Bill Simmons proposes stupidest trade in recent history
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HELL NO in all caps.
**** off bill simmons
QWERTYLICIOUS
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Can we trade Bill Simmons for someone with an actual brain?
screw Hollinger but he watches more Kings games than Bill obvs.
Can't help but feel like Bill is another Boston character like Tommy Heinsohn where if you were there, you may not love him, but you've at least got an affinity for the guy but if you are from any place else, he is a blathering idiot 90% of the time.
captain bill
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Surprised it wasn't sending Keegan to the Celtics for Blake Griffin
Hey! You can't teach size!
One of the annoying things about this kind of stuff is that there's so little thought that goes into it.
For starters - the Lakers' unprotected FRPs in 2027 and 2029 are more valuable than Fox. You can make that argument, but for a Kings team that hasn't made the playoffs in 16 years to give up Fox now for picks 4 and 6 years away makes zero sense, especially for a GM without a contract for next season.
And that's not even taking into consideration that teams (especially in premier markets like LA) are built and rebuilt in just a few years time. The assumption is that those picks will be high and valuable and there's no guarantee that they will be.
But even more fundamental than that - the Kings can't trade Fox for Westbrook straight up anyway. They'd have to add significant salary. Are we going to give them Holmes too?
And for Hollinger - Westbook makes $47M. Mitchell makes $4.8M. You could add Holmes AND Barnes and it's still not enough to make a deal work.
For starters - the Lakers' unprotected FRPs in 2027 and 2029 are more valuable than Fox. You can make that argument, but for a Kings team that hasn't made the playoffs in 16 years to give up Fox now for picks 4 and 6 years away makes zero sense, especially for a GM without a contract for next season.
And that's not even taking into consideration that teams (especially in premier markets like LA) are built and rebuilt in just a few years time. The assumption is that those picks will be high and valuable and there's no guarantee that they will be.
But even more fundamental than that - the Kings can't trade Fox for Westbrook straight up anyway. They'd have to add significant salary. Are we going to give them Holmes too?
And for Hollinger - Westbook makes $47M. Mitchell makes $4.8M. You could add Holmes AND Barnes and it's still not enough to make a deal work.
iowamcnabb
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Fox has no path to being a top 35 player?
He's not even a top 35 PG, amirite Fox haters?!?
KingsFanSince85
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So in one breath Fox isn’t top player, apparently, but in another breath he’s good enough to be highly coveted.
What’s even funnier is people valuing Russell Westbrook at all, who has made every team he’s played for worse, while undervaluing a much younger player whose only real flaw was being drafted by arguably the most mismanaged franchise among the 4 major sports.
If De’Aaron Fox had been drafted by and played his entire career for, say, the Spurs or the Heat, the narrative surrounding him would be drastically different — even if his production and development had been the exact same.
What’s even funnier is people valuing Russell Westbrook at all, who has made every team he’s played for worse, while undervaluing a much younger player whose only real flaw was being drafted by arguably the most mismanaged franchise among the 4 major sports.
If De’Aaron Fox had been drafted by and played his entire career for, say, the Spurs or the Heat, the narrative surrounding him would be drastically different — even if his production and development had been the exact same.
KingsFanSince85
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On a separate note, IDK why anybody ever takes Bill Simmons seriously. If you do, the tweet posted in this thread should be reason enough for you to finally see the light. Reading his garbage is polluting your brain.
TaxMan
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It's hilarious to me that people talk about the Lakers 2027 and 2029 picks as though they are so highly coveted and unique. I would guess that every team in the league likely has a 2027 and 2029 unprotected first that could be traded. It's only discussed because the lakers literally have nothing else of value to trade. But as you've noted, there are very very few teams/GMs that will think with such a long term vision that they are getting exited about draft picks 4 and 6 years away.
TaxMan
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He's entertainment. He is rooted in a solid understanding of basketball and basketball history; however, his schtick is making strong "takes" that generate conversation. I find the ringer podcasts entertaining, but that's all it is.
KingsFanSince85
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I strongly disagree that he’s rooted in anything “solid”.
Simmons is the type that watches a movie trailer or reads cliff notes and believes he’s educated enough to provide a review.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Bill bas admitted he was a ding ding for proposing this
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