Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade

I've given up on it. I 100% have been against any Fox trading, especially with our current streak going. But that ship has sailed, all the dirty laundry is aired out now and it's looking more and more this has been in the pipeline for the entire season.

My take at this point is grab the SAS offer, get Castle/Sochan/however many FRP and just be done with it here at the deadline and we can move forward in a direction. Keeping Fox now past the deadline just keeps us in limbo for another 7 months and can't be good for the locker room and it's not good for the franchise because you're directionless that entire time.

(Of course assuming all these reports that the SAS is the only team he'll re-up with and no other teams are offering comparable value)
THIS!
 
If the Spurs want him for NOTHING, then the Spurs can wait two years while he plays out his contract, waste those years of Fox and Wemby developing chemistry, make sure they clear enough salary space to sign him outright, and hope that in the meantime Fox doesn't change his mind or get badly injured.

Or, they can make us an offer that at the very least matches the market offer from any team not called The Spurs who wants to take a Webber-style risk on convincing Fox to stay. That way, they get Fox for certain, and they get to have him and Wemby develop chemistry before Fox's window closes. Their call.

We don't have to take an insulting offer because Fox only wants to go to one team.
It all depends if he wants 1 spot. I'd doubt if its the the Spurs or nothing. Maybe, we'll see.
 
I can't really be upset at Fox for requesting a trade. He spent 8 years here and was our lone bright spot on a team with a lot of dark days. He was monumental in bringing the Kings out of the gutter and finally making the playoffs.

Looking at the reasons for Fox wanting out, I think it just comes down to personal preference and happiness. We started off the season poorly, but we've played great after firing Brown. However, this bounce back still wasn't enough for Fox to decide he wants to remain here long-term. It sounds like he's just ready for a new basketball chapter elsewhere. If you're the Kings, just get the best offer available. I think we have to see how far we can go without Fox being our #1 guy.

I hope fans don't send hate towards Fox. He's given a lot to this city, and while I would've loved to see him retire a King, we'll be alright without him
<Insert "He made up his mind 10 minutes ago" meme from Breaking Bad here>

Fox's mind was already set on leaving and the groundwork was done. Nothing the Kings do would have changed it. The Kings winning games doesn't mean much to him.

There's nothing worthy of hate with Fox. He did his job for the most part and improved different aspects of his game every year. He hasn't reached his peak form yet. I wish him well.

Anyway, we got games to play. We have good talent and whatever haul we get for Fox will set us up for a good future. I will sleep well today.
 
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That’s what the word is. Not any reason to doubt it.
The news reports actually say, "According to Sam Amick of The Athletic, Fox’s agent, Rich Paul of Klutch Sports Group, recently advised the Kings to consider trading the star guard now, even if it means dealing him to a team outside his preferred list."

That leaves the door open to multiple teams making their best offers. There is not much time, but Monte McNair certainly has an opportunity to make the best deal possible for the Sacramento Kings.

https://www.talkbasket.net/192410-deaaron-fox-prefers-spurs-agent-open-to-others
 
If these reports are true, Fox has picked his spot. A spot that can take him in for NOTHING. Sorry, but this is likely in the hands of Fox's folks now.
Yes and no. We don't have to trade him right now. We can wait until the summer to complete a better trade if need be. The very worst thing we can do as an organization is think to ourselves "Well, he's asked for a trade, let's meet his demands and send him to where he wants to go even though we can probably get a better offer elsewhere." I am sure the Kings will do what they can to send Fox where he would like to go, but this is a business and the future of the team is at stake here. We can't afford to goof this up because of "feelings."

It may seem harsh, but this is a business. He is being paid handsomely regardless and has to understand that this isn't some fairy tale. Team and its future come first. Always has and always will and that holds true for all organizations.
 
People really have been forgetting DeMar lately. He's literally the Fox replacement in the interim. Get picks and wait and see. If the team w/o Fox doesn't produce oh well. You now have literally two paths to follow. Rebuild or win now.
Demar reminds me of Iguodala in the Dubs although from the bench. An effective role player who helps in short term, not the core. If we get a good haul that can effectively help with our defense specially the wing plus can take some scoring load then we are good to go.
 

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That’s what the word is. Not any reason to doubt it.
That doesn't mean someone won't convince themselves they can woo him over the next 18 months. It might knock the value of their offer down, but if their offer is better than San Antonio who doesn't have to offer their best offer, suddenly San Antonio has to offer a legitimate offer.

Kings took that shot with Webber and were rewarded. I am certain there are other teams that gambled and won the same way.
 
If the Spurs want him for NOTHING, then the Spurs can wait two years while he plays out his contract, waste those years of Fox and Wemby developing chemistry, make sure they clear enough salary space to sign him outright, and hope that in the meantime Fox doesn't change his mind or get badly injured.

Or, they can make us an offer that at the very least matches the market offer from any team not called The Spurs who wants to take a Webber-style risk on convincing Fox to stay. That way, they get Fox for certain, and they get to have him and Wemby develop chemistry before Fox's window closes. Their call.

