Brad has plantar fasciitis

#2
I've had it, and it's one of those injuries that doesn't go away until you stop playing for a significant amount of time. Since he played (or practiced, at least) with the Olympic team all summer, he hasn't really rested it much. It hurts to push off and to jump, and every running step feels like you're being stabbed in the bottom of the foot.
 
#7
or maybe he needs to go to the good feet store.


but yea it sucks, wonder how long he is going to be out for and how the team will do w/o him.
 
#8
Brad needs to go to the good feet store, and I'm not kidding. He needs to wear the plantar foot plate when he's not playing, and then he needs to wear the normal plate that I wear, that you can wear for and still play. The plantar plate you can't play in, it is like a golf ball in your arch to support the tendon.

That's how Peja used to do it, and he still uses the normal support while playing.
 
#9
During the third quarter we started to analyze when the turn-around started. Yup, when we returned without Brad. So, for all the Brad nay sayers, you got it!!! When you play a team with a 7 footer and you don't have one, you are in trouble. He was playing good defense and he has the passing skills, a good shot, and a team player. So, we are hoping he is back soon. This can last from about a week to months--let's hope it for a short time. Go Kings!
 

HndsmCelt

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#10
Well if Mo Taylor has any hopes at all of frvitalizing his career this is his shot... man just reading thatmakes me feel sick. I REALLY hope GP is able to bring someone in!
 

Warhawk

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#11
I've had it. Twice. It really hurts like #$^&&$$%.

He'll need to rest it more than anything else.
 

SLAB

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#12
During the third quarter we started to analyze when the turn-around started. Yup, when we returned without Brad. So, for all the Brad nay sayers, you got it!!! When you play a team with a 7 footer and you don't have one, you are in trouble. He was playing good defense and he has the passing skills, a good shot, and a team player. So, we are hoping he is back soon. This can last from about a week to months--let's hope it for a short time. Go Kings!
More like ...

"When the other team has a seven footer, and you are playing a 6'7 "PF" at C, you are in trouble."

Yea...We need size...
 

Bricklayer

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#13
More like ...

"When the other team has a seven footer, and you are playing a 6'7 "PF" at C, you are in trouble."

Yea...We need size...
That is SO not true!

I have it on Geoff Petrie's own authority that all we really need to do is defend as a team! (perhaps by guys standing on each others' shoulders?)

And are you aware how hard it is to find a 7-footer with a jumpshot like a guard? Try it sometime!

And I also have it on Jerry Reynolds authority that a) the entire league is going small now and 6'7" is really the new 7'0"; and b) that shotblocking is highly overrated since you don't always get the ball back off of every block. If I was a sceptic I might note that Jerry is a hopeless company man insider with a career NBA coaching record of 56-114 and probably a worse record as our GM, but I of course think scepticism is only for bad people.

I also have it on Grant Napear's authority that anybody questioning our front office is an idiot. And on the front office's authority that we are the "gold standard" of fans and gold standard fans don't question their team.

Jeesh -- get it straight before you post next time. :p
 
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SacTownKid

Hall of Famer
#14
There is some truth to the size thing though. I swear every team I have watched and nearly every one is going small for large chunks of the game. I guess they got sick of using untalented big men? I don't get it.

Would be real nice if we didn't waive Loren Woods!!!

You can play through this ailment can't you? I know Tim Duncan has the same condition.
 

Bricklayer

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#15
You can play through this ailment can't you? I know Tim Duncan has the same condition.
I'm pretty sure that varies with the severity, but I know some players have with cortisone shots and whatnot (i.e. Doug). But even in those cases it considerably limits them, and I don't think it heals unless you rest it (although I ma thinkng back to Peja in the early 2002-03 season -- think it got better as the season went on?).
 
#16
I think the transition to small ball is still an urban legend at this point.

Watch as Nash and Barbosa play their brains out, but Diaw and Thomas get dismantled by the actual bigs on other teams. The Suns are 1-3 right now, astonishingly bad for a team so loaded with talent. Utah, Philly and the Lakers are undefeated.

Lakers: 6 guys on roster 6'9"-7'.
Utah: 6 guys on the roster 6'9"-6'11".
Philly: 6 guys on the roster 6'9"-7'.

Sac: 4 guys on the roster 6'9"-7', but one of them is injured, and two of the others are Potapenko and Taylor.

I'll believe the small ball theory when someone who plays small ball wins a championship. Or heck, even makes it into the finals.
 

6th

Homer Fan Since 1985
#17
I think the transition to small ball is still an urban legend at this point.

Watch as Nash and Barbosa play their brains out, but Diaw and Thomas get dismantled by the actual bigs on other teams. The Suns are 1-3 right now, astonishingly bad for a team so loaded with talent. Utah, Philly and the Lakers are undefeated.

