Maloof's and "Vegas" jackets.

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Was anyone else just a little annoyed that the Maloofs are acting like the Kings are hosting the All-Star game in Vegas?

If they wanted to hand out Vegas jackets, why do it at a Kings game where there is NO Kings players being recognized?

This ticked me off.
 

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Was anyone else just a little annoyed that the Maloofs are acting like the Kings are hosting the All-Star game in Vegas?

If they wanted to hand out Vegas jackets, why do it at a Kings game where there is NO Kings players being recognized?

This ticked me off.
First, no Kings are "being recognized" because none of them deserve to be recognized at this point in time.

Second, since the Maloofs are the "unofficial hosts" of the All-Star festivities, I see no problem at all with their actions.

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17875
 

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The point is Las Vegas isn't an NBA city so the hosting duties aren't going to fall on the "home" team. If you read the article I just posted the link to, you'll see the league is grateful to the Maloofs, especially GEORGE, for helping coordinate everything that needs to be done.

Since the Maloofs do own the Palms they are acting as de facto hosts.

And I stand by my comment. NO KINGS deserve to be going to the All-Star game at this point IMHO.
 
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The point is Las Vegas isn't an NBA city so the hosting duties aren't going to fall on the "home" team. If you read the article I just posted the link to, you'll see the league is grateful to the Maloofs, especially GEORGE, for helping coordinate everything that needs to be done.

Since the Maloofs do own the Palms they are acting as de facto hosts.
I'm just so happy the league is grateful to the Maloofs.

What's that got to do with Sacramento?

And I stand by my comment. NO KINGS deserve to be going to the All-Star game at this point IMHO.
And I stand by my statement of the obvious yet again. There is no Kings representation at the All-Star game. Thus, we are not involved. Thus, any kind of "ceremony" of the All-Star game in ARCO has nothing to do with the Kings.
 
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I'm just so happy the league is grateful to the Maloofs.

What's that got to do with Sacramento?



And I stand by my statement of the obvious yet again. There is no Kings representation at the All-Star game. Thus, we are not involved. Thus, any kind of "ceremony" of the All-Star game in ARCO has nothing to do with the Kings.
I do not understand your reaction. You say "we" are not involved but please do not forget that "they" own this team. They are the unofficial hosts of one of the most important NBA events, they make sume PR. What is the problem?

Now if you say that you blame them for not having one all-star caliber player in their rooster, that s something understandable
 
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I do not understand your reaction. You say we are not involved but please do not forget that they own this team, they are the unofficial hosts and they make sume PR. What is the problem?
Sorry, maybe I'm the only Sacramento native here. I don't like being equated to Las Vegas. Just because they own the team and happen to own a casino in another city, that has nothing to do with Sacramento.
 
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NBA teams are franchises. So Stern could make it as a part of promotion to hand out anything all star related at any NBA game regardless of if that team is represented. Would you have a problem with that?

Maloofs=Vegas
Kings=Maloofs
Kings=Vegas

Until somebody else takes ownership that is (un)fortuantely true
 
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NBA teams are franchises. So Stern could make it as a part of promotion to hand out anything all star related at any NBA game regardless of if that team is represented. Would you have a problem with that?

Maloofs=Vegas
Kings=Maloofs
Kings=Vegas
Last time I checked, we were called the "Sacramento Kings".

Not the Vegas Kings.

Not the Maloof Kings.

If David Stern wanted to hand out All-Star stuff at an NBA game, I expect he'd pick a team that actually was involved with the All-Star game, like Phoenix or Dallas, wouldn't you? Otherwise, it's like a slap in the face to do it in ARCO.
 
#13
I just wondered if there are other posters who are natives of Sacramento. From reading, I find people live all over Northern California and even other states posting here. I wouldn't expect them to have the same reaction I do about my home town.
 
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Last time I checked, we were called the "Sacramento Kings".

Not the Vegas Kings.

Not the Maloof Kings.