We don't have to take an insulting offer because Fox only wants to go to one team.
Indeed. Fox has leverage here, but he doesn't have a no trade clause. Rich Paul and Klutch have power, and it seems like they're throwing their weight around, but ultimately, Fox's contract is with the Kings, and if they want to wait for the best offer, they can. Good GMs don't blink in these situations.
 
That's why I've proposed you take Castle and Sochan plus as many picks as you can get. Starting with ATLs picks, but I'm asking for 6. Need 3 or 4 minimum though. Then you use one or two of those to get Cam and Sharpe for Huerter and Lyles (sorry but gotta get rid of all things Klutch so Trey gotta go). You've improved positions 3-5, have a long term PG prospect, and hopefully you've got ATL's pick in this draft to further fill need. Plus you open up time for Keon and Devin.

You are definitely losing talent today but you are filling up the rest of the roster adding defense, shooting and a backup 5, picks and Castle in 3-5 years is either out of the league or an emerging star.
so would look something like this? Def more balanced Plus the picks. assume monk/castle and Keegan/cam would all be interchangeable at their respective positions
PG-castle/ Carter
SG-Monk/Ellis
PF-Johnson/Sochan
C-Sabonis/Sharpe
SF-Murray\? Blanking on this
 

pdxKingsFan

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And if Fox lands on another team that team will be able to offer him a better (longer) contract than Spurs could. Spurs aren't tied down in 2026 but if he gets in a situation that he likes, the kids and Reece like, they may be happy to take a 5 year max deal rather than 4 and not move again.
 
If the Spurs want him for NOTHING, then the Spurs can wait two years while he plays out his contract, waste those years of Fox and Wemby developing chemistry, make sure they clear enough salary space to sign him outright, and hope that in the meantime Fox doesn't change his mind or get badly injured.

Or, they can make us an offer that at the very least matches the market offer from any team not called The Spurs who wants to take a Webber-style risk on convincing Fox to stay. That way, they get Fox for certain, and they get to have him and Wemby develop chemistry before Fox's window closes. Their call.

We don't have to take an insulting offer because Fox only wants to go to one team.
Best perspective I’ve seen. I agree. Let him/them wait it out. He can pout if he wants but his contract is ours till it’s not. If The Spurs want him, then they need to pony up now. There would be a lot of risk on Fox’s part by waiting. Monty should NOT just accept garbage for Fox now. With 2 postseasons coming up before his contract expires there might just be a team that would offer up a good player and draft picks to give themselves a chance. Lots of time between now and then. We better not just roll over and get bamboozled. Monte doesn’t strike as stupid or someone who can be strongarmed. Best case scenario is that it turns out to be a win/win for both parties.
 

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so would look something like this? Def more balanced Plus the picks. assume monk/castle and Keegan/cam would all be interchangeable at their respective positions
PG-castle/ Carter
SG-Monk/Ellis
PF-Johnson/Sochan
C-Sabonis/Sharpe
SF-Murray\? Blanking on this
Castles not really a point guard

Sabonis/Sharpe
Keegan/Cam/Sochan
Demar/Cam/ Keldon or whoever we get to make salaries work
Keon/Castle
Monk/Carter
 

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so would look something like this? Def more balanced Plus the picks. assume monk/castle and Keegan/cam would all be interchangeable at their respective positions
PG-castle/ Carter
SG-Monk/Ellis
PF-Johnson/Sochan
C-Sabonis/Sharpe
SF-Murray\? Blanking on this
You've left out DeMar and I think that we probably might have DeMar and Keegan continue to start but as time goes on you have flexibility to make Keegan and Cam the starters.
 

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Another good reason for Spurs to go right now is have Fox get the finger surgery now. Super max is gone so why not. If they give us ATL's pick they might still be a lotto team this year and get one more swing at a great pick. Stupid NBA being what they are they might even rig it for SA again.
 
So the report is there was a trade offer for Fox yesterday. Why would the Kings take that to Klutch? Because it was likely contingent on Fox resigning with the team. The only way I can think the Kings present that to Klutch is because they would actually have taken the trade if Klutch agreed. Now I’m super curious as to what team that was….clearly not SA, probably not Miami or Houston? BUT it must have been a pretty damn good deal — unless Monte/Wes are really that dumb to take a so so offer they wouldn’t have accepted to Klutch which then led to all this mess.
So we’re being managed by actually dumb mother ****ers you don’t take a trade to Klutch if it’s not from SA, Miami, or Houston. How do you not know what team he’d sign off on this isn’t rocket science
 

Tetsujin

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So we’re being managed by actually dumb mother ****ers you don’t take a trade to Klutch if it’s not from SA, Miami, or Houston. How do you not know what team he’d sign off on this isn’t rocket science
It may have been a good deal from a team not on De’Aaron’s list that the Kings brought to Klutch to give them an indicator of what the teams on Fox’s list would need to bring them.