a kid you were a cowboy's fan?

Tag: Robert Newhouse etc....

Grant: Wow

More football talk

Grant: talk about the broken hand

Tag: It absolutely sucks. Saturday morning I had a good practice, excited about how it went, ready to go the next day and just a freak thing man. I got up- I've been getting a lot of crap about having a remote to but to turn the TV off and there was a foot stool, I knew it was there and I kicked it. I started falling, in the dark, I started to look for something to grab and I held my self up with my middle finger and it just couldn't hold the weight and it snapped that bone

Lam: So it happened in the dark looking for--

Tag: No going back to bed..it was off

Grant: Now you didn't have surgery on that did you?

Tag: Nah, I didn't

Grant: So what are you thinking, what it your target date?

Tag: I'm pushing, if everything goes right, I'm trying to stay in shape, best I can for in the opener, in Dallas

Grant: Really?

Tag: Yeah that's pushing it, but if everything works out hopefully.

Grant: Now can you do a lot of stuff for conditioning or do you have to wait a little bit

Tag: No, no,no no..... I’ve been on the God-danged bike...and Al's dang step ladder thing get on the floor and run. No that's the one thing that sucks about breaking your hand, your feet still work! (LOL)

Talk with the Kings equipment manager

Tag: This is what I do, I just drop in and give my two cents

Talk about the Oklahoma Texas game

Lam: Is it what you expected out of this group when you signed with Sacramento..has it met or exceeded your expectations? Tell me your first impression

Tag: Well coming in, I knew the guys on the court, you know playing against them. To be honest with you, I didn't like them; I didn't like any of them. I didn't like Chris, didn't like Peja, didn't like Brad; I didn't like any of them. But you know you kinda have to change that. But now getting to know them all, the coolest bunch of guys I've been around in a while. I'm not saying my teammates last year weren't cool, but its so laid back here and everybody so...you know whatever. You want to do this, go ahead. But when it comes business time, these guys get ready to play and get after it. I've watched them in practice a bit, that first group when they're out there they know what they're doing and they run the other team.

Grant: What about coming to a city where they just loved to get on you, you were not a well liked guy here and now you are going to where the Kings colors. That's quite a transition isn't it?

Tag: You know it is. But its almost the same colors, the only colors that different is the black colors...To be honest with you, for me it was a love-hate relationship coming here. I loved to come here because I really adored the crowd because...that dang cowbell back there...Oh my God! I'm going to have to have them just come ring it in my ear down here so I can feel like home.
Thanks Reina but you forgot the last line of tags. "I'll get out of here and let you 2 morons enjoy yourselves":p