Kings Playoff Standings Watch!!!

I have a feeling PHX will be knocking some people out for sure. I expect them to be in the WCF. Vs. us or the Warriors.
There is actually still a very strong possibility that the Suns would have to face the Warriors in the 1st round, but a lot of things would have to fall into place in order for that to happen.

I don't think Minnesota or OKC are good enough and, therefore, the Lakers and Pelicans will grab either of the final two spots. I think the Lakers beat the Pelicans to send the Pels to a game against either Minnesota or OKC, so the Lakers jump up to 7, while the Pelicans grab that 8th seed.

If I had to make a prediction right now, I think this is how the final playoff seedings will end up looking...

1. Denver Vs 8. New Orleans
4. Phoenix Vs 5. LAC

2. Memphis Vs 7. LAL
3. Sacramento Vs 6. Golden State Warriors

My wish is for the Warriors and Clippers to swap, so we are matched up against the Clippers in the first round.

HOWEVER, I also believe that we are a better team THIS SEASON than the Warriors, and should still manage to take care of them if we see them in round 1.

I also don't think the Lakers are going to make much noise in round one, especially if they go up against the Grizzlies. As a matter of fact, I see the top 4 seeds all advancing to round 2, regardless of 1st round matchups.

Looking at 2nd round matchups...

1. Denver Vs 4. Phoenix
2. Memphis Vs 3. Sacramento

Boy, that 1 Vs 4 matchup is going to be a dandy!!! That series SHOULD go the distance, and I will be very perfectly honest with you, I don't even know if there is a clear-cut favorite to win that series. My guess is that home court advantage will be the deciding factor, and the Nuggets will advance.

2 Vs 3...Memphis is a tough out...I will be honest with you here - matchups against that team scare the crap out of me. They're just a solid basketball team. It would essentially take a PERFECT series for the Kings to advance, and even then, I don't even think we'd sweep. With that being said, I don't see an easy out here, so I will have to go with the Grizzlies, and wouldn't be surprised if we're ousted in 5 games, maybe 6.

1. Denver Vs. 2. Memphis...Home court advantage decides this one, and the Nuggets send the Grizzlies home packing.

Note: IF the Kings can take care of business in round 2, my prediction instantly changes. If the Kings can take care of a team like the Grizzlies, then there is absolutely NO REASON why we can't do the same against the Nuggets.
 
Half time 60-60 in a game to pick our 1st round opponents....New Orleans vs Knicks...if Knicks win we'll get Clippers (who will lose last game to get us)...if Pelicans win we get GSW as Clippers can't lose last game as they will be 7th and Pelicans 6th.
 

Capt. Factorial

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Kings Playoff Tracker

With the Grizz win today, the Kings game doesn't matter - at least for the Kings' position. We'll be the 3 seed, the Grizz are #2.

Dallas completely gave up, only lost by three, and got knocked out of the playoffs anyway, so we know the 10 teams that will have a chance at being the Western Conference Champs. Since the Timberwolves have the tiebreaker against OKC, the Thunder are locked in at #10, and will need to win two road games if they hope to earn the privilege of playing the Nuggets.

Meanwhile, the Pelicans beat the Knicks and the Lakers beat the Suns, so no movement there.

There are just two relevant games tomorrow before Sunday's season-closing everybody-plays day. The Clippers game against Portland doesn't appear to decide anything either way just yet. A Minnesota loss would cement the T'Wolves in the #9 slot, to host the Thunder in the play-in play-in game, but a win would keep them alive in multiple tie-breaker scenarios that I'm not going to work through until I'm good and drunk at about 1 AM on Sunday.

Today's games:
MEM def. Bucks
NOP def. Knicks
Bulls def. DAL
GSW def. SAC
LAL def. Suns

Playoff Seeding (Bold games are next day):
1) Denver Nuggets
2) Memphis Grizzlies
3) Sacramento Kings
4) Phoenix Suns


5) GSW (43-38), @POR
6) LAC (42-38), POR, @PHX --> Current Kings' opponent if standings hold
7) LAL (42-39), UTA
8) NOP (42-39), @MIN
9) MIN (40-40), @SAS, NOP

10) Oklahoma City Thunder

OK, I kind of lied about the 1 AM on Sunday part. I've now calculated ALL possible tiebreaker scenarios amongst the five remaining teams, and it's guaranteed to be at least 75% right. In the event of a tie between the following teams, the order will be...

Possible 4-way ties:
6)MIN 7)NOP 8)LAC 9)LAL
5)NOP 6)LAC 7)LAL 8)GSW


Possible 3-way ties:
5)LAC 6)GSW 7)LAL
LAC-MIN-LAL (This tie can't happen, would be 4-way with NOP)
6)LAL 7)NOP 8)GSW
7)MIN 8)LAL 9)NOP
7)MIN 8)NOP 9)LAC
5)NOP 6)GSW 7)LAC
6)NOP 7)LAC 8)LAL

Possible 2-way ties:
6/7)LAC 7/8)LAL
5)LAC 6)GSW
6/7)LAL 7/8)NOP
5)LAL 6)GSW
8)MIN 9)LAL
8)MIN 9)NOP
8)MIN 9)LAC
5/6)NOP 6/7)GSW
6/7)NOP 7/8)LAC

(Updated with actual finish positions in these tie scenarios)
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus

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If I were a Kings fan, the one team I would want to avoid in the first round is the Warriors. I would rather play any team in the western conference than the Warriors at full strength, even the Suns. At least with the Suns, you know that any team with Chris Paul has at least a twenty percent chance of just outright choking. The gd lakers might be a 5-on-8 series, but you never know when Anthony Davis is going to separate his shoulder getting out of bed. Clippers won't necessarily choke, but they do have Westbrook, which can be just as good. And I'll never fear any team with Big Sawfty on it.

