[Game] Kings vs Milwaukee Bucks - 3/12/2024 7:00PM PST/10:00PM EST

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that's Dame though, he's a capable and able long distance shot maker. If it was Crowder or Malik doing that then yeah
Yeah but it was more of a "whatever" vibe. They made him work to get his looks. The Kings can't get too hyped about his W, but Keon in the first half was a menace on D.
 

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didn't watch the game but reading through these pages it seems the Bucks were missing open 3 pointers which is a nice change of pace for one night and it can happen to even the best of the best in the league. I think this is the first win versus them when Giannis plays too, someone correct me if I'm wrong here. Time to lose by 20 tomorrow, get ready for it Slab.
It was the best defense by the Kings' guards I've seen all season. The Bucks didn't have many open shots and were feeling the pressure of the Kings' guards.
 

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Yeah but it was more of a "whatever" vibe. They made him work to get his looks. The Kings can't get too hyped about his W, but Keon in the first half was a menace on D.
I don't remember who the opponent was but it was during this Bucks road trip, Dame took a one legged three point shot and it was on line and just hit the front rim and it wasn't even a end of shot clock type of shot, that about sums up Dames mentality that he feels he can make any shot, anywhere on the floor
 
It was the best defense by the Kings' guards I've seen all season. The Bucks didn't have many open shots and were feeling the pressure of the Kings' guards.
Kings did a good job of keeping the Bucks guards in front of them. The defense on Dame was exceptional. One of the best defensive outings.

However, they did give up open corner threes where the Bucks went 2-for-17. Beasley missed quite a bunch.
 
The gift and curse of this team is the fact that they don't let themselves get too up or down. No single game can affect the next one, which is good after a bad loss, but, after a game like tonight, we absolutely want and need a lot of this momentum to carry over lol LIGHT THE BEAM! I hope Keegan is OK btw.
 
Remember how stunned we would have been right now up 19 pts on the Bucks a couple of years ago? Now we’re only mildly confused that we weren’t this good last game!
They always come out a bit drunk during the matinee games, but they threw me off by waiting until the 2nd half to play like pure crap. Kinda reminded me of that godforsaken game 7 with the dubs. Whoever scheduled that for 3PM or whatever it was, is going to hell lol
 

hrdboild

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Since Kyle and Katie brought up Mike Brown's post-game laptop press conference moment against the Bucks on Jan. 14th -- I decided to see if my suspicions were accurate regarding the infamous pettiness of NBA referees and checked the free throw disparity in every Kings matchup since. The Kings have played 25 games since Jan. 14th and have had the advantage in free throw attempts 6 times. They've tied for FTA with their opponent twice and been disadvantaged 17 times. The overall attempts are 485 for the Kings and 590 for their opponents.

Since box scores also list the names of the officiating crew, I included those as well but didn't see any obvious patterns. I guess if I were to draw any conclusions here it would be this: If it seems like the Kings are at a frequent disadvantage in terms of trips to the free throw line, the data does back this up. The Kings have lost exactly 105 points to FTA disparity over those 25 games (-4.2 FTA per game on average). Of course it's worth noting that the Kings are also last in the league in FT % so they're not doing themselves any favors either by smoking 26% of the free throw attempts they do get.

KINGS FTA - FTA OPPONENT (Losses) Names of Officials
16 - 35 Bucks Referees: Pat Fraher, Curtis Blair, Phenizee Ransom
23 - 27 Rockets (L) Referees: Kevin Scott, Ashley Moyer-Gleich, Sha'Rae Mitchell
18 - 21 Spurs Referees: Derek Richardson, James Williams, Karl Lane
12 - 25 Lakers Referees: Derrick Collins, Kevin Cutler, Scott Twardoski
18 - 22 Bulls (L) Referees: Bill Kennedy, Gediminas Petraitis, Mousa Dagher
24 - 32 TWolves Referees: Derek Richardson, Mark Lindsay, CJ Washington
13 - 11 Nuggets (L) Referees: Curtis Blair, Brett Nansel, Aaron Smith
12 - 25 Heat (L) Referees: Tony Brothers, Andy Nagy, Tyler Ford
22 - 20 Clippers Referees: Zach Zarba, Marat Kogut, Dedric Taylor
14 - 16 Spurs Referees: Josh Tiven, Brett Nansel, John Butler
19 - 22 Nuggets Referees: David Guthrie, Nate Green, Ray Acosta
24 - 36 Suns (L) Referees: Derek Richardson, Brian Forte, Curtis Blair
13 - 27 Thunder (L) Referees: Kevin Scott, Scott Twardoski, Matt Kallio
18 - 28 Nuggets Referees: Marc Davis, J.T. Orr, Dannica Mosher
22 - 22 Pistons (L) Referees: Sean Wright, Mitchell Ervin, Danielle Scott
12 - 17 Cavs (L) Referees: Scott Wall, CJ Washington, Ben Taylor
29 - 22 Bulls Referees: Mark Lindsay, Michael Smith, Leon Wood
28 - 24 Pacers Referees: Marc Davis. Aaron Smith. Che Flores

