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Kings strike deal with 7-footer Moore
Coming off his best season, he gets a three-year contract.
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PDT Saturday, July 14, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C7


LAS VEGAS -- One day after attempting to finalize a trade for Cleveland forward Drew Gooden, the Kings agreed to terms with 7-foot center Mikki Moore on Friday.

According to Moore's agent, Mark Bartelstein, the deal for the former New Jersey Net is for three seasons at the midlevel exception, with 2 1/2 seasons of the $18 million deal guaranteed. If he is still on the roster as of the June draft in 2009, the third season will be guaranteed.

"He adds a lot of length, athleticism, skill and experience," Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie said. "He played terrific in the playoffs last year and all season long for New Jersey. I think he gives us something that we need to add to our team."

Beyond marking the Kings' first offseason activity other than the drafting of center Spencer Hawes, the signing of the 31-year-old journeyman is the latest sign of the Kings' desire to add a mixture of athleticism, defensive ability and scoring to the front line. And coupled with the recent signing of second-year big man Justin Williams, the forward spot is suddenly clogged far beyond the likes of Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim.

Asked if he was concerned about the big-man overload or his already-unhappy veterans sharing so much playing time, Petrie said: "We won 33 games last year. I mean, we're trying to improve our team in areas where we have a need. I think hopefully the veteran people we have are going to come back, try and win more games and contribute in any way they can."

Asked if Moore's signing ended the pursuit of Gooden, Petrie said: "This is a period of time where you're dealing with multiple scenarios, things that may or may not happen, different levels of conversations. This is one that we had a very strong interest in. Not knowing how things go in free agency and all that, it's something we had an ongoing interest in, and we're really excited it's worked out."

Moore led the league with a 60.9 field-goal percentage last season and averaged career highs of 9.8 points, 5.1 rebounds and 26.4 minutes.

"He's gotten better every year," Bartelstein said. "The guy led the league in field-goal percentage, and half the shots are 18-foot jump shots."

Moore, who has played for seven teams after going undrafted out of Nebraska in 1998, turned down a three-year, $10 million offer from the Nets earlier this month. He made just over $1 million last season.

The Kings have only the biannual salary cap exception ($1.83 million) for any more signings.

Losing and winners
-- The Kings fell to New York 96-84 Thursday, but there were standout showings in the absences of swingman Francisco García (excused for summer league, family matters) and guard Quincy Douby (sore back).

Draft pick Spencer Hawes wasn't shy about picking up the offensive load, as the center hit 11 of 25 shots for 22 points. Point guard Pooh Jeter, a second-year player who was cut from the Kings' training camp last season, had his first big outing, scoring 22 points on 8-of-15 shooting. Point guard Mustafa Shakur, an undrafted rookie from Arizona, scored 19 points on 5-of-13 shooting.

The Kings, who did not play or practice Friday, face Rick Adelman's Houston squad at 5:30 p.m. today. The former Kings coach likely will be in the stands while ex-Kings assistant Elston Turner runs the team.

About the writer: The Bee's Sam Amick can be reached at samick@ sacbee.com.
 
And coupled with the recent signing of second-year big man Justin Williams, the forward spot is suddenly clogged far beyond the likes of Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim.

Asked if he was concerned about the big-man overload or his already-unhappy veterans sharing so much playing time, Petrie said: "We won 33 games last year. I mean, we're trying to improve our team in areas where we have a need. I think hopefully the veteran people we have are going to come back, try and win more games and contribute in any way they can."

how come they didnt make it official yet?
 
Asked if he was concerned about the big-man overload or his already-unhappy veterans sharing so much playing time, Petrie said: "We won 33 games last year. I mean, we're trying to improve our team in areas where we have a need. I think hopefully the veteran people we have are going to come back, try and win more games and contribute in any way they can."

Hmmm. Was my attempt to read some possible sense into the whole thing too hasty, or is Geoff telling us a tall tale?
 
Asked if he was concerned about the big-man overload or his already-unhappy veterans sharing so much playing time, Petrie said: "We won 33 games last year. I mean, we're trying to improve our team in areas where we have a need. I think hopefully the veteran people we have are going to come back, try and win more games and contribute in any way they can."

I do not like this part :( ....
 
What do you want him to say?
"Yes! You are right. We have a logjam at the PF/C position, so I am already in the position to trade Shareef, Kenny, and Miller. Stay tuned for more news Mr. Amick."

Petrie is just saying all the necessary things that are required to not thrust him into the hotseat/spotlight. Hes like a groundhog. Sees the shadow and then comes out, but doesnt like to get surrounded with attention.
 
That sounds like a 2 year deal with the Kings holding all the cards at the end of year 2?


This is an important consideration.

A 2 yr deal with a team option for a third does not violate our 08-09 free agency push. Then Moore only hurts us in one way -- retarding the growth of our frontcourt kids. If however that third year is guaranteed, wholly or partially, then it hurts us financailly too and flies even more directly in the face of everything a rebuild entails (developing kids, freeing money).
 
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This is an important consideration.

A 2 yr deal with a team option for a third does not violate our 08-09 free agency push. Then Moore only hurts us in one way -- retarding the growth of our frontcourt kids. If however that third year is guaranteed, whoilly or partially, then it hurts us financailly too and flies even more dorectly int he face of everything a rebuild entails (developing kids, freeing money).


Yes, and it does worry me that Petrie is focused on winning games next season, rather than the total rebuild that is needed. However, I also hold-out hope that GP is planning some major trades to clear-out some vets, so that we will not be as crowded as now. It does seem like we've gone too long with "big men" who could use some height - so I like the idea of height - but you are correct that if we keep using-up our money then we'll never really be able to go for the big rebuild that is needed.
 
