What the hell happend to this team?

#1
I remember Tyrekes rookie year we had a bad start but, once we traded Kevin Martin, the team played hard and competed every night, talk was this team was a season maybe 2 season away from competing for the playoffs. Then next year similarly we lost alot but also competed hard on most nights, we gave some of the best teams a good run. This year we have been blown out by Portland, New York, Memphis,Denver, Philadelphia, Houston,Dallas, Minnesota,Memphis,Portland,Denver, thats 11 out 19 games that we have been blown out, some of them complete embarassments. On the other hand none of our wins have been won convincingly, when last year we blew out some of the lower clubs that came to Arco. The last 2 years we could consistently score more than 100 points, in fact running up the score was our best bet for a win on any given night. This year our highest point total on any given night has been exactly 100 point and that has only happend 2/19 games. A team that is supposed to be loaded with offensive talent has been able to crack the 100 point marke twice in 19 tries. This team looks like its 3 or 4 seasons away from even competing for the playoffs. And thats if our players develop, im not convinced Tyreke will ever be more than what he is now, a guy that shows up every 5 games.
 
#2
We made poor decisions as a franchise. We hired the wrong coach and kept him too long. We made a lot of poor trades and signings yet still seemed to find a combination that was working at the end of last year. Instead of building on it, we went f'd it up and brought in mismatched parts that not only didn't address the old weaknesses, it also created new ones.

In summary, our front office sucked and even as a fan for over 20 years, I still struggle to see how to resolve this mess with our current challenges.
 
#3
I don't know. They can't miss Beno THAT much. It can't be the loss of Dalembert either because they were actually more competitive and more fun to watch in the in the 2007-2010 years than they are now. You can talk about poor team construction but even that doesn't account for field goal % that is approaching all time NBA lows. Maybe we're underestimating the effects of two years of bad coaching followed by a lockout and a brutal schedule. Just have to wait and see if they can turn it around in the second half of the season.
 
#6
Maybe we really are not that good and the other teams are better? Im proud to say we got blown out by the grizzlies cuz they are a much better team. If were gettin whooped on by the wiz, we got issues
 
#7
Perhaps they are simply playing the way a young team with a 2nd year head coach can play.
I agree there are some natural growing pains but it didn't have to be like this. This should have been a pretty simple offseason and with the right moves we still would have been young but far more competitive.
 
#12
It's disgusting when you hear the personnel and fans still use the words "potential" and "promise" with this batch of scabs. What basketball team are people watching??
 
#13
this is what happens when you have a crappy coach, who didn't develop any of his young players, and then you have to fire him several games into the season in a lockout year with essentially no training camp or summer league. And then of course you have BROKE-@ss owners who wanted to move the team.
 
#14
I think the poster is correct, maybe, no, we don't have a very good team. Certainly our stars are too inexperienced and inconsistent to carry any team. Bring the two of them back in seven years and they'll probably do a good job of keeping us in games. The team we had at the end of last season would have done a much better job tonight and in our games to date.
 
#16
It's disgusting when you hear the personnel and fans still use the words "potential" and "promise" with this batch of scabs. What basketball team are people watching??

That's just the point, they aren't looking at the now, but the future. I think people need to start realizing that being the youngest team in the league with a coach trying to rebuild a house destroyed by it's previous owner is going to have some tough moments. Some people may have gotten the wrong idea this offseason. The Kings weren't going to find an immediate answer in the form of some saviour superstar who single handedly was going to turn this thing around. There weren't any. Even if there were none are going to expedite the natural growth process that a potential star NBA player has to go through. Thank goodness some of them are as advanced as they are.

Take solice in this: Cousins is a beast! Finally something worth building around. Time to put in the right system and then by all means build away.
 
#17
That's just the point, they aren't looking at the now, but the future. I think people need to start realizing that being the youngest team in the league with a coach trying to rebuild a house destroyed by it's previous owner is going to have some tough moments. Some people may have gotten the wrong idea this offseason. The Kings weren't going to find an immediate answer in the form of some saviour superstar who single handedly was going to turn this thing around. There weren't any.

Take solice in this: Cousins is a beast! Finally something worth building around. Time to put in the right system and then by all means build away.

Demarcus does a good job on the glass, but with who is out there someone has to grab rebounds. Wasn't Tyreke our "beast" 2 years ago? Demarcus still has no lift, gets his shot blocked a ton, and is a highly volatile character. Who else are you excited about aside from him (and he still needs a ton of work) Cisco, Salmons, Greene, Outlaw, Etc. all of these guys wouldn't sniff the court on a top 20 team
 
#19
Bring the Reno Bighorns up for 30 days and send the Kings to conditioning school during that time. If it doesn't help then try something else. I only see eight games this season. For this one tonight, my third, I should get my money back.
 
#21
Bring the Reno Bighorns up for 30 days and send the Kings to conditioning school during that time. If it doesn't help then try something else. I only see eight games this season. For this one tonight, my third, I should get my money back.
Free beers from halftime-3rd quarter if you're losing by more than 15 at half at home???
 
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#22
Hate to say it, but the OP is 100% correct and so are the others in this thread who don't think we have a lot of potential with this group. I've been saying this all since last summer. Yes, we've had bad coaching, bad trades, bad owners, etc. but the bottom line is the players on this roster just aren't any good! Sure we have DMC and Reke but like others have said, it's highly suspect that they will become All-Star type players. The rest of the team is pure GARBAGE right now. Hopefully Jimmer develops but Greene, JT, Salmons, Thornton (he's better than the rest of this group), Outlaw, Cisco, are terrible.
 
#24
We are a young team with potential...we have had some good wins this season (Pacers, Spurs, etc.) and some ugly losses like tonight..you have to give it time. I understand the frustration, but the team IS heading in the right direction (IMO).
 
#25
We are a young team with potential...we have had some good wins this season (Pacers, Spurs, etc.) and some ugly losses like tonight..you have to give it time. I understand the frustration, but the team IS heading in the right direction (IMO).
I hope so, because you can't get much worse.
 
#26
We are a young team with potential...we have had some good wins this season (Pacers, Spurs, etc.) and some ugly losses like tonight..you have to give it time. I understand the frustration, but the team IS heading in the right direction (IMO).
What direction is that?
 
#28
What direction is that?
We're young (10 players under 22 if I'm not mistaken)..We have Big Cuz who can be one of the most dominating centers in the league if he is developed correctly..I really think if we can develop the players, we are bound to improve. That leads me to feel we are heading in the right direction..I could be wrong, I just really want to cheer for some winning basketball again, it is tough to get up for games when you are down 30 at half.
 
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Lafayette

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#29
The coach said it right in the post game conference, "This isn't a team, we're just pieces playing a game".
 
#30
Demarcus does a good job on the glass, but with who is out there someone has to grab rebounds. Wasn't Tyreke our "beast" 2 years ago? Demarcus still has no lift, gets his shot blocked a ton, and is a highly volatile character. Who else are you excited about aside from him (and he still needs a ton of work) Cisco, Salmons, Greene, Outlaw, Etc. all of these guys wouldn't sniff the court on a top 20 team
Yet players like them all sniff the court on top 20 teams all the time. It's hard for a role player with no role.

Tyreke can still be a beast but it has to be pointed in the right right direction to work the right way. This team is far different than the one of a few years ago, times change as much as players do. When you build through the draft where you value talent above fit, there are no guarantees that it's ever going to fit. This team is only starting year 3 of being truly bad enough to be in the position to acquire the talent you need to excel. Would be nice to see that all of sudden turn around, but if you really look at teams in similar situations it's rarely as sudden as you perceive it to be.