ESPN: Browns' Tucker violates NFL steroid policy

[zip95843]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2959887

BEREA, Ohio -- Browns offensive tackle Ryan Tucker was suspended Friday for the first four games of the season for violating the NFL's steroid policy.
Tucker, one of Cleveland's leaders on the field and in the locker room, missed part of last season with what the team called a "mental disorder." He says he is now healthy and is eligible to return to the roster Oct. 1, one day after the Browns host the Baltimore Ravens.

Yeah, I see, NFL is seriously cracking up on steroids use....

 

[uolj]

You realize that four games is the equivalent of a 40 game suspension in baseball, right?

 

[zip95843]

You realize that four games is the equivalent of a 40 game suspension in baseball, right?

I thought four games it's like 4 weeks, which is actually like 24 games in baseball

 

[zip95843]

But what I'm interesting to hear is cry of outrage, names calling, putting asterisks and stripping records from the books.

 

[uolj]

I don't think Tucker set any records, he's pretty much a nobody. But when Shawne Merriman was suspended for steroids, there were cries of outrage, name calling, etc. And instead of an asterisk next to the Defensive Player of the Year award he would have won based on his performance, the award was given to somebody else because the voters thought he didn't deserve it after testing positive for steroids.

And four games is 4/16th of the NFL season, which is why it is the same as 40 games (out of 162) in baseball.

 

[zip95843]

I don't think Tucker set any records, he's pretty much a nobody. But when Shawne Merriman was suspended for steroids, there were cries of outrage, name calling, etc. And instead of an asterisk next to the Defensive Player of the Year award he would have won based on his performance, the award was given to somebody else because the voters thought he didn't deserve it after testing positive for steroids.

And four games is 4/16th of the NFL season, which is why it is the same as 40 games (out of 162) in baseball.

He helped Rams win Super Bowl. Should we take it away?

 

[uolj]

No. Why would you want to do that?

 

[zip95843]

No. Why would you want to do that?

I don't know. Because of outrage maybe? He's cheated and we are all for purity of the game.

 

[uolj]

We live in the real world where cheating unfortunately happens. Nobody has taken away the A's world series victory because of Canseco's steroid use. When Bonds breaks Aaron's record it will still go into the record books. Selig is going to the Giants' games to watch when the record falls. This is what the sports world is right now.

As far as outrage and disappointment go, I'm pretty sure it applies to all sports that have been tainted by performance enhancinng drugs.

Sorry, but Bonds just isn't getting a raw deal.

 

[zip95843]

We live in the real world where cheating unfortunately happens. Nobody has taken away the A's world series victory because of Canseco's steroid use. When Bonds breaks Aaron's record it will still go into the record books. Selig is going to the Giants' games to watch when the record falls. This is what the sports world is right now.

As far as outrage and disappointment go, I'm pretty sure it applies to all sports that have been tainted by performance enhancinng drugs.

Sorry, but Bonds just isn't getting a raw deal.

I agree with the most of what you are saying except the last line. I've never seen any other athlete in US that get so trashed and hated when he is not even legally accused of wrongdoing! And I looking to this I firmly beleive that steroids issue is the excuse people have to hate the guy more "openly".

Sorry for the off-topic. Let's get back to the issue of hating and trashing Tucker.

 

[uolj]

More outrage and disappointment is leveled at Bonds because of the record he is about to break and the other record he already has. His perceived personality makes things worse, but really it is just because he is breaking the most important record in all of baseball.

Everybody accused of, suspected of, or caught doing steroids is treated the same, it is all just relative to how much impact they've had on their sport. As I said before, if it was McGwire breaking Aaron's record the response would be almost the same.

I don't care nor know enough about Tucker for me to do anything other than dismiss him. As a Giants fan and a baseball fan I cannot do that with Bonds.

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't know. Because of outrage maybe? He's cheated and we are all for purity of the game.

Cutting to the chase, the NFL dealt with this issue a long long time ago (late 80's I believe when they started testing) rather than letting scum cheat their way into the record books. They catch them, suspend them 1/4 of the season, and then if they do it again I think they lose a whole season + have to apply for reinstatement (could be a bit off on the second punsihment, but its severe). And good for them.

And yes, if Emmit Smith had tested positive a year before passing Payton's record this would be a huge deal. A selfish old **** trampling on the game and the records of far better men.

 

[uolj]

In your hypothetical, even if Emmitt Smith hadn't tested positive but instead had the mountain of circumstantial evidence that Bonds has surrounding him, then it would be a huge deal.

In fact, I'd say the fact that there has been no conviction or positive test makes the situation worse for Bonds.

 

[VF21]

Oh, this is rich.

This isn't about Bonds, it isn't about baseball. It's about the NFL continuing their policy of anti-steroids use.

If people want to argue about Tucker, fine. But if you're going to try and resurrect the Bonds argument, it ain't gonna fly.

 

[uolj]

Oh, this is rich.

This isn't about Bonds, it isn't about baseball. It's about the NFL continuing their policy of anti-steroids use.

If people want to argue about Tucker, fine. But if you're going to try and resurrect the Bonds argument, it ain't gonna fly.

I think that was the whole point of the article being posted.

 

[VF21]

I thought four games it's like 4 weeks, which is actually like 24 games in baseball

The regular NFL season is 16 games. Four games, therefore, is 25% of the season. Baseball plays 160 games, right? So that would be the equivalent, as already stated, as 40 games.

BTW? I've closed this thread...