The Warriors haven't had their main five together for much of the season, but when they have their main 5, it's been the best 5-man unit in the league this season, on both ends. And, they're the one team in the western conference that you know isn't going to beat themselves; you've got to take it from them.
 
If I were a Kings fan, the one team I would want to avoid in the first round is the Warriors. I would rather play any team in the western conference than the Warriors at full strength.
I fully agree.

IMO, until proven otherwise, the Warriors are the team to beat in the West. Their core owns four titles, and they won the last Finals with a healthy Wiggins. Over a very good Boston team.

I couldn’t care less about the Warriors road record this season. It means nothing. Those guys not only have dealt with injuries, but let’s be real. After a decade of domination, that core just isn’t as motivated for the regular season as for postseason play.

While PHX might seem intimidating on paper, KD has never proven capable of leading a team to a title (sans a team that already won w/o him) nor has he proven capable of lasting throughout the postseason dating back to his final season in Golden State. He’s been quite injury prone.

PHX may indeed be capable of winning it all, and might actually do it. But until that actually happens, I’d place better odds on the Warriors being able to do it. They are a much more proven entity.

As a KINGS fan, I really don’t care who the KINGS play. I mean, if they really have the goal of advancing quite far they are going to have to face a top team at some point anyway.

That said, if forced to choose a 1st round opponent I’d rather see the LA Clips or LA Lebron’s than the defending champs.
 
Only reason I wouldn't want to play the Warriors for the first round is because our first home playoff game/series will be infested with Warriors fans. It would really kill the vibe of us not making the playoffs for the last 17 years.
There will be Warriors fans for sure, but not to the extent you might expect. In fact, we might invade their arena. As a Kings fan, tickets are currently cheaper for games 3 and 4 in SF than games 1 and 2 in Sac. I’d encourage any Kings fan in the area that doesn’t want to fork over 500-1000 to go to G1 to buy tickets to Chase. Let’s flip the script!
 
Kings Playoff Tracker

With the Grizz win today, the Kings game doesn't matter - at least for the Kings' position. We'll be the 3 seed, the Grizz are #2.

Dallas completely gave up, only lost by three, and got knocked out of the playoffs anyway, so we know the 10 teams that will have a chance at being the Western Conference Champs. Since the Timberwolves have the tiebreaker against OKC, the Thunder are locked in at #10, and will need to win two road games if they hope to earn the privilege of playing the Nuggets.

Meanwhile, the Pelicans beat the Knicks and the Lakers beat the Suns, so no movement there.

There are just two relevant games tomorrow before Sunday's season-closing everybody-plays day. The Clippers game against Portland doesn't appear to decide anything either way just yet. A Minnesota loss would cement the T'Wolves in the #9 slot, to host the Thunder in the play-in play-in game, but a win would keep them alive in multiple tie-breaker scenarios that I'm not going to work through until I'm good and drunk at about 1 AM on Sunday.

Today's games:
MEM def. Bucks
NOP def. Knicks
Bulls def. DAL
GSW def. SAC
LAL def. Suns

Playoff Seeding (Bold games are next day):
1) Denver Nuggets
2) Memphis Grizzlies
3) Sacramento Kings
4) Phoenix Suns


5) GSW (43-38), @POR
6) LAC (42-38), POR, @PHX --> Current Kings' opponent if standings hold
7) LAL (42-39), UTA
8) NOP (42-39), @MIN
9) MIN (40-40), @SAS, NOP

10) Oklahoma City Thunder

OK, I kind of lied about the 1 AM on Sunday part. I've now calculated ALL possible tiebreaker scenarios amongst the five remaining teams, and it's guaranteed to be at least 75% right. In the event of a tie between the following teams, the order will be...

Possible 4-way ties:
MIN-NOP-LAC-LAL
NOP-LAC-LAL-GSW


Possible 3-way ties:
LAC-GSW-LAL
LAC-MIN-LAL
LAL-NOP-GSW
MIN-LAL-NOP
MIN-NOP-LAC
NOP-GSW-LAC
NOP-LAC-LAL

Possible 2-way ties:
LAC-LAL
LAC-GSW
LAL-NOP
LAL-GSW
MIN-LAL
MIN-NOP
MIN-LAC
NOP-GSW
NOP-LAC
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since they are in same Division, if the Clippers and Warriors win out and winds up with the same record, wouldn't the Clippers win their tie breaker? They split the season series and the Clips have the better Division record. Meaning the Clippers would be #5 and Warriors #6?

