Ailene Voisin: Pressure surrounds Petrie, but he isn't stressing out

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Jeremy posted this in the links section, but thought it was a good grounded column worthy of a thread (the odd tallying of Geoff's lunch menu aside).

Ailene Voisin: Pressure surrounds Petrie, but he isn't stressing out
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Columnist
Last Updated 12:11 am PDT Saturday, June 2, 2007


Geoff Petrie has spent the past several weeks trolling for hidden gems, ruminating about his coaching prospects, remembering the splendid summer of 1998 and longing to do it all over again.

Hire the right coach. Draft the right players. Facilitate beneficial trades. Undertake a series of personnel moves that are both prudent and prodigious, capable of providing the team with an identity and the franchise with a personality.

Oh, and accomplish all of this -- in essence, start over in front of a more seasoned and demanding Sacramento audience -- while furthering his reputation as one of the NBA's most respected executives and without sacrificing his health.

"It's like that saying," Petrie said with a chuckle, " 'This is what makes Sammy run.' You shouldn't be in this business if you're not a competitor. There is always pressure. And when you go from 44 wins to 33, no one is walking around looking for a pat on the back.

"But my health is fine. It's not a factor. Zero. I'm just trying to manage all of these situations the best I can because it's an important chapter."

If eating habits can at least hint at those blood pressure and cholesterol counts, then unlike two postseasons ago, Petrie is in great shape. During a late lunch last week, the Kings' longtime basketball president, still trim and youthful-looking at age 59, was surprisingly upbeat and energized for someone unaccustomed to missing the playoffs. He insists the emergency angioplasty he underwent following the 2005 playoffs is a distant memory, causing him to become more disciplined about his diet, not less consumed by his profession.

Of note: He scrutinized the menu and passed on the cheese plates. He inquired about the fresh vegetables and eschewed the meat dishes. He perused the wine list and ordered a glass of chardonnay ... accompanied by two bottles of water. Then he hurried home to feed his dogs and pack for another of his increasingly frequent trips. There still is a franchise to fix.

"I can't promise another 1998, but we've rebuilt before, and we'll do it again," Petrie said, forcefully. "You can't be programmed to any great extent. You have all this stuff in your head, What if? What if? What if? And you have to take the opportunities when they make themselves available. You just can't predict."

True, but because of salary cap restrictions, and barring a few more of those Petrie miracle moments, this offseason figures to be more of a Big Dig than the Big Bang of '98, when a series of stunning moves led to the acquisitions of Vlade Divac, Chris Webber, Jason Williams and Peja Stojakovic, among others, plus the hiring of Rick Adelman. Petrie also is keenly aware that another popular saying -- what have you done for me lately? -- increasingly applies because his most recent signings could best be characterized as clunkers.

Shareef Abdur-Rahim (2005) plods along on bad knees. John Salmons (2006) is an effective role player, but not at these prices. And could there have been a worse choice to coach Ron Artest and Mike Bibby than Eric Musselman?

It happens. It happens to the best of them. "The Logo" (Jerry West) leaves Memphis in a major slump. The respected Joe Dumars wasted a No. 2 overall pick on Darko Milicic. Gregg Popovich acquired Nazr Mohammed and regretted it almost immediately. In this league, the elite executives are those who excel at the recovery process; they absorb the blows to their egos, take the hits from their public and their bosses, then turn on the laptop and make the trade that makes everyone forget about the gaffes.

"You can tell a lot about the future by looking at the past," Kings co-owner Gavin Maloof said, "and Geoff doesn't make many mistakes. Geoff's the boss. We just need to reverse the curve and find the best coach."

Stan Van Gundy or Kurt Rambis? Terry Porter or Scotty Brooks? No college or WNBA coach need apply. We also know this about Petrie: He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles. He doesn't necessarily want to be the guy with the hammer, but he wants a guy with a hammer. He also is a devotee of offensive systems that emphasize passing, movement and early offense and transition opportunities (see Adelman), and he has become very vocal about improving the defense.

"It's an important hire, an important hire," Petrie said. "We want someone to move forward with."
 
More on what makes Sammy run, from Wikipedia:

What Makes Sammy Run? (1941) is a novel by Budd Schulberg. It is a rags to riches story chronicling the rise and fall of Shmelka Glickstein, a Jewish boy born in New York's Lower East Side who very early in his life makes up his mind to escape the ghetto and climb the ladder of success.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Makes_Sammy_Run?
 
This is the Geoff we need this offseason IMO. The motivated Geoff who knows he has to make some moves and some trades. Not the passive Geoff with the Maloofs meddling. It sounds like he might have some good plans.
 
