Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade

pdxKingsFan

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Hopefully so, but this might be the "kicking tires" phase unfortunately. That had to start this deadline, but with the way this blew up and got exposed by some butthurt folks it's put a ton of pressure on this to get done. Recent history suggests just getting a deal done with parameters like this being set is the only option. Players that have a destination in mind get it, welcome to the NBA.
We can ask him to get the surgery and sideline everything. Or maybe the Spurs reluctance to make a serious offer might make De’Aaron think twice about if that is the team he really wants to go to.
 

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Agree. Screw the Spurs and that 2030 sounds like a long ways away, but otherwise it’s intriguing, outside of Roziers situation. As a single team trade I still like Houston as a trade partner best but sounds like they want to see where their current squad takes them.
Basically we are getting a possible overpay to eat 26 million in completely dead money. He is under contract next year and will certainly be banned.

but maybe there’s an outside chance like the Toronto deal we made that NBA wipes his cap hit off if another team takes him.
 
Blows away anything the Spurs are offering but could use one more pick or two second rounders.

*I need to understand the implications of Terry being banned for life and if there really aren’t any I’m fine as is.
Well the wouldn't be on the team employing him. He can be a dead salary spot for that trade. I don't EVER see the Heat offering that trade, unless Bam is pushing for his buddy hard. Even then, Riley doesnt feel like one to succumb. Also Rozier is 100% a negative asset in that deal.
 

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Well the wouldn't be on the team employing him. He can be a dead salary spot for that trade. I don't EVER see the Heat offering that trade, unless Bam is pushing for his buddy hard. Even then, Riley doesnt feel like one to succumb. Also Rozier is 100% a negative asset in that deal.
The implications are we’d probably be paying luxury tax for a guy that is banned from the league. It is huge salary relief for Miami and possibly fixes the Jimmy problem? I don’t know. Or requires a lot less of a home run in a Jimmy trade to swing back into contention right now.

I don’t think there is any punishment other than dead cap coming to the team that owns his contract. It was an individual act.
 
We’re eating 26 million in dead money for them. And they can still trade Jimmy or maybe he actually decides with Fox to be there.
I assume you’re talking about Rozier he’s basically an expiring contract at this point I see why they give up all that for a guy who isn’t committing to resigning there. They’ve probably offer Ware, Roizer, and picks also can sweeten the deal with assets from a butler trade.
 
Basically we are getting a possible overpay to eat 26 million in completely dead money. He is under contract next year and will certainly be banned.

but maybe there’s an outside chance like the Toronto deal we made that NBA wipes his cap hit off if another team takes him.
Well, it's not like Christie uses a deep rotation!

A $26 million dollar expiring contract shouldn't be too difficult to trade next season either.
 
It was an NBA player that suggested this.
Thanks for clarifying, but I’m still not buying in. As I said, if two left handed players playing together poses a problem, then why wouldn’t the same be true for right handed players?

I know the popular answer will be that there are far less dominant lefties so they don’t play with one another so much, as compared to righties. But I reject that. More so than many other sports, basketball players — especially at the highest levels — tend to be ambidextrous or at least have trained for many years to be ambidextrous. They are accustomed to not only playing with either hand, but have played with a myriad of other players that do.

More so than dominant handedness, I think it would be more about which side of the floor a player tends to favor. While clearly not a professional player, I’m one that always loved to be on the left side of the block. If you have two or more players that naturally favor the same, I can see how that might pose an issue. But dominant handedness? I’m not seeing it.

If the player that said it truly feels that way, I concede that, to him, it may be an issue. However, I just don’t believe it is widespread. This isn’t like catching passes from a lefty QB or hitting off a lefty pitcher.
 
We can ask him to get the surgery and sideline everything. Or maybe the Spurs reluctance to make a serious offer might make De’Aaron think twice about if that is the team he really wants to go to.
Maybe, but there are always backchannel things even if they border on tampering. This seems to always pretty much work out the same these days. Teams and GM's can go full on old man yelling at clouds to set an example, but they then just end up selling for 50 cents on the dollar anyway. Hello Vlade.
 

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Basically we are getting a possible overpay to eat 26 million in completely dead money. He is under contract next year and will certainly be banned.
I'm not sure that he will be banned. It sounds as if the NBA already performed an investigation and did not determine wrongdoing, but now federal investigators have taken up the case.

In the event that he is banned from the league, his contract would come off the books immediately.

One might question whether the NBA would even allow the contract of a player who is currently under an investigation that *might* result in the termination of the contract to be traded at all, I don't know the answer to that.
 

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Getting zion would be a dream for this franchise. Zion is a bonfied freak. There is absolutely no way kings pull this off no matter how much I want it.

Zions star power alone is enough to for a team to keep him. Fox isn't even the best jersey seller on his own team
If so, why would he be available?

Unless he's available 90%+ of the time, you don't trade for that contract. No way.
 

pdxKingsFan

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Apparently Ware has helped take Bams game to the next level by moving him to PF either way I’d take a Herro/Jovic trade over what spurs would offer
The Spurs (or at least their fan base) seems to think Fox already belongs to them and only want to offer dead weight so I am fine just moving on to another team even if we get less than a theoretical "good" package from the Spurs that doesn't exist.
 

pdxKingsFan

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Thanks for clarifying, but I’m still not buying in. As I said, if two left handed players playing together poses a problem, then why wouldn’t the same be true for right handed players?

I know the popular answer will be that there are far less dominant lefties so they don’t play with one another so much, as compared to righties. But I reject that. More so than many other sports, basketball players — especially at the highest levels — tend to be ambidextrous or at least have trained for many years to be ambidextrous. They are accustomed to not only playing with either hand, but have played with a myriad of other players that do.

More so than dominant handedness, I think it would be more about which side of the floor a player tends to favor. While clearly not a professional player, I’m one that always loved to be on the left side of the block. If you have two or more players that naturally favor the same, I can see how that might pose an issue. But dominant handedness? I’m not seeing it.

If the player that said it truly feels that way, I concede that, to him, it may be an issue. However, I just don’t believe it is widespread. This isn’t like catching passes from a lefty QB or hitting off a lefty pitcher.
It's EJ btw:
 

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pdxKingsFan

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I assume you’re talking about Rozier he’s basically an expiring contract at this point I see why they give up all that for a guy who isn’t committing to resigning there. They’ve probably offer Ware, Roizer, and picks also can sweeten the deal with assets from a butler trade.
It's 26 million next year we can't use. We will have to pay Keon Ellis this summer so essentially our roster is set pending any moves involving Huerter and Lyles (or I guess Deebo if he asks out).