Lakers: 6 guys on roster 6'9"-7'.
Utah: 6 guys on the roster 6'9"-6'11".
Philly: 6 guys on the roster 6'9"-7'.

Sac: 4 guys on the roster 6'9"-7', but one of them is injured, and two of the others are Potapenko and Taylor.

I'll believe the small ball theory when someone who plays small ball wins a championship. Or heck, even makes it into the finals.
Excellent post. Thus far, there is no reason to believe that small ball will get you anywhere...except maybe a few wins...but, not enough to go home with a ring.
 
#18
Well maybe that explains why Brad has been on the court but you would never know he was out there. I have never seen someone who has such a good shot always be scared to shoot and then everytime he does he hesitates which makes his shot off. I can only imagine if this dude was aggressive on offense what he could do. He is usually unselfish to the teams hurt.
 
#19
that shotblocking is highly overrated since you don't always get the ball back off of every block
I nearly lost it when I heard Jerry say that.

Pulling at straws?

That's also why guys who play the passing lane and get steals aren't important. I mean, they don't pick it off every time, so, they're really pretty much worthless.

lol
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#20
Well to be fair to Jerry the fact thah blocks do not allways translate into possesions IS a valid reson to value rebounding over shot blocking. Im not sure I want to call shot blocking over rated but I will say this it is not the end all and be all of defense for big men as some folks will try to contend...

Of course when your 7 footer does not bolck shots OR rebound there is just not much to be said for his defense except he fills the lane.
 
#21
I think the transition to small ball is still an urban legend at this point.

Watch as Nash and Barbosa play their brains out, but Diaw and Thomas get dismantled by the actual bigs on other teams. The Suns are 1-3 right now, astonishingly bad for a team so loaded with talent. Utah, Philly and the Lakers are undefeated.

Lakers: 6 guys on roster 6'9"-7'.
Utah: 6 guys on the roster 6'9"-6'11".
Philly: 6 guys on the roster 6'9"-7'.

Sac: 4 guys on the roster 6'9"-7', but one of them is injured, and two of the others are Potapenko and Taylor.

I'll believe the small ball theory when someone who plays small ball wins a championship. Or heck, even makes it into the finals.
Damn, it's hook line and sinker around here. People jump on and off the bandwagon so quickly in Sacto that chiropractors are getting their workout with so much whiplash. Com'n fellas we're fricking THREE games into the season. The Jazz star strong EVERY year 5-0 last year, look at the warriors last year won like 16 of their first 20 somthing. We sucked to start the season and finished ahead of all those teams. 99 yards doth not a touchdown make and here we are about 4 yards forward into the season.

It's a long season and their will be ebbs and flows to the season. Really fans stick with their team through thick and thin. For those of you completely spoiled by the C-Webb era, just go back to the pre-richmond era, oh wait so many of you jumping off the bandwagon don't even remember that era....you know when we had Antoine Carr starting at Center....yeah those days when Mike Peplowski was the fan favorite. Get over it, we're NOT elite yet, but this a very good basketball team with a lot of talent. We'll be better than we are worse and the team WILL improve. Rome wasn't built in a day and with a team with so much turnover in just 3 years, this championship Sacramento Teams won't be built overnight either. Relax and enjoy the season, we will not win them all, but we';; win more than we'll lose and we'll be good...we have Petrie at the helm.
 

SacTownKid

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#22
The actual value of shotblocking is more about the affect it has on the other team rather than the blocked shot itself. Shotblockers probably only really save 2-3 baskets a game with them. But if the other team thinks it will have a tough time and be met with resistence at the basket it sometimes forces them to change up their gameplan.
 

Warhawk

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#23
I'm pretty sure that varies with the severity, but I know some players have with cortisone shots and whatnot (i.e. Doug). But even in those cases it considerably limits them, and I don't think it heals unless you rest it (although I ma thinkng back to Peja in the early 2002-03 season -- think it got better as the season went on?).
My doctor said to stay off it as much as possible and I was taking 800mg Motrin (mostly for the anti-inflammitory effects, as I am not a big pill taker, so I was only taking 1 a day instead of the 2 or 3 recommended as needed for pain). I was fortunate enough to be able to mostly stay off it at work with a temporarily modified work scope.

I had it in each foot once, thankfully at different times. :D

I got in a discussion one time about treatment. Some guy argued that rest wasn't as helpful as actual treatment (stretching, shoe insoles, etc, etc.). All I know is what my doctor recommended and it worked for me.
 