If the Clippers hold the LAC/GSW tie break, that would mean the Kings would play the GSW in the first round.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but since they are in same Division, if the Clippers and Warriors win out and winds up with the same record, wouldn't the Clippers win their tie breaker? They split the season series and the Clips have the better Division record. Meaning the Clippers would be #5 and Warriors #6?

If the Clippers hold the LAC/GSW tie break, that would mean the Kings would play the GSW in the first round.
That is correct.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since they are in same Division, if the Clippers and Warriors win out and winds up with the same record, wouldn't the Clippers win their tie breaker? They split the season series and the Clips have the better Division record. Meaning the Clippers would be #5 and Warriors #6?

If the Clippers hold the LAC/GSW tie break, that would mean the Kings would play the GSW in the first round.
I think you might be a bit confused, or are misunderstanding @Capt. Factorial's post, because he actually does represent what you are talking about...Take a look at the tiebreakers for TWO teams, and what you're asking about is represented there. However, when it comes to tiebreakers for THREE OR MORE teams, you have to take each team's record against the other teams involved in the tiebreaker before you look at head-to-head record within the same division. What you're referencing in your comment is the tiebreaker for TWO teams.
 

Capt. Factorial

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but since they are in same Division, if the Clippers and Warriors win out and winds up with the same record, wouldn't the Clippers win their tie breaker? They split the season series and the Clips have the better Division record. Meaning the Clippers would be #5 and Warriors #6?

If the Clippers hold the LAC/GSW tie break, that would mean the Kings would play the GSW in the first round.
That is correct. I'm not sure that we are in disagreement about anything. If you are addressing the part of my post where I indicate that the LAC would be our "current opponent", that is because the LAC/GSW are not currently tied, but the LAC are down by a half-game coming into today's action.
 
Clippers down 6 at halftime to the tanking Portland Trailblazers. Could the LAC be trying to lose on purpose to drop to #6, so they play the Kings instead of the Suns?!?!

I would prefer to play the Clippers instead of the GSW in the first round. So, Clips, be careful what you wish for!!!
 
Clippers down 6 at halftime to the tanking Portland Trailblazers. Could the LAC be trying to lose on purpose to drop to #6, so they play the Kings instead of the Suns?!?!

I would prefer to play the Clippers instead of the GSW in the first round. So, Clips, be careful what you wish for!!!
Wouldn't be surprised. Everyone would rather match up with the Kings instead of the Suns, until proven otherwise
 

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Clippers down 6 at halftime to the tanking Portland Trailblazers. Could the LAC be trying to lose on purpose to drop to #6, so they play the Kings instead of the Suns?!?!

I would prefer to play the Clippers instead of the GSW in the first round. So, Clips, be careful what you wish for!!!
Tank like your life depends on it, LA.
 

Capt. Factorial

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Kings Playoff Tracker

The Timberwolves won today, keeping their chances at something better than the #9 seed alive, but with the Clippers' win, Minnesota is now guaranteed one of the play-in spots, and cannot get up to #6 (a slot that would have been still available with a LAC loss). That means that the Kings' opponent in the first round will be one of: LAC, GSW, LAL, NOP.

Today's games:
MIN def. Spurs
LAC def. Blazers

Playoff Seeding (Bold games are next day):
1) Denver Nuggets
2) Memphis Grizzlies
3) Sacramento Kings
4) Phoenix Suns


5) LAC (43-38), @PHX
6) GSW (43-38), @POR --> Current Kings' opponent if standings hold
7) LAL (42-39), UTA
8) NOP (42-39), @MIN
9) MIN (41-40), NOP

10) Oklahoma City Thunder

OK, so instead of thinking in terms of who is tied with who, at this point we simply have to look at he final four games on the schedule (the Pelicans play at Minnesota, so there are only four game for the five relevant teams). Below are the 16 possible setts of outcomes for those games. I know that the odds in each game aren't strictly 50/50, but if they were, we'd have a 43.75% chance of facing the Warriors, an 18.75% chance of facing the Clippers, an 18.75% chance of facing the Pelicans, and an 18.75% chance of facing the Lakers.

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(Image stolen from @sauce-26 a few posts below)
 
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I am confused. If Clippers, Lakers and Pelicans all tied at 43 wins...who has the advantage? I know Pelicans has tied breaker advantage over Clippers and so they should move up, but then Lakers has tied breaker over Pelicans and so they move Pelicans down. But if Lakers move up, Clippers has tied breaker over them and move them down....wtf is going on....lol.

I think this probably required one to look at the division and conference records on all 3 teams to rank them. Breaking tied is not good enough.

What's interesting is that all of them play the game tomorrow at the same time. I smell conspiracy lol.
 
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You’ve got to wonder who will have the stronger Tank game tomorrow, the Clips or Phoenix.

If the Clips win, they play Phoenix in the 1st Round. If LAC lose, they likely get the Kings.

If the Suns Win, the Clips drop out of 5th and the Warriors move up to #5 with a win. So it would be PHX-GSW with a PHX win.

So, who will have the stronger tank game tomorrow, the Clips or Phoenix?