What an abysmal offseason.
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The Pelicans have the assets to potentially add Scoot+Anfernee (trading Zion + pick) and Allen (trading Jonas + Naji + picks). The Kings don't have the assets to get JJJ and Bane without giving up key players.
Anyway, is it so difficult to answer a hypothetical question without me having to pull teeth? It's a relatively straight forward question...
Funnily enough, I saw this hypothetical roster posted on a Pels forum, and a lot of Pels fans think they would be worse off without Zion... but you seem to feel this would be way better than what they have now.
Anyway, is it so difficult to answer a hypothetical question without me having to pull teeth? It's a relatively straight forward question...
Funnily enough, I saw this hypothetical roster posted on a Pels forum, and a lot of Pels fans think they would be worse off without Zion... but you seem to feel this would be way better than what they have now.
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Trust me your aren’t alone on the Edwards bandwagon. I watch summer league specifically to see how Edwards and Queta progress. Where they play are our best areas for growth as a team. Jones seems like a great kid but his improvement over Huerter is constrained.
btw. I love Davion but watching Booker just rise and shoot over him really showed how his size limits him defensively. But if you want a person to stop Curry, Ja, Fox or Scoot he is your guy. If I were New Orleans I would absolutely trade a wing for him.
btw. I love Davion but watching Booker just rise and shoot over him really showed how his size limits him defensively. But if you want a person to stop Curry, Ja, Fox or Scoot he is your guy. If I were New Orleans I would absolutely trade a wing for him.
I honestly don't think that at this stage, with his injury history, Zion+pick can fetch you Scoot+Anfernee.
I know it's hypothetical, but since you presented it as a plausible case as against the cheeky comment about Kings getting some players, just wanted to weigh in.
Add to this the fact that Blazers will be trading Dame. They will likely build around Scoot and some critical piece they can get for Dame.
I know it's hypothetical, but since you presented it as a plausible case as against the cheeky comment about Kings getting some players, just wanted to weigh in.
Add to this the fact that Blazers will be trading Dame. They will likely build around Scoot and some critical piece they can get for Dame.
I don't think we have anywhere near the assets for an OG trade, unless we're willing to give up Keegan. I would love to eat my words, but it's just not going to happen with a deal centered around Mitchell/Huerter unless we get rid of our Atlanta pick protections and then are willing to throw in future firsts.
We can't even accurately predict how actual teams will fare, let alone hypothetical ones. But I will say that Pelicans team wouldn't scare me nearly as much as the current team if Zion were to actually stay healthy. Scoot may be great in time, but it will be a couple years before he's a real threat. And that roster doesn't have a dominant scorer and is lacking in outside shooting in the starting lineup, even if you replace Simons with McCollum as I'm sure he actually would start in this hypothetical.
Oh, I'm not saying that I would even remotely think about giving up what is being asked to bring over OG. I think it's dumb that apparently other teams can make hypothetical trades that have no way of happening in an effort to minimize the stance that our FO has taken this off-season, which was to stay the course and let things simmer a little more.
All of the smoke coming out about how the Kings feel about Murray is an extremely strong indication there is a fire there. I doubt any team is seriously calling the Kings about Keegbot.
Masai is a numbskull anyway. Got lucky in the Kawhi deal, but other than that, he is no genius. He's solid but not spectacular.
Toronto would be smart to go for a deal centered around Huerter and Mitchell with a future first (26) and a future swap, maybe a couple seconds. OG is not reupping next year to play with their team as currently constructed.
It might not be a bad idea to explore a sign and trade next offseason when the 24 pick conveys.
Edit: I would also add all of the angst and second guessing of the offseason are pretty stupid at this point. No one move was going to make the Kings immediate championship contenders. Mike and Monte have 2 more offseasons (at least) to figure that out. This wasn't a make or break offseason.
I actually think it was smart of them to not hamstring this team going forward. Resign Monk next off-season and hope your new players (Vezey, Jones, Kessler) have shown enough to either slide in for more time or be used as a trade piece for a bigger deal.
Nome of the moves being thrown around in this and other threads move the needle so much we would instantly be in the conversation (and let's be real, it's Sac, so we will always be sneaking up on someone until we aren't).
I dont have the knowledge or the time to start in on who will be available next offseason and what our capspace will be like, but fear not compares! Twslam did a solid thread last year about this offseason so I'm sure discussions will be had.
Now forgive me while I put my seat belt on as I'm here for the offensive explosion we are soon to behold come October!
Masai is a numbskull anyway. Got lucky in the Kawhi deal, but other than that, he is no genius. He's solid but not spectacular.
Toronto would be smart to go for a deal centered around Huerter and Mitchell with a future first (26) and a future swap, maybe a couple seconds. OG is not reupping next year to play with their team as currently constructed.
It might not be a bad idea to explore a sign and trade next offseason when the 24 pick conveys.
Edit: I would also add all of the angst and second guessing of the offseason are pretty stupid at this point. No one move was going to make the Kings immediate championship contenders. Mike and Monte have 2 more offseasons (at least) to figure that out. This wasn't a make or break offseason.
I actually think it was smart of them to not hamstring this team going forward. Resign Monk next off-season and hope your new players (Vezey, Jones, Kessler) have shown enough to either slide in for more time or be used as a trade piece for a bigger deal.
Nome of the moves being thrown around in this and other threads move the needle so much we would instantly be in the conversation (and let's be real, it's Sac, so we will always be sneaking up on someone until we aren't).
I dont have the knowledge or the time to start in on who will be available next offseason and what our capspace will be like, but fear not compares! Twslam did a solid thread last year about this offseason so I'm sure discussions will be had.
Now forgive me while I put my seat belt on as I'm here for the offensive explosion we are soon to behold come October!
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Good reply. I was asking the question from a strategic point of view, as a worst case scenario. That hypothetical Pels roster would be a worst-case-scenario to me... because of the overall talent, varying skill-sets and options that their coach could use. Anyway, I asked a simple worst-case-scenario question... but then got faced with counter-hypotheticals of JJJ, Bane, OG, etc, it honestly felt like pulling teeth, lol. 
The question wasn't even aimed at the Kings FO, cause I do not think this off-season was abysmal (although it could have been better).
The question wasn't even aimed at the Kings FO, cause I do not think this off-season was abysmal (although it could have been better).
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Good reply. I was asking the question from a strategic point of view, cause I was always taught to include the worst case scenario. That hypothetical Pels roster would be a worst-case-scenario to me... because of the overall talent, varying skill-sets and options that their coach could use.... but it does not seem like we have many posters here who like their core beliefs being questioned, even in theory. Our guys is the bestest!! Sports fans! Anyway, I asked a simple worst-case-scenario question... but then got faced with counter-hypotheticals of JJJ, Bane, OG, etc, it honestly felt like pulling teeth, lol. The question wasn't even aimed at the Kings FO, cause I do not think this off-season was abysmal (although I think it could have been better).
Anyway, I asked a simple worst-case-scenario question... but then got faced with counter-hypotheticals of JJJ, Bane, OG, etc, it honestly felt like pulling teeth, lol. The question wasn't even aimed at the Kings FO, cause I do not think this off-season was abysmal (although I think it could have been better).