[Game] Sacramento Kings (3) @ Golden State Warriors (6) (WCDS Game 3, 2-0) 4/20/2023 7:00pm Pacific 10:00pm Eastern (TNT)

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I said this before the game started, so no hindsight. The KINGS let the Warriors off the hook tonight taking so many three’s. Just lazy uninspired basketball. Hoping for the 3-run homer instead of manufacturing points.

With Dray and Payton OUT, this was the perfect situation to attack attack attack the rim. But instead they settle for 47 three’s and only make 11 of them. Just unacceptable and DUMB.

Three games in a row now that the KINGS start off awful from the perimeter. Yet they won’t STOP settling.

The Warriors had two poor defenders in their starting lineup and no real rim protection yet the KINGS don’t adjust and take advantage. It just irks me to no end.

Lastly, I don’t want to hear hyperbole about Kevon Looney. It’s not hard to gather 20 rebounds when the opponent can’t put the ball in the basket. The Warriors have never won because Looney is on their roster. He’s a run of the mill player. There are probably a couple dozen no-name players across the league that could do what Looney does and more.

They have to fill out a 15-man roster with someone and he benefits from Steph, Klay, Poole and Wiggins drawing all the attention. Next game he’ll probably go for 4 and 6.

That’s all I got, and really all that needs to be said.
 
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It's almost like he got it in his mind that the other guys are a better analytical option. Not the right mindset. We need him assertive when opportunities are there. Otherwise he's not worth the next huge contract
We have an All-Star who’s not actively looking for a way out the door. Playoff performer or not (still not convinced one way or another) he’s worth the money, because new culture or not, we’re not getting any other max guy to come to Sacramento.
 
I’m more worried about next game than this one honestly. Green will fire up the team and crowd. Unless Sobonis stops letting fans get to his head we will have problems. He played terrible today and set the tone for rest of the team. Those garbage prep talks looks fake and pressed. Monk played like monk. He’s up and down we can’t depend on him to bring us home. He’s a X factor like Poole and Poole will hit sooner or later as well
 
We have an All-Star who’s not actively looking for a way out the door. Playoff performer or not (still not convinced one way or another) he’s worth the money, because new culture or not, we’re not getting any other max guy to come to Sacramento.
Not getting to deep into it, I think a few of us have debated about the next step for this franchise "star" wise, lets ride the wave but getting another max guy to come to Sacramento can happen in a few different ways and you better believe, playing with a player like Domas will be a HUGE reason why they'd want to do it.
 
From what I’ve seen, he’s passive aggressive, has a distaste for fans criticizing players, and very defensive when people call him out when it’s a freaking opinion forum. It’s very bizarre
Notice how Lofi hasn’t posted since his comment lol. I wonder why? Let me leave for tonight before I get suspended for having an opinion. Good night fellas. See y’all Sunday
 
People can criticize Keegan all they want, but I’d much rather see him get the open looks Huerter keeps missing. They just refuse to run any plays for him. Meanwhile Huerter‘s shots look like I’m taking them. They’re mostly not even close.

Let’s see if Keegan goes 1-6 every game getting open looks in rhythm.
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus

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From what I’ve seen, he’s passive aggressive, has a distaste for fans criticizing players,
This message board has a long-standing policy of not allowing posters to 'bash' players. The problem with posters such as yourself is that you don't agree with where we draw the line between 'criticism' and 'bashing.' That's fine, you don't have to agree, but it's not your call, whether you agree or not.

... and very defensive when people call him out...
I'm not sure how much tolerance you think I'm supposed to have for people "calling me out," as you put it, but I assure you that we're not drawing our lines in the same place on that, either. I feel like I put up with a very reasonable amount of grief from people who don't come at me sideways, trying to pick fights with me.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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I'm not an x's and o's guy but are the Warriors just packing the paint and inviting the Kings to shoot the 3? The Kings have taken 47 3's this game and that feels like a tad bit too many for a team that has been struggling from there lately.
No, you've got it right. IIRC, Mark Jones said during Game 1 that Steve Kerr said that his strategy for the series was exactly that.
 
I'm not an x's and o's guy but are the Warriors just packing the paint and inviting the Kings to shoot the 3? The Kings have taken 47 3's this game and that feels like a tad bit too many for a team that has been struggling from there lately.
I wouldn’t say they’re packing the paint. The KINGS are forcing up a lot of contested 3’s. For no reason. Especially tonight against a team minus its two best defensive players.
 

pdxKingsFan

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No, you've got it right. IIRC, Mark Jones said during Game 1 that Steve Kerr said that his strategy for the series was exactly that.
Best I can tell is the Kings hit just enough to open up some penetration in the first two games but were so far off the mark tonight that they could double down on this as the night wore on just daring the Kings to shoot. And maybe having some of the younger guys out there made this strategy just a hair more effective.

A wise person on this forum once said that even though you don't want Fox taking 3s too often he needs to do it to keep the D honest. Thing is if Fox is your best 3 point shooter out there on a night, you're just effed.

Dunno what we have to do to get good Kevin back. If there is a switch to flip, please, Sunday is the day.
 
I wouldn’t say they’re packing the paint. The KINGS are forcing up a lot of contested 3’s. For no reason. Especially tonight against a team minus its two best defensive players.
Sure but then there were quite a few that were also pretty open looks. We're just not making them. Feels like as long as it's not Huerter or Murray shooting the warriors are fine with the other guys shooting them. They have done a good job on those 2 thus far.
 

pdxKingsFan

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I wouldn’t say they’re packing the paint. The KINGS are forcing up a lot of contested 3’s. For no reason. Especially tonight against a team minus its two best defensive players.
eh, there were multiple times it seemed like guys had 5 seconds to set their feet and square up and still were clanging some of the worst shots I've seen all season.
 

pdxKingsFan

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Sure but then there were quite a few that were also pretty open looks. We're just not making them. Feels like as long as it's not Huerter or Murray shooting the warriors are fine with the other guys shooting them. They have done a good job on those 2 thus far.
TD and Lyles were extremely disappointing. And damn that Domas 3 attempt before Brown finally had seen enough.
 
