Don Nelson to coach Warriors

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Sources: Nelson to return to Warriors as coach

By Marc Stein
ESPN.com

http://log.go.com/log?srvc=sz&guid=...PN_ROS_146x46_Football_Switch_30Day150Signing



Don Nelson will be named as the new coach of the Golden State Warriors this week after the Warriors agreed to terms on a buyout with Mike Montgomery.
Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that things are "all lined up" for Nelson, 66, to return to the Warriors, who haven't been to the playoffs since 1994 when Nelson was still their coach.
Montgomery had two seasons left on his contract worth an estimated $5 million.
Senior writer Marc Stein covers the NBA for ESPN.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2565022
 
I'm surprised. I thought Nelson left on very bad terms with the Warriors' owners- IIRC, he sued them after he was let go the last time. They must've decided not to enter the Oden sweepstakes, at least not intentionally.

This makes the Warriors look much better. Besides Diogu, the current roster looks well suited for a system under Nelly. They have some young developing Euro big men, and I think they'll work out better under Nelly.
 
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i think the mavs were an entertaining team to watch under nelson, offensively. if he's able to recreate something like that with the warriors, then good for them and it should be fun to watch. but since he is more offensive-minded, the warriors shouldn't be a real threat to the kings.

this is good; we'll need all the help we can get.
 
Iffy move here.

Well, aside from not having the roster, this move obviousy doesn't improve their defense or toughness. Warriors still aren't gonna be good or that relevant, but at least they'll have a more experienced coach, and probably get more wins to some degree than the past two seasons under Montgomery.

Why Mario Elie wasn't given the head coaching job is a surprise to me. With his position in the organization, rumored to be the next guy in line, and looking for a head coaching spot for the past couple seasons. Along with having a good approach to the game.
 
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Much as I did not think Nelson made sense here while I still thought we were trying to make another title push, this is a good move for the Warriors. If nothing else, Nellie will unleash the hounds and health permitting instantly makes that team yet another WC team with a shot at the playoffs. Of course only 8 can make it, and 3 of the 8 are more or less guaranteed, so it may not be enough. But the Warriors just got more dangerous.
 
Kings113 said:
"the Warriors just got more dangerous" - haha
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Yeah, "haha" indeed.

I always chuckle when the punching bag in our division replaces a fumbling college coach with a guy with 1148 career wins and 17 playoff seasons. :rolleyes:

If I'm the Spurs playing for a title, I'm not worried in the least. If I'm a bubble playoff team, the last thing I want is more competition. The big question now becomes can he reach Dunleavy to create Run TMC jr.?
 
Bricklayer said:
Much as I did not think Nelson made sense here while I still thought we were trying to make another title push, this is a good move for the Warriors. If nothing else, Nellie will unleash the hounds and health permitting instantly makes that team yet another WC team with a shot at the playoffs. Of course only 8 can make it, and 3 of the 8 are more or less guaranteed, so it may not be enough. But the Warriors just got more dangerous.
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I think it's only a good move and the Warriors are much better because of who is on the way out. Montgomery was another failure bridging to the pros from school; a completely underwhelming performance especially last year's collapse. Nellie is as predictable as the sunrise. Agreed the Warriors have a shot at playoffs - I think they'll grab a spot.
 
Bricklayer said:
Yeah, "haha" indeed.

I always chuckle when the punching bag in our division replaces a fumbling college coach with a guy with 1148 career wins and 17 playoff seasons.

If I'm the Spurs playing for a title, I'm not worried in the least. If I'm a bubble playoff team, the last thing I want is more competition. The big question now becomes can he reach Dunleavy to create Run TMC jr.?
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I wasn't chuckling at the coaching move, Brick. I was chuckling at the Warriors being more, dangerous now. I highly doubt it, and with Warriors situation, that just isn't legit to me at all.

As I said, they will be better because of getting Nelson and who he is. In the general sense? Not significantly.