If David Stern wanted to hand out All-Star stuff at an NBA game, I expect he'd pick a team that actually was involved with the All-Star game, like Phoenix or Dallas, wouldn't you? Otherwise, it's like a slap in the face to do it in ARCO.
They are as much Sacramento Kings as Maloof Kings.

Why would it be a slap in the face? Are you also implying that everyone who is a Kings fan and goes to ARCO to watch games will not watch the All Star game?
 
#16
They are as much Sacramento Kings as Maloof Kings.
Really? I thought they were the Sacramento Kings before the Maloofs bought 51% of them?

If someone bought out the Maloofs, would they still be the "Maloof Kings"? Or the Sacramento Kings?
 
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IF Stern is breaking down on this Vegas issue, and I'm not sure he's ready to do it I imagine he has some deal in place with the Maloofs to facilitate an ownership swap (if that's what they really want). Why else would he be personally involved in the Arena discussions?

I kind of see the original poster's rationale for being upset. Many Sacramentans are scared about losing this team to Vegas and if it were actually in the works this would be a major slap in the face. And while we can all blame it on the arena its always annoyed me that 2/3rds of all NBA franchises (including most of the expansions that post-date the Kings arrival) have hosted an All Star game since the Kings have been in town and the Maloofs go out of their way to get one in Vegas as "their game". Its obviously a growing source of discomfort to have ownership prominently identified with another city instead of your own. The Carl's Jr. $6,000 burger isn't doing much to help with fan disconnect either.

On the other hand at this moment Stern is involved to help the Kings stay in town and says its very important that they do stay in town, so we should have nothing to worry about. And hopefully once that arena gets done it hosts an All Star game of its own as quickly as possible.
 
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IF Stern is breaking down on this Vegas issue, and I'm not sure he's ready to do it I imagine he has some deal in place with the Maloofs to facilitate an ownership swap (if that's what they really want). Why else would he be personally involved in the Arena discussions?

I kind of see the original poster's rationale for being upset. Many Sacramentans are scared about losing this team to Vegas and if it were actually in the works this would be a major slap in the face. And while we can all blame it on the arena its always annoyed me that 2/3rds of all NBA franchises (including most of the expansions that post-date the Kings arrival) have hosted an All Star game since the Kings have been in town and the Maloofs go out of their way to get one in Vegas as "their game". Its obviously a growing source of discomfort to have ownership prominently identified with another city instead of your own. The Carl's Jr. $6,000 burger isn't doing much to help with fan disconnect either.

On the other hand at this moment Stern is involved to help the Kings stay in town and says its very important that they do stay in town, so we should have nothing to worry about. And hopefully once that arena gets done it hosts an All Star game of its own as quickly as possible.
Thank you.

You expressed it better than I did.
 

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#19
What VF21 edited was my question wondering if people who were responding were perhaps not from Sacramento, but from other cities or even other states.

I think that's a legitimate question and I wondered if that's why I have a more emotional response to Sacramento as my home-town than others might.
I am from Sacramento but haven't lived there in over 10 years and have no desire to return other than for a few days around Christmas or Thanksgiving. But my love of the Kings stems from them being the only hometown team I ever had growing up and if they left I'd be really torn up.
 
#20
My point was about more than jackets.

It was about respect for Sacramento, for the city and for the players.

It was about holding Las Vegas over our heads - literally - with silly, ugly jackets.

Yes, I'm emotional about my home town and my team.

I have this irrational fear that the Maloofs are just begging for a reason to move the Kings to Las Vegas.

I also get annoyed when my team's players are snubbed, even when we had the best team in the league, we barely got Webber on the team. Once Peja and Once Vlade were lucky enough to be reserves, but not at the same time.

Because we are a small-town franchise, there's no way we'll ever get a player "voted" onto the starting line-up. Webber made it once because of the hype from his contract year and the money of the Maloofs to stuff the ballot box.

So sorry if I hold old grudges against the All-Star system.

I also realize that this forum has probably discussed all these topics ad naseum. I apologize for not being here for all those discussions.
 
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FYI - There were some personal confrontations in this thread that have been removed. The question posed in the original post is the topic at hand. I've purged the stuff that got out of hand and reopened the thread.
 
