Best-ever All-NBA team players - shooting guards (CORRECTED)

Which FOUR of these players do you think are the best shooting guards ever?


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VF21

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We had 14 nominations for the position of shooting guard on the all-NBA team. The nominating committee has come up with their top 10 from those nominated. The top 10 vote getters are shown below.
Now it's time for you to vote for your top four finalists. Please do not vote for more than four names. The top four will go on to the next round, which will involve mixing them with the top four of the other categories to get the four best possible NBA teams.

Thanks!

Ray Allen
Kobe Bryant
Clyde Drexler
George Gervin
Michael Jordan
Pete Maravich
Reggie Miller
Mitch Richmond
Dwayne Wade
Jerry West

Feel free to discuss why you made the selections you did.
 
REMINDER: The idea is to vote for the top 4 to go on into the next round. If you only vote for 1, you're throwing things off.

Thanks...

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Seems to me that there are three obvious choices: MJ, Logo and Kobe. Not certain whether Drexler or Gervin deserves the 4th spot, but I went with Gervin, because at the very least, "the one thing [he] could do...was finger roll."
 
Seems to me that there are three obvious choices: MJ, Logo and Kobe. Not certain whether Drexler or Gervin deserves the 4th spot, but I went with Gervin, because at the very least, "the one thing [he] could do...was finger roll."

4th is hard, but I went Drexler. He won a title and lead a team to the Finals twice and had the league's best record in 92 (iirc). He wasn't an old fogey in the 95 title run either. He was quite important to that Rockets team.
 
4th is hard, but I went Drexler. He won a title and lead a team to the Finals twice and had the league's best record in 92 (iirc). He wasn't an old fogey in the 95 title run either. He was quite important to that Rockets team.

Good point. I forget about Drexler's '95 title run with the Rockets, and I think you're correct that without him, the Rockets don't repeat.
 
Good point. I forget about Drexler's '95 title run with the Rockets, and I think you're correct that without him, the Rockets don't repeat.

He was fun to watch that year. I remember him making the most insane azz finger roll I've ever seen against Utah in the playoffs. He was fading away from the rim at the free throw line and it was a high archer. Barely rippled the net. He had some sweet moves to say the least.
 
I took Reggie over Clyde. I based my decision on who would i choose to put on my team. I would always take Reggie over Clyde because of his clutchness, grit and loyalty.
 
VF21 said:
Feel free to discuss why you made the selections you did.


1. Jordan - He was aight. Hit some shots here and there. Played a little defense.

His greatest achievement is regaining his form after 1.5 years off (and he had clearly lost a step in 96, but he was still above and beyond everyone else). And I don't think there are many people who really believe he wouldn't have won 8 titles in a row had he not gone to play crapball w/ the White Sox farm team.

Best season: 1989 - 32.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 8.0 apg, 2.9 spg

2. West - Apparently he was a stud in his early years in HS and college. Legend in WV. I'd love to see more, but from what I have seen, he was cat quick defensively. I've got his SportsCentury program and a couple NBA TV games. They showed this play that was obscenely fast where he laid it in, the guy inbounded, and he took the ball right out of the recipient's hands and laid it in again within 2 secs. They talked of a story where he lead his team to some title game with a broken nose and a jersey soaked in blood. He said he would shoot so much that his fingertips were always raw and bloody.

He's the only guy w/ a Finals MVP in a losing year. Hit the 70 footer in a Finals game. In LA's first Finals home game in 62, he stole an inbounds pass from Havilcek midcourt and ran it downcourt at the buzzer. I'm sure the stories are countless for Mr. Clutch. His signature shot was a quick pull up midranger. Played PG for a number of years, was the floor leader of the 69 win team, won a title that year.

Beyond that he was a head coach, assistant GM, and GM. He found Vlade in Serbia when foreign players were rare. Got both Shaq and Kobe within days of each other. Made the Grizzlies a respectable team. Etc. Etc.

Best season: 1972 - 25.8 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 9.7 apg (no steal stats)

3. Kobe - The Polarizer. For all the flaws people find in his game, one thing that isn't noted about his career is that he's one of the few entrusted to initiate Phil's offense for multiple years (along w/ MJ, Pippen, and Harper). That makes him a smart player. He's not just an athletic handful. Another oddity is the range he has for someone not considered a pure shooter. He's got as many games w/ 7 treys in the last 3 years as Miller did over his final 14 years (and Reggie shot tons of them).

Best season: 2003 - 30.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 5.9 apg, 2.2 spg

4. Clyde - Bron will quickly take his place and perhaps will sit under Jordan within a few years. Drexler was a more complete player than the rest save for Richmond. He passed, boarded, and scored. He was strong-bodied unlike Gervin which allowed him more explosivness and inside scores. He was considered a loser by many in the early 90s, but he lost to Isiah, Magic, and Jordan in consecutive years. There's nothing to be ashamed of there. He wasn't a loser, as he showed in 95. Everyone's got a different perspective here, but I think Clyde's stats alone make him a shoe-in over the others.

Best season: 1992 - 25.0 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 6.7 apg, 1.8 spg
 
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I look at the name of the position...Shooting Guard. Miller has to be put in there if you're talking about shooting guards that could shoot. Other than Ray Allen, West and Mitch, the rest of these guys were all scorers, and not pure shooters.

But as far as overall talent goes...I agree with almost everything Gargamel said, although I think 'Bron is a SF.
 
I'm going to mess up all the voting probably but I'll explain why. I know West and Mitch etc. were great players but as I really have not seen them play I cannot vote for them. I can only go by who I've seen which is why my votes are for recent players-Wade,Miller,Allen and of course MJ. Sorry if this skews things.:o
 
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