At the risk of totally derailing this thread...let me help you out a bit with this. She explains everything. It is a bit long (11 minutes), but it's pretty good.
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Debating AI
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kingsboi
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I thought what Australia is doing had some significance so I'll post this here
www.bbc.com
still won't stop teens from consuming from 16 up but at least its a trial phase to see how it works
also want to add that high schools and colleges should prohibit cell phone use during class
How does Australia's under-16 social media ban work?
The world-first law aims to reduce the risks children face online, but critics fear it may not work.
www.bbc.com
still won't stop teens from consuming from 16 up but at least its a trial phase to see how it works
also want to add that high schools and colleges should prohibit cell phone use during class
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macadocious
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Unfortunately it will never happen at this point. They put too much school stuff on the phones. I dont mean like physically in a zoolander Owen Wilson connotation, but the access. High School and Junior High promotes all of their functions through social media. Dances, games, clubs, etc. To the point where it's the only place you can get the information. Then teachers tell kids to get off their phone in class. It's the biggest mixed message and societally we have fumbled this badly. The technology moved way faster than the realization of the negative consequences. It would take something like what Australia is doing on the federal level. Our state specific laws and regulations will never be in enough alignment for anything like this. Best thing you can do is work with your own kids, but it's so freaking hard!! They basically have to have a phone by 7th grade to function in the regular world. I'd say 10 is the average age a kid has a phone now but it's trending younger. 8 year olds having them is common.
kingsboi
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this is false I'm afraid. go travel to other prosperous countries and you will see children do just fine without non-stop screens. but you are right, it's on the parents to do the hard work here and say no or give severe restrictions.
macadocious
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Where are these mythical places? Because I’ve been in about 10 different countries in the last 5 years and it’s the same everywhere.
kingsboi
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Australia, Switzerland, Germany, Canada
My son's school banned phones on campus this year, I believe stored and off in backpacks are fine, but if they are out at all even at lunch they get taken.
They are required to have iPads though so...
They are required to have iPads though so...
kingsboi
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it's been known for a length of time that pen to paper has way better retention capacities
macadocious
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Australia recently passed a law because of this, so until that goes into effect no. I have been to Canada and Germany recently and no, it’s the same, maybe worse because you have to have a phone for transit. I cannot speak for Switzerland.
Well, this is on the train from Zurich to Innsbruck three years ago and it sure seems like phone use is pretty prevalent among the younger set.
kingsboi
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sure, during transit but what about in classroom settings?
You just said nonstop screens. I don’t know about school classrooms.
It does for me but different people learn differently.
I actually started playing with a memory font (sans forgetica) before my Halloween tribute show this year and found it interesting. At my annual conference this year there was actually a memory seminar where different methodologies were discussed and I learned about the "hard to read font" method, and that sans forgetica was designed to do that (presenters didn't know about it). I wish I had taken better notes on that one lol.
I think I digress a bit - the reason iPads are now in class is because they replaced blue books, all their text books are digital, so they've largely also replaced lockers and big backpacks, and I think all their tests and homework are done with them. May even reduce cheating somehow but tbh they are allowed so much more freedom and technology than I was as a student.
The law went into effect Dec 10 if I recall correctly and kids are all figuring out how they will defeat it. It's just a social media ban though, not a device ban.
Diego Pavia wrote an apology on X a bit ago with the hallmark telltale of AI - the em dash.
What's funny is that Excel occasionally auto changes a dash to an em dash in my sheets and I actually love it, but it only does it about 4 out of 5 times so occasionally I will have to ctrl-c the em dash from another cell to have it in the one it didn't correct.
On a Mac it is option-shift-hyphen — easy peasy. Ain't nobody doing that in a tweet.
What's funny is that Excel occasionally auto changes a dash to an em dash in my sheets and I actually love it, but it only does it about 4 out of 5 times so occasionally I will have to ctrl-c the em dash from another cell to have it in the one it didn't correct.
On a Mac it is option-shift-hyphen — easy peasy. Ain't nobody doing that in a tweet.
On an iPhone you just hold the dash character for about a second and several options pop up, including an em-dash — even easier than on a Mac. In terms of difficulty, the em-dash is completely obtainable for tweet-level typing, at least from Apple products.
I've been using excessive em dashes for decades -- maybe I should sue Mr. Art I. Telligence for copyright infringement? Or at least fine him for his ponderous lack of wit.
kingsboi
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apologies for not using enough specificity. non stop screens can really mean a number of things so we'll leave it at that.
kingsboi
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using ipads in classroom settings is a faulty approach in my view but those who use it will point to reduced waste in printing textbooks and the like which is a sham to be honest but I don't work in the field so it's just a random mans opinion
whitechocolate
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I use computers in my classroom. There are some useful tools that target individual students' specific needs, and track their weaknesses and strengths which I can address during instruction.