#24
Then hand out the jackets in Vegas, not Sacramento. We and our team have nothing to do with the All-Star game.
To me "our team" right now still consists of the Maloofs.

They were at that game, it was on TNT, they went for it, and it got those ugly jackets on the air. I think it's more that than a subliminal middle finger to Sacramento.
 

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#25
Thanks, VF. Maybe the OP can append his/her comments from 1:04 to the original post to keep this on track since this obviously isn't really about the jackets.
 
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Thanks, VF. Maybe the OP can append his/her comments from 1:04 to the original post to keep this on track since this obviously isn't really about the jackets.
That post at 1:04 was edited so It's not really mine any longer.

I think if people read through, they'll see what it's about.

Thanks for the suggestion.
 
#27
To me "our team" right now still consists of the Maloofs.

They were at that game, it was on TNT, they went for it, and it got those ugly jackets on the air. I think it's more that than a subliminal middle finger to Sacramento.
Interesting... a subliminal middle finger to Sacramento.

Kind of like the $6,000 Burger King ad right before the election?

If one wanted to toss up that middle finger, one might behave like this. Someone once listed all the Maloof's actions before that election that guaranteed it would fail.
 
#28
Interesting... a subliminal middle finger to Sacramento.

Kind of like the $6,000 Burger King ad right before the election?

If one wanted to toss up the middle finger, one might behave like this. Someone once listed all the Maloof's actions before that election that guaranteed it would fail.
well, if they really want the team out of there, i think they'll find a way to do it. i just don't think the vegas jackets are on that order of magnitude, though.
 
#29
I have lived in Sacramento since 1987, all of my adult life, so that makes me a native.

Everybody is to blame for this whole mess. The Maloofs, Sacramento residents, David Stern, the local Sacramento government. But i can not be mad at the Maloofs for doing their job and that is to promote the NBA in anyway possible. Besides "Maloof" is responsible for getting the game in Vegas.

As far as the Kings not being represented in ASG, I do agree with VL21 that not one single player deserves to be in the game. But at least one or two players should be a part of the formal festivities, shouldn't they?:confused: I mean what would it hurt to have Ronnie Price in the Slam Dunk Contest considering he has the most electrifiying dunk of the season. Why can't Kevin Martin represent in the 3 Point Contest considering he is shooting 42 percent on 200 attempts and of those that are higher in percentage only Luther Head and Steve Nash have more attempts. Why can't Francisco Garcia play in the Rookie/Sophomore Game.

Yes I do think Sacramento has been straight up snubbed in the weekend, and in my opinion the Maloofs maybe could have lobbied more for their players to play a greater role in the festivities.
 
#30
I have lived in Sacramento since 1987, all of my adult life, so that makes me a native.

Everybody is to blame for this whole mess. The Maloofs, Sacramento residents, David Stern, the local Sacramento government. But i can not be mad at the Maloofs for doing their job and that is to promote the NBA in anyway possible. Besides "Maloof" is responsible for getting the game in Vegas.

As far as the Kings not being represented in ASG, I do agree with VL21 that not one single player deserves to be in the game. But at least one or two players should be a part of the formal festivities, shouldn't they?:confused: I mean what would it hurt to have Ronnie Price in the Slam Dunk Contest considering he has the most electrifiying dunk of the season. Why can't Kevin Martin represent in the 3 Point Contest considering he is shooting 42 percent on 200 attempts and of those that are higher in percentage only Luther Head and Steve Nash have more attempts. Why can't Francisco Garcia play in the Rookie/Sophomore Game.

Yes I do think Sacramento has been straight up snubbed in the weekend, and in my opinion the Maloofs maybe could have lobbied more for their players to play a greater role in the festivities.
To be fair, K-Mart declined participation in the skills contest.

So we could have had a "representative". But that's not really the kind I'd like to see, myself.

And we all agree, the Kings have no player worthy of participation this year. Except, in an extremely political move, perhaps K-Mart. Although he'd probably rather not play anyway.