Reading this article for the first time, it seems that Moore might have an interesting value for us trade wise at the end of the 2 years. If the last year is only guaranteed if he is on "the King's" roster, then isn't he an expiring if traded anywhere else?

That would make him a type of midlevel trade exception to parlay with right before the draft (or around the trade deadline too). I do like the intrigue in that as it seems to give us some flexibility at that point. It would be a great trading piece for teams wishing to dump salary. Could make for an exciting draft year (Mikki and pieces for Picks/Pieces).

The downside is if we are unable to move him then we have to pay the salary for the third year, when we would to clear his $ for younger (better) free agents.

Either way, it is an interesting contract element. Welcome to the Kings Mikki :) .
 
This is an important consideration.

A 2 yr deal with a team option for a third does not violate our 08-09 free agency push. Then Moore only hurts us in one way -- retarding the growth of our frontcourt kids. If however that third year is guaranteed, wholly or partially, then it hurts us financailly too and flies even more directly in the face of everything a rebuild entails (developing kids, freeing money).

it actually gives us another bartering chip during that offseason especially if he is not guaranteed for the third year. another team would trade for him and waive him since its not guaranteed. 6m in savings is alot to a team wanting to rebuild or save $$$. overall, this move isn't that bad if they trade that undersized PF to make room for him ;)
 
Well crap, turns out it is NOT a team option. Its almost like a prearranged buyout price. Apparently it really is a 3yr contact with a 2 1/2 year guarantee. If we waive him after year 2, we still have to pay him half of his salary the next year -- about $3 mil at the time I am assuming. That's $3mil off of our free agency money that summer. And now this move officially makes no sense whatsoever on any rebuilding theory I have ever heard.

(details of 3rd year provided by Amick himself who was nice enough to respond)
 
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Well crap, turns out it is NOT a team option. Its almost like a prearranged buyout price. Apparently it really is a 3yr contact with a 2 1/2 year guarantee. If we waive him after year 2, we still have to pay him half of his salary the next year -- about $3 mil at the time I am assuming. That's $3mil off of our free agency money that summer. And now this move officially makes no sense whatsoever on any rebuilding theory I have ever heard.

(details of 3rd year provided by Amick himself who was nice enough to respond)


sigh.. what in the hell are they doing
 
The press had been saying that Moore was shopping for a 5-year MLE deal (yes, I realize the absurdity), but that the Nets weren't willing to go over around $11M/3 years. I guess Geoff decided to offer Moore half of what he was hoping for.

Meanwhile, the Nets solved their problem by giving Magloire a 1-year, $4M contract. What a sensible thing to do!
 
Well crap, turns out it is NOT a team option. Its almost like a prearranged buyout price. Apparently it really is a 3yr contact with a 2 1/2 year guarantee. If we waive him after year 2, we still have to pay him half of his salary the next year -- about $3 mil at the time I am assuming. That's $3mil off of our free agency money that summer. And now this move officially makes no sense whatsoever on any rebuilding theory I have ever heard.

(details of 3rd year provided by Amick himself who was nice enough to respond)

One very slight clarification to this -- if we waive him and another team picks up his contract, we don't owe him anything the last year of his deal. If he clears waivers and another team signs him as a free-agent, his cap figure for us is reduced by an amount equal to the amount of his new deal.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#55

Of course, given his age and ability it's entirely possible he'll be out of the league by that time and we could be stuck with the full $3 million, but there are some eventualities that could lower that $3 million burden in the last year.
 
Meanwhile, the Nets solved their problem by giving Magloire a 1-year, $4M contract. What a sensible thing to do!


Damn...just damn. I certainly no longer had any interest in Magloire, but you sing former 12th man to a 3yr $16-17mil deal with $14 or so guaranteed, and then the team that lost the former 12th man turns aorund and signs a former All Star center for $4mil, I am thinking you need to look at what you are doing.
 
One very slight clarification to this -- if we waive him and another team picks up his contract, we don't owe him anything the last year of his deal. If he clears waivers and another team signs him as a free-agent, his cap figure for us is reduced by an amount equal to the amount of his new deal.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#55

Of course, given his age and ability it's entirely possible he'll be out of the league by that time and we could be stuck with the full $3 million, but there are some eventualities that could lower that $3 million burden in the last year.


Good point -- that's a point of light. A pinhole maybe, and you have to squint, but something. So plan is waive the former 12th man at age 34 and hope/pray somebody does you a favor and either picks him up at $3mil and frees you from all the money, or signs him to a vets min deal and saves you $1 mil of the $3mil. At this point anything is better than nothing.
 
Can't say too much here, but just a baffling move by Petrie & the Kings. I thought they would be smarter and not use their money at all, but this is beyond that. Another big who can't rebound well (5 boards per game in 26 minutes per game last season) - worse than the money is the fact he'll be taking time from Hawes and Williams.

Blech, that's all I can think after hearing this signing.
 
If Petrie made no additional trades, what would the Kings line-up look like? I'll bet one would get four different answers from four different fans because I don't see a dominant front court with any particular set-combination.
 
If Petrie made no additional trades, what would the Kings line-up look like? I'll bet one would get four different answers from four different fans because I don't see a dominant front court with any particular set-combination.

I don't think you will see one, at least for a while. We're not an established team. We have a new coach, we have new players, we are still looking for an identity ("sucking losers" not withstanding).

Don't expect a completed project out of this in the near future.
 
I'll take a seven footer with offensive skills any day of the week, jumpshot,energy,experience,hustle,highest field goal percentage in the league, looks like predator.
Welcome to the team, we have some very skilled 7 footers on this team and it makes me happy to say that. There is more to this signing, another big will be moved. Keep it up Petrie.
 
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