Sure, they have a good chance to be, and probably will be, in the usual dog-fight around 8-10 spots. But, I don't like their "shot", to win that fight. With the Jazz (if they're not healthy again and scrapping like last season), Nuggets, Hornets (though I think they'll be above the dog-fight as a 7th or maybe 6th seed), Lakers, Grizzlies, Wolves, Sonics (I'd say they'd be a loser) all possibly involved as well.
 
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Plenty of good coaches have come and gone in the last 13 years for the Warriors, and no one has made a difference. I really fail to see how Don Nelson is going to make a difference.

Every year people say, "the Warriors are going to be dangerous" and "this is the year they'll turn the corner." And every year comes by and they still suck.

They still have a chucker at point guard (who is injured most of the time), Mike Dunleavy (big lol at Brick suggesting that Don Nelson might "reach him"), and Adonal Foyle at center. And no bench. With or without Don Nelson they're still going to suck.
 
nbrans said:
Plenty of good coaches have come and gone in the last 13 years for the Warriors, and no one has made a difference. I really fail to see how Don Nelson is going to make a difference.

Every year people say, "the Warriors are going to be dangerous" and "this is the year they'll turn the corner." And every year comes by and they still suck.

They still have a chucker at point guard (who is injured most of the time), Mike Dunleavy (big lol at Brick suggesting that Don Nelson might "reach him") and Adonal Foyle at center. And no bench. With or without Don Nelson they're still going to suck.
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Gotta agree there.
 
Good good move for this team. I think the roster perfectly fits the way Nellie wants to play. They could be a playoff team after this move.
 
nbrans said:
Plenty of good coaches have come and gone in the last 13 years for the Warriors, and no one has made a difference. I really fail to see how Don Nelson is going to make a difference.
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You do realize who was the coach the last time they WERE dangerous do you not? We routinely date the descent of the Warriors into Clipperesque hell from the date that Don Nelson left the franchise. Now he has come back, and with his ex player as the GM too. Odd indeed to ignore the obvious possibilities there.

Don Nelson doesn't win titles. IMO never will. But Don Nelson has repeatedly taken down and out franchises and made them into annual playoff teams. There is a lot of talent on that Golden State roster, and there have been very few coaches in NBA history better at tapping diverse talent than Don Nelson. As mentioned, if you are an elite team Don Nelson returning to the league is a mere curiosity. If you're a team fighting for a playoff spot, its possible things just got a little tougher.
 
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Kings113 said:
I wasn't chuckling at the coaching move, Brick. I was chuckling at the Warriors being more, dangerous now. I highly doubt it, and with Warriors situation, that just isn't legit to me at all.

As I said, they will be better because of getting Nelson and who he is. In the general sense? Not significantly.

Sure, they have a good chance to be, and probably will be, in the usual dog-fight around 8-10 spots. But, I don't like their "shot", to win that fight. With the Jazz (if they're not healthy again and scrapping like last season), Nuggets, Hornets (though I think they'll be above the dog-fight as a 7th or maybe 6th seed), Lakers, Grizzlies, Wolves, Sonics (I'd say they'd be a loser) all possibly involved as well.
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Come on now :mad: , the Warriors have always had that talent, and this season alone players such as Monta Ellis, Ike Diogu and even Andris Biedrins had their "coming out party" to an extent--making a huge impact and just showing their raw potential for contribution in the future. I've always thought that their problem was a coach--Mike Montgomery was merely average, Eric Musselman couldn't get them over the top, etc., but here the Warriors get a proven coach who could possibly, just possibly put all this raw talent into good use. The Warriors have been a good offensive team for the past couple of years, and Nelly is a good offensive coach--this may end up being a good marriage.

I still think their problem is a veteran, or lack thereof--a veteran who could contribute, not someone like Adonal Foyle or Calbert Cheaney. They still have a solid core of Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, and very good depth--and a possible good tandem in B-Diddy and J-Rich especially if the former could stay healthy. A lot of it really depends on B-Diddy though as well, if arguably one of the top 7 PGs could stay healthy they will definitely have a good shot.
 