Bricklayer

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#25
Struggling offense not Kings biggest concern
Sam Amick - BEE STAFF WRITER
Published 4:03 pm PST Sunday, November 5, 2006

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By Sam Amick BEE STAFF WRITER

Maybe Chuck Daly was right.

Maybe - as the championship coach once told Eric Musselman long before he was running the Kings - it does take 50 games for a coach to get to know his team.

After going 1-2 on the opening road trip, the Kings certainly seem a ways away from knowing themselves. A number of players are indicating a dire need to work together more on offense, with no shortage of one-on-one attacks, set plays being freelanced and poor shot selection.

Forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim and small forward Ron Artest said there needs to be a concerted effort to attack the rim or concentrate on the post rather than relying on their ice-cold outside game.

Still, even the struggling offense isn't their biggest concern right now. The injury to center Brad Miller, from what I'm told, could keep him out for at least a couple of weeks. Miller left the Bradley Center floor Saturday night in the third quarter. He whipped off his left shoe and proceeded to spend much of the evening with trainer Pete Youngman inspecting his foot that is plagued with plantar fasciitis (inflamation of the foot tissue). That's a taboo term for Kings fans, who saw Doug Christie's days in Sacramento end with the old P.F. plaguing him for so long.

But, hey, at least Miller can rest his feet in his own bed for a while. The Home Opener Tour finally is over, with the Kings set to host their own Monday night after playing the visiting role for three consecutive games.
 

Bricklayer

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#26
I posted the article.

Not sure if that's 100% gospel though just because of the way its worded: " I am told" etc.

In any case, plantar fasciitis is no joke and significantly hinders guys even if they don't sit out, so a couple of weeks would be well wihtin the realm of possibility. And also of course with that injury the chance of it lingering and continuing to detract over a long stretch of the season is always lurking.
 
#27
Damn, it's hook line and sinker around here. People jump on and off the bandwagon so quickly in Sacto that chiropractors are getting their workout with so much whiplash.
No bandwagon here, and I have autographed Olden Polynice pics to prove it.

When people wanted 'Kandi, I wasn't interested. When Dampier was the flavor of the season, I was lukewarm. Said no thanks to Jerome James or Chris Wilcox, because I want us to get our money's worth.

But when draft night got us Doubie, I wrote to the Kings and asked them to PLEASE get us Justin Williams. First time I've written in 21 years, but I felt 100% sure that something needed to be done fast, that filling vital positions had been put off too long.

Then the summer went by, netting us Salmons and Taylor, but losing Williams, even though there was room on the roster and he would have cost almost nothing. We spent more saying hello and goodbye to Woods, who couldn't have been more worthless than some people we kept, could he?

Anyway, that's my story, no bandwagon here. We had Vlade, Scot or Brad, and Keon, now we have Brad. I'm getting really tired of waiting for replacements for the others.
 
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6th

Homer Fan Since 1985
#28
Bandwagon fans? What the heck does that have to do with saying that small ball will never win a championship? It won't. Has nothing to do with bandwagoning.

Since I have been a Kings fan since 1985, I will assume that the bandwagon reference had nothing to do with me. :confused:
 

VF21

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#29
Damn, it's hook line and sinker around here. People jump on and off the bandwagon so quickly in Sacto that chiropractors are getting their workout with so much whiplash. Com'n fellas we're fricking THREE games into the season. The Jazz star strong EVERY year 5-0 last year, look at the warriors last year won like 16 of their first 20 somthing. We sucked to start the season and finished ahead of all those teams. 99 yards doth not a touchdown make and here we are about 4 yards forward into the season.

It's a long season and their will be ebbs and flows to the season. Really fans stick with their team through thick and thin. For those of you completely spoiled by the C-Webb era, just go back to the pre-richmond era, oh wait so many of you jumping off the bandwagon don't even remember that era....you know when we had Antoine Carr starting at Center....yeah those days when Mike Peplowski was the fan favorite. Get over it, we're NOT elite yet, but this a very good basketball team with a lot of talent. We'll be better than we are worse and the team WILL improve. Rome wasn't built in a day and with a team with so much turnover in just 3 years, this championship Sacramento Teams won't be built overnight either. Relax and enjoy the season, we will not win them all, but we';; win more than we'll lose and we'll be good...we have Petrie at the helm.
Calling people bandwagon fans never does anybody any good. If people truly quit being fans, that's their decision. And please don't get on the "real fan" or "true fan" high horse. It's really presumptuous and totally meaningless.
 

VF21

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#30
Now, back to the topic at hand...

Several people I know have said that proper insoles, such as those advertised by Peja and now Kevin (Good Feet), really can help with plantar fasciitis. Hopefully they have them in Brad Miller's size.

(I'm keeping my fingers crossed anyway...)