It's almost like he got it in his mind that the other guys are a better analytical option. Not the right mindset. We need him assertive when opportunities are there. Otherwise he's not worth the next huge contract
Uh, yes, yes he is.

Sabonis is already one of the most talented players the Kings franchise has ever had and just got done putting together one of the best Kings seasons ever. Another player of his caliber just isn't walking through the door unless we totally reset everything and "competed" for #1 picks every year. And look how that turned out over the last 16 years of suck?

Kings just aren't going to do better than Fox/Sabonis. Who are both All-NBA players, so I'm not sure where this whole 'next contract" nonsense is coming from.
 
I remember most of us on here saying that even if the Kings did make the playoffs that we still had plenty of problems to fix, and thus we would not go very far in the playoffs because of this.... I wonder what's changed for fans to think that we should sweep the defending champion Warriors? The first year to the playoffs is always difficult, because it's a different type of pressure in the playoffs. I don't think it's a coincidence that we were absolutely on fire most of the season and scoring a un-godly amount of points, but once we entered the playoffs, are shots are suddenly not falling. We just don't have the playoff experience yet, and it's showing...... I'm sure if we can make a run at the playoffs next year, we will be much better.
 
This message board has a long-standing policy of not allowing posters to 'bash' players. The problem with posters such as yourself is that you don't agree with where we draw the line between 'criticism' and 'bashing.' That's fine, you don't have to agree, but it's not your call, whether you agree or not.


I'm not sure how much tolerance you think I'm supposed to have for people "calling me out," as you put it, but I assure you that we're not drawing our lines in the same place on that, either. I feel like I put up with a very reasonable amount of grief from people who don't come at me sideways, trying to pick fights with me.
So defensive, like I said. Always have a long winded narrative don’t you?
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Uh, yes, yes he is.

Sabonis is already one of the most talented players the Kings franchise has ever had and just got done putting together one of the best Kings seasons ever. Another player of his caliber just isn't walking through the door unless we totally reset everything and "competed" for #1 picks every year. And look how that turned out over the last 16 years of suck?

Kings just aren't going to do better than Fox/Sabonis. Who are both All-NBA players, so I'm not sure where this whole 'next contract" nonsense is coming from.
If we're going to be honest, in an alternate reality where all the teams in the west are healthy all season long, the Kings are a 6th seed. Maybe a seventh. Reacting to this game the way that some Kings fans are reacting to it, as if they thought that this Kings team ought to be title contenders, based on record and seeding, is wild to me.

The Kings are ahead of expectations. And I really hope that McNair isn't as reactionary as some of y'all are, when it comes to making improvements to the roster in the offseason.
 
Best I can tell is the Kings hit just enough to open up some penetration in the first two games but were so far off the mark tonight that they could double down on this as the night wore on just daring the Kings to shoot. And maybe having some of the younger guys out there made this strategy just a hair more effective.

A wise person on this forum once said that even though you don't want Fox taking 3s too often he needs to do it to keep the D honest. Thing is if Fox is your best 3 point shooter out there on a night, you're just effed.

Dunno what we have to do to get good Kevin back. If there is a switch to flip, please, Sunday is the day.
What makes the Kings offense so great is there's so many levels you have to stop for us to put up a stinker.

-Fox an elite ISO creator/scorer and especially elite efficiency around the rim. Elite efficiency overall too, best clutch player in the league

-Domas 2nd best passing big in basketball, basketball engine that forces mismatches through the DHO on offense. Forces bigs who aren't comfortable playing up to play out of the paint. Incredibly efficient scorer.

-5 elite ancillary spacing options between Huerter/Keegan/HB/Monk/Lyles that are all very capable of microwave shooting/scoring games. Work excellent off-ball and in the C&S. Especially dangerous in the DHO off Domas.

-Monk has developed into an elite playmaker and one of the best microwave scorers in basketball. Top 3 6th man in basketball.

So you're basically running like a 5-bet parlay to stop all the layers to the Kings offense. To the Warriors credit, they've totally erased the DHO and it's messing up all our ball movement and offensive flow. But there's also a level of where like 70%+ of our 3's are excellent wide-open shots that you want us taking and we should be taking that we're bricking. Something's got to give there with the shooting.
 
Oh please. If you thought we were going to sweep the Warriors you’re delusional. They protected their home court just like we protected ours. That doesn’t mean I didn’t expect to win. If we played our A game, we would’ve won. We didn’t. Tip your cap and prep for the next one. I’m not gonna sit here and act like the series is over like a lot of ya’ll because of 1 game.
Letter grades?
Game 3: The Kings brought their C- game to this one today. Kings offense D+, defense C+. The Warriors brought their B- offense game and A- defense and blew out the Kings,.
Game 2 was Kings B- offense, and A defense. Warriors, B- offense, and C Defense.
Game 1 was Kings B offense and B- defense, Warriors B- offense and C+ Defense

Game 4? Kings need their B game to start with to compete......
 

pdxKingsFan

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And I really hope that McNair isn't as reactionary as some of y'all are, when it comes to making improvements to the roster in the offseason.
This is the trap that helped us get where we are. I don't think he is. Worry more about Vivek telling him to push chips in before its time. But I think Brown will have a say too.
 
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