Arby's Roast Beef said:
Come on now , the Warriors have always had that talent, and this season alone players such as Monta Ellis, Ike Diogu and even Andris Biedrins had their "coming out party" to an extent--making a huge impact and just showing their raw potential for contribution in the future. I've always thought that their problem was a coach--Mike Montgomery was merely average, Eric Musselman couldn't get them over the top, etc., but here the Warriors get a proven coach who could possibly, just possibly put all this raw talent into good use. The Warriors have been a good offensive team for the past couple of years, and Nelly is a good offensive coach--this may end up being a good marriage.

I still think their problem is a veteran, or lack thereof--a veteran who could contribute, not someone like Adonal Foyle or Calbert Cheaney. They still have a solid core of Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, and very good depth--and a possible good tandem in B-Diddy and J-Rich especially if the former could stay healthy. A lot of it really depends on B-Diddy though as well, if arguably one of the top 7 PGs could stay healthy they will definitely have a good shot.
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Most know the Warriors have a few talented players, young talent, and potential players. But overall, I've made it clear how I feel here, and in the other thread about the Warriors 06-07 season (and partly beyond in the other thread, also).
 
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Bricklayer said:
You do realize who was the coach the last time they WERE dangerous do you not? We routinely date the descent of the Warriors into Clipperesque hell from the date that Don Nelson left the franchise. Now he has come back, and with his ex player as the GM too. Odd indeed to ignore the obvious possibilities there.

Don Nelson doesn't win titles. IMO never will. But Don Nelson has repeatedly taken down and out franchises and made them into annual playoff teams. There is a lot of talent on that Golden State roster, and there have been very few coaches in NBA history better at tapping diverse talent than Don Nelson. As mentioned, if you are an elite team Don Nelson returning to the league is a mere curiosity. If you're a team fighting for a playoff spot, its possible things just got a little tougher.
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Er, do you do realize who was ON the Warriors team the last time they were dangerous?? The starting lineup was Avery Johnson, Latrell Sprewell, Billy Owens, Chris Webber, Gatling/Alexander. Chris Mullin came off the bench!!

Don Nelson also coached them the next year when they started off 14-31 and he got himself fired. Was it Don Nelson's coaching ability or did losing Webber have something to do with it? Not to mention the fact that it was Nelson's inability to get along with Webber that resulted in Webber leaving (for Tom Gugliotta).

I mean, did Rick Adelman just forget how to coach for two years when he was with the Warriors or did the talent have something to do with it? The problem with the Warriors isn't the coach, the problem is a lack of talent. Don Nelson may coax a few more wins out of them, but I am certainly not scared of them in the slightest.
 
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Their roster is seriously flawed. Terrible SF's, a shoot-first-second-and-third PG, and terrible contracts up and down depth chart. They have some young talent, but it will take a season or two to get the mess of a roster fixed. I wonder why Mullin didnt do anything all summer?
 
Bricklayer said:
..............., if you are an elite team Don Nelson returning to the league is a mere curiosity. If you're a team fighting for a playoff spot, its possible things just got a little tougher.
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I think Brick has a valid point here. The Kings are IMHO realistically a 6-10th place team, depending on how the pieces fit. If the Warriors are as someone mentioned a 8-10th place team, they both could conceivably be fighting for the same last spot. Those couple extra wins that Nelson might be able to squeaze out could hurt.
 
whozit said:
I think Brick has a valid point here. The Kings are IMHO realistically a 6-10th place team, depending on how the pieces fit. If the Warriors are as someone mentioned a 8-10th place team, they both could conceivably be fighting for the same last spot. Those couple extra wins that Nelson might be able to squeaze out could hurt.
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There is nothing to worrie about, yes we will be fighting for a 8-7-6 spots. but the Warriors STILL SUCK! if they made a GOOD Trade then yes we should be worried because Monty was NEVER the problem Golden State alone is a mess just like NY everyone is a scapegoat who leads the Warriors. Nellie is the next one to be in the Hot-seat if he can't lead the team...

if people are worried about the Warriors possibly making things tough for us then its pretty sad as much as we have done nothing to improve this off-season we ARE better then them.
 
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