Fox Watch 2025

Over on Spurs forums they seem to believe they have a horrible whistle as well.
They seem to forget quite easily how they won at Atlanta with the foul called in favor of Wemby and the unsuccessful challenge by the Hawks (it was a tough call in general but it was this foul that determined the winner at the end).
Also at Charlotte it's possible that Fox stepped out of bounds in that last minute (there was no clear replay but the whole Hornets bench was pointing at his feet that were stepping on the line.
And let's not forget how many times Wemby "won" some fouls in the match against the Kings flopping here and there even when not having the ball. So Spurs shouldn't be complaining that much, i think even Fox told "I can't believe how fast 1.4 seconds went by", perhaps implying that the time started running faster before he got the ball in his hands.

On the other hand the Suns vs the Jazz were gifted some tenths of the second when they fouled Markkanen with Booker telling the refs non stop to go review the foul so to add some extra time. The foul took place 0.2" seconds after the in bounding of the ball... at least that's what the refs decided. But ok looking how things turned out later Utah won't really complain about what happened.
 
8 years of muscle memory of how the refs called this dude wasn’t going to change overnight because of some new clothes.

Gonna take a season of rehab at the very minimum. And I still don’t think he gets it because he doesn’t have that demeanor to make the refs want to give him calls.
 
I gotta ask this. How come the KINGS get mocked for becoming the “Chicago Bulls of the West” just with Team Lithuania and a few others surrounding them yet nobody makes the same joke about the Spurs, referring them as the Sacramento Kings of the South?

They have just as many former KINGS in their starting lineup as the KINGS have former Bulls in theirs.

I’m sensing a double standard here.
Probably because the Bulls have been trending DOWN for some seasons now...

And the Kings were trending UP in 2023, before they reverted back to type.

Plus the Spuds got the Kings' star player for a pittance... while the Bulls got Lavine off their books for free. :confused:
 

pdxKingsFan

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Every team complains about the officials......and no fanbase in general, is objective in an unbiased way about the calls against their team
This is true but I decided to google it and looks like there are 13/30 for fewest attempts per game. Kings sit at 19/30. Obviously does not account for pace, and-1, or anything else.
 
I wouldn't necessarily agree that Fox got a better job now. Fox got to go where he wanted, so he should be happy. So, yes very petty, but I'm not surprised.

If we wind up with a better record than the Spurs over the next couple of seasons, I would so he went to a worse job.

Maybe Sabonis will give him a rock hard screen for good measure the next time they meet. :cool:
 
While I don't really have any problem with Fox's stance that you're under no obligation to be friends with your coworkers (and honestly, I have a lot of respect for that stance), he probably doesn't need to be engaging random online nobodies to explain himself. Unfollow if you must, but why stir up a bunch of unnecessary drama? Why give the Kings whiteboard material? What's the point? He was traded in accordance with his wishes. He got what he wanted.

I've generally viewed the Fox trade as an unfortunate situation where everyone was ultimately just protecting their own interests, but Fox is making it awfully difficult these days not to hope for his failure in San Antonio. It was already hard to believe that he and his agent had been operating in good faith with the Kings' front office prior to his trade, and it really doesn't sit well with me now that he seems intent on pouring salt into the wound of his departure. You want out? Okay, done. You can't muster up a sincere goodbye message to the city and its fans? Fine, you were always on the more prickly side. But the antagonism now that he's in a Spurs jersey seems so gratuitous.

I'm not among those Kings fans who took some kind of personal umbrage at Fox's desire to move on. But nor am I going to look back fondly on his time in Sacramento, and nor am I going to be rooting for him to achieve what he couldn't accomplish here.
 
While I don't really have any problem with Fox's stance that you're under no obligation to be friends with your coworkers (and honestly, I have a lot of respect for that stance), he probably doesn't need to be engaging random online nobodies to explain himself. Unfollow if you must, but why stir up a bunch of unnecessary drama? Why give the Kings whiteboard material? What's the point? He was traded in accordance with his wishes. He got what he wanted.

I've generally viewed the Fox trade as an unfortunate situation where everyone was ultimately just protecting their own interests, but Fox is making it awfully difficult these days not to hope for his failure in San Antonio. It was already hard to believe that he and his agent had been operating in good faith with the Kings' front office prior to his trade, and it really doesn't sit well with me now that he seems intent on pouring salt into the wound of his departure. You want out? Okay, done. You can't muster up a sincere goodbye message to the city and its fans? Fine, you were always on the more prickly side. But the antagonism now that he's in a Spurs jersey seems so gratuitous.

I'm not among those Kings fans who took some kind of personal umbrage at Fox's desire to move on. But nor am I going to look back fondly on his time in Sacramento, and nor am I going to be rooting for him to achieve what he couldn't accomplish here.
Well said and ditto.
 

pdxKingsFan

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I wouldn't necessarily agree that Fox got a better job now.
Yeah I don't think he did. It may take some time to see it but Sacramento fans are special. And the org was willing to move heaven and earth to make him happy. He could have gone down as an all time Top 5 Sacramento King but he's likely going to be another guy in San Antonio, and he will be second fiddle at best to Wemby.

Maybe he's ok with that, work life balance and all. Doesn't have to pretend to like/love the fans and town if he really didn't. Maybe he gets a chip out of it but there's also a fair chance he is just a commodity to the Spurs. They aren't very invested in him and didn't even have to give up much to get him, it was largely a salary shed though they might miss Zach Collins a bit.
 

pdxKingsFan

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I also wonder if Sabonis getting that Netflix special last year had to do with anything since Sabonis basically become the face of the franchise over him
I forgot all about the Netflix special since it seems to have benefited Sabonis exactly zero. It's weird because in my mind Sabonis is the one that completely transformed the Kings but the org still pushed Fox as the face of the franchise. I could see tension possibly with Brown pushing to move from DHO centered offense to one that became reliant on Fox's 3-ball but that would be more of a Brown issue.

This is one of those things where maybe you want it all to be roses and it just isn't. Sorta sucks.