"You can tell a lot about the future by looking at the past," Kings co-owner Gavin Maloof said, "and Geoff doesn't make many mistakes. Geoff's the boss. We just need to reverse the curve and find the best coach."

I hope I'm not reading too much into that statement. It looks to me as though Gavin might possibly be admitting that Petrie does much better at his job when the Brothers Maloof aren't sticking their noses into his business...

Of course, hope springs eternal.

:)
 
"Stan Van Gundy or Kurt Rambis? Terry Porter or Scotty Brooks? No college or WNBA coach need apply. We also know this about Petrie: He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles. He doesn't necessarily want to be the guy with the hammer, but he wants a guy with a hammer. "

That quote, to me, is the most interesting part of the whole article. It's the first time I've heard mention of who Petrie respects the most in the coaching ranks and the kind of coach he wants to have. It's not a softie like Adelman. He wants someone with an edge who isn't afraid to confront his players or call them out. That's one of the more optimistic things I've heard this offseason. Now, can he find a Pop-Sloan-Skiles hybrid in the midst of Van Gundy, Rambis, Porter or Brooks?
 
"Stan Van Gundy or Kurt Rambis? Terry Porter or Scotty Brooks? No college or WNBA coach need apply. We also know this about Petrie: He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles. He doesn't necessarily want to be the guy with the hammer, but he wants a guy with a hammer. "

That quote, to me, is the most interesting part of the whole article. It's the first time I've heard mention of who Petrie respects the most in the coaching ranks and the kind of coach he wants to have. It's not a softie like Adelman. He wants someone with an edge who isn't afraid to confront his players or call them out. That's one of the more optimistic things I've heard this offseason. Now, can he find a Pop-Sloan-Skiles hybrid in the midst of Van Gundy, Rambis, Porter or Brooks?

You may be getting confused there -- that was Aileen editorializing about what SHE likes. Remember, she was Adelman's #1 hater, and the Muss disaster has only moderately taught her humility. Her interpretations have to be taken with a grain of salt -- they are meant to pander to you.
 
"Stan Van Gundy or Kurt Rambis? Terry Porter or Scotty Brooks? No college or WNBA coach need apply. We also know this about Petrie: He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles. He doesn't necessarily want to be the guy with the hammer, but he wants a guy with a hammer. "

That quote, to me, is the most interesting part of the whole article. It's the first time I've heard mention of who Petrie respects the most in the coaching ranks and the kind of coach he wants to have. It's not a softie like Adelman. He wants someone with an edge who isn't afraid to confront his players or call them out. That's one of the more optimistic things I've heard this offseason. Now, can he find a Pop-Sloan-Skiles hybrid in the midst of Van Gundy, Rambis, Porter or Brooks?

I love Sloan, but he hasn't accomplished any more than Adelman. Skiles is due to flame out of Chicago either next season or the year after. Only Pop has achieved demonstrably better results than the coach we fired two years ago. That's old news though, so whatever. But, Mike Brown just "coached" a team to the the NBA Finals. Do we need any further proof that this is a player's league?
 
I'm really excited for this offseason. It seems that Petrie is going to make real moves..psst. geoff. the suns need a good back-up point guard. we have bibby and they have amare. let's get it done. :p
 
I love Sloan, but he hasn't accomplished any more than Adelman. Skiles is due to flame out of Chicago either next season or the year after. Only Pop has achieved demonstrably better results than the coach we fired two years ago. That's old news though, so whatever. But, Mike Brown just "coached" a team to the the NBA Finals. Do we need any further proof that this is a player's league?

So what's your point? That we Petrie should have just kept Muss and saved his time and energy looking for another coach? After all, if it's a player's league, then what's the diff?
 
You may be getting confused there -- that was Aileen editorializing about what SHE likes. Remember, she was Adelman's #1 hater, and the Muss disaster has only moderately taught her humility. Her interpretations have to be taken with a grain of salt -- they are meant to pander to you.


"He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles."

That "He" she is referring to is Petrie. Aileen was voicing her observation of Petrie - that he openly admires Pop, Sloan, Skiles. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say who Petrie admires in the coaching ranks. Now you can say she's a liar, but I really don't see how that observation puts $ in her savings account.
 
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"He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles."

That "He" she is referring to is Petrie. Aileen was voicing her observation of Petrie - that he openly admires Pop, Sloan, Skiles. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say who Petrie admires in the coaching ranks. Now you can say she's a liar, but I really don't see how that observation puts $ in her savings account.

Voisin's saying something is true doesn't necessary mean it's true - or false. It means it's her opinion.