18 - 23 Heat (L) Referees: Ed Malloy, Dedric Taylor, Brandon Adair
10 - 28 Grizzlies Referees: Jason Goldenberg, David Guthrie, Ray Acosta
30 - 18 Mavs Referees: Tony Brothers, Ashley Moyer-Gleich, Intae Hwang
19 - 23 Warriors Referees: Eric Dalen, Kevin Scott, John Butler
27 - 27 Hawks Referees: Scott Foster, J.T. Orr, Danielle Scott
32 - 19 Pacers (L) Referees: James Capers, J.B. DeRosa, Brandon Adair
12 - 20 Suns (L) Referees: James Williams, Michael Smith, Scott Twardoski

KINGS (485 FTA) - (590 FTA) KINGS OPPONENTS

20 - 32 Bucks (L) Referees: Brian Forte, David Guthrie, Intae Hwang (JAN 14th)
 
May be an overreaction, but I genuinely would be OK with Keon being the starter at the SG spot next year. He’s the perfect glue guy for the team and knows his role. Plus, you can’t rule out further development and him improving his offensive game. He just rounds out the starting lineup so well.

Fox/Mitchell
Ellis/Monk
Keegan/Barnes
?/Lyles/Sasha
Sabonis

Is a very good rotation, I’d trade for a star forward to fill in next to Keegan. Huerter seems to not be the greatest fit for want Brown wants and what this team needs. Use all our future firsts and Huerter plus filler to trade for a star forward.
 
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hrdboild

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May be an overreaction, but I genuinely would be OK with Keon being the starter at the SG soot next year. He’s the perfect glue guy for the team and knows his role. Plus, you can’t rule out further development and him improving his offensive game. He just rounds out the starting lineup so well.

Fox/Mitchell
Ellis/Monk
Keegan/Barnes
?/Lyles/Sasha
Sabonis

Is a very good rotation, I’d trade for a star forward to fill in next to Keegan. Huerter seems to not be the greatest fit for want Brown wants and what this team needs. Use all our future firsts and Huerter plus filler to trade for a star forward.
I don't think anyone is trading us a star forward for K'Von and any number of picks and we wouldn't be able to afford another max contract anyway. But I do like the general concept here and it's more or less the same guys I would keep. I still think we wind up keeping just one of Lyles or Vezenkov, not both. And we really just need a defensive role-player at that PF spot between Keegan and Sabonis. Ideally they would also be able to shoot the corner three but even if their range only goes out to 18 feet, that should be enough to keep defenders from completely sagging off them.

We would be losing some floor spacing without Huerter at SG but Keegan needs to shoot more of those movement threes going forward anyway. He was absolutely elite at it last season and the emphasis on getting him more isolation touches this year and his general tendency to defer when not directly called upon seems to have eroded his shooting efficiency. If Keegan gets all of Huerter's DHO three point attempts and Ellis can continue to make his catch and shoot threes, I think this sort of lineup has a lot of potential.
 
I don't think anyone is trading us a star forward for K'Von and any number of picks and we wouldn't be able to afford another max contract anyway. But I do like the general concept here and it's more or less the same guys I would keep. I still think we wind up keeping just one of Lyles or Vezenkov, not both. And we really just need a defensive role-player at that PF spot between Keegan and Sabonis. Ideally they would also be able to shoot the corner three but even if their range only goes out to 18 feet, that should be enough to keep defenders from completely sagging off them.

We would be losing some floor spacing without Huerter at SG but Keegan needs to shoot more of those movement threes going forward anyway. He was absolutely elite at it last season and the emphasis on getting him more isolation touches this year and his general tendency to defer when not directly called upon seems to have eroded his shooting efficiency. If Keegan gets all of Huerter's DHO three point attempts and Ellis can continue to make his catch and shoot threes, I think this sort of lineup has a lot of potential.
It wouldn’t even necessarily have to be a star forward per se, I think you could get a guy like Mikal Bridges who is more of an elite roleplayer than a star, and still have a great lineup.

I agree, if we keep Barnes and trade for another forward, having both Lyles and Sasha would be too redundant imo. Although, one of those two likely would be included in a big trade as salary filler imo.
 
Hrmm... Doctor Internet tells me that Ellis is at least two inches taller than I thought he was... I guess, if you think he can be the full-time starter at SG, the time is now to pull the trigger on trading Big Nasty Red Velvet to get the Kings to the the next step.
Its past the trade deadline, and I honestly like what velvet brings. But give me Velvet in a bench role and Keon in his place starting and Im quite happy.
 
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