Voisin says Petrie openly admires Pop, Sloan, Skiles. That's her interpretation of how he feels based on her observations. It doesn't mean she has it right ... or wrong.

No one said she's a liar but you're acting as though her saying it makes it so. Not necessarily true.

And even if Petrie does openly admire Pop, Sloan and Skiles it may not mean a thing. I openly admire Ferraris. It doesn't mean I'm playing on going out and getting one for my own use.
 
"He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles."

That "He" she is referring to is Petrie. Aileen was voicing her observation of Petrie - that he openly admires Pop, Sloan, Skiles. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say who Petrie admires in the coaching ranks. Now you can say she's a liar, but I really don't see how that observation puts $ in her savings account.


Well, since Petrie is not as open as AV would have you believe, it could still be just her opinion of what she thinks she sees. Many of us have tried to "read" Geoff.............with mixed results, I say.

The point is: Take everything written in the media about Petrie with a grain of salt. Whatever you do...........do not ever take it as gospel. ;) :p


Edit: VF21, you just beat me to it.
 
"He openly admires Popovich, Jerry Sloan and Scott Skiles."

That "He" she is referring to is Petrie. Aileen was voicing her observation of Petrie - that he openly admires Pop, Sloan, Skiles. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say who Petrie admires in the coaching ranks. Now you can say she's a liar, but I really don't see how that observation puts $ in her savings account.

It furthers her agenda, hence it is by nature suspect, especially from this writer. There is no quote to that effect. No direct evidence. She could assume. She could be cobbling together impressions. She could have asked him for a list, of which those three were on it, but there were a dozen others. She could have pointedly asked him "do you admire..." fishing for a response, and just as pointedly not asked him about others. She is writer with a law degree, two worlds I know well. You have to understand the games and twists that can be played. if Geoff had directly said such a thing, she would have put a quote in her column from him to strengthen + support it. As is, she inserts her own observation. When you see that, from any writer, red flags should go up. From Ailene? Please.
 
So what's your point? That we Petrie should have just kept Muss and saved his time and energy looking for another coach? After all, if it's a player's league, then what's the diff?

You called Adelman a softie. He's not. I don't see how consistently overseeing the best years in a player's career invokes softness. He's a deft manager of personalities, just like PJ. But PJ has been managing the egos of MJ, Kobe, and Shaq whereas Adelman has managed Clyde, Webber, and Peja.

My point is that the only way to truly mismanage an NBA team is to be a guy like Muss, PJ Carlesimo, or Isaih where your ego supercedes that of your players. Put Pitino and the other college coaches on this list. Phil has a massive ego, but he never makes the mistake of openly battling his stars for alpha dog status. He's far too clever for that. Mike Brown may be an idiot, but he knows enough to not try to steal any credit from Lebron in this player's league. Skiles is right on the borderline, and probably should not be openly admired by anyone. He's going to end up being the Billy Martin of the NBA, good for injecting a young team with some intensity, but incapable of managing a veteran squad capable of true contention. Which would make him the next Doug Collins I guess.
 
Voisin's saying something is true doesn't necessary mean it's true - or false. It means it's her opinion.

Voisin says Petrie openly admires Pop, Sloan, Skiles. That's her interpretation of how he feels based on her observations. It doesn't mean she has it right ... or wrong.

No one said she's a liar but you're acting as though her saying it makes it so. Not necessarily true.

And even if Petrie does openly admire Pop, Sloan and Skiles it may not mean a thing. I openly admire Ferraris. It doesn't mean I'm playing on going out and getting one for my own use.

Maybe Voison doesn't even exist. Maybe Graswich is still writing under Voison's pen name. Or maybe Petrie is writing articles for her. Have you ever actually seen her write her columns? Then how could you make the presumption that she actually does it? Maybe the Bee is paying her to be a feminine figurehead and she actually has a ghost writer. And maybe it's Jerry Reynolds is doing it....
 
You're the one who quoted her as though her words were cast in stone and undeniable. Others have tried to point out to you that her opinions are not necessarily fact.

The point was about Pop, Skiles and Sloan. My point was that saying someone "openly admires Pop, Sloan and Skiles" doesn't mean said person would necessarily choose them over everyone else when they have to hire someone for their particular set of circumstances.

The horse is now officially dead. Feel free to continue beating it if you must but I think it's pretty much over and done.

EDIT: And just for the record, while I have not watched her write her columns I have talked to her several times. Voisin does exist. And she does have very strong opinions. That's why the Bee keeps her around. And her columns get talked about. That's the sign of a good columnist. She's supposed to stir the pot and get people talking. She does her job quite well - and that's from one of her biggest critics at times.
 
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