Roster construction/rotation discussion (Split from Grizzlies [Game] thread)
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based on how they played last night I wouldn't start TD over Barnes.
I do not think everyone on this team is as bad as they are currently playing but it is time to figure out the best 8 guys and give them the bulk of the minutes. Monk has earned time from the second unit. His interplay with Fox last night was special. For 90 seconds. But still. TD showed up the first few games but wasn't great the last two. Rest of those guys really need to figure it out and FAST.
I do not think everyone on this team is as bad as they are currently playing but it is time to figure out the best 8 guys and give them the bulk of the minutes. Monk has earned time from the second unit. His interplay with Fox last night was special. For 90 seconds. But still. TD showed up the first few games but wasn't great the last two. Rest of those guys really need to figure it out and FAST.
you do have to assume that at some point the shots falling will regress to the mean. the team IS playing better even if the results aren't there. You also have to figure that once the wins begin (or ok, IF) maybe we'll stop getting these horrid calls against us too. It's like every single random piece of bad luck is happening to this team, beyond just play on the court.
horrible timing though, with a new coach and system, it's easy for it to get tuned out if you don't at least enjoy some small success. I do think last night may have been a tipping point unfortunately. But maybe Brown just assumed let's get everyone time before he starts cutting minutes for all but the people that can swim above water. Looking like a lot less than I thought there'd be after camp.
horrible timing though, with a new coach and system, it's easy for it to get tuned out if you don't at least enjoy some small success. I do think last night may have been a tipping point unfortunately. But maybe Brown just assumed let's get everyone time before he starts cutting minutes for all but the people that can swim above water. Looking like a lot less than I thought there'd be after camp.
The only game I’m really happy with is the Clippers game. We played well enough to win (really well actually) and just got torched by Paul George in a way that was hard to overcome. And Kawhi was out all last year and they were still a very good team
Portland was winnable but we pooched it
Warriors game we got annihilated in the first half and even closing the score wasn’t really a true comeback when our team was clearly demoralized and had no answer when the Warriors gently pushed back against our run
then last night
Fox has been a revelation and Murray is still good but thats about it
I’m still hopeful for the season and trust Mike Brown to improve the team and was high on him as a candidate from when his name first emerged. Also hopeful Sabonis plays a lot better (probably biggest X factor right now)
Portland was winnable but we pooched it
Warriors game we got annihilated in the first half and even closing the score wasn’t really a true comeback when our team was clearly demoralized and had no answer when the Warriors gently pushed back against our run
then last night
Fox has been a revelation and Murray is still good but thats about it
I’m still hopeful for the season and trust Mike Brown to improve the team and was high on him as a candidate from when his name first emerged. Also hopeful Sabonis plays a lot better (probably biggest X factor right now)
I'm in favor of moving Red Rocket to the bench and having him close games. I think he's being marginalized a little bit in the starting unit and think he is a good enough ball handler and distributor that he shouldn't be playing a full game off the ball anyway. Move TD to the starting unit and see how it goes.
I'm pretty sure that he's talking about going all in on a rebuild. That means Fox/Sabonis go, and hopefully for something they spearhead a rebuild with that can run an offense the way Fox and Sabonis can. Truth is, rebuilding is going to be tough and we'll find out why it's not really ideal to rebuild with your best young assets knocking on the door of their prime age wise. Too bad to be good, a little too good to be truly bad.
Barnes isn't that guy. He was traded for nothing because Dallas found that out. Barnes is a great 3rd option level player that will fit into his teams offense and get you some points when needed. If anyone is destined to be Mr. Bench Offense it's either Monk or Davion. Also, the Kings need the size. These super small guard lineups might be why bigger teams are still hitting these contested shots. We've seen it for a few years now.
I feel Brown is trying to showcase Holmes for a potential trade, but I think Queta or Len would be a better alternative to help the Kings win.
Also, Brown seems to be force feeding Metu minutes, his Nigerian Olympic player, when Lyles would probably be a better alternative.
Also, I wonder if the Kings can bring back Kent Bazemore for the backup swing spot. He probably going to give the Kings a better bench production than what they are getting now.
Also, Brown seems to be force feeding Metu minutes, his Nigerian Olympic player, when Lyles would probably be a better alternative.
Also, I wonder if the Kings can bring back Kent Bazemore for the backup swing spot. He probably going to give the Kings a better bench production than what they are getting now.
I disagree, Barnes fits what they are trying to do better than anyone but being a 1st option in any capacity is simply not his game. Now whether they should have gone towards building a team like this so late in the game is up for debate. The team Monte built fits to the current game in a lot of important ways. At least the starting 5 does. We just aren't seeing the results and this team isn't built perfect by any means from top to bottom. There is still a lack of true wings with a ton of C's and G's taking up space.
He was a physical, strong, hustle guy. He initially did well with us because he set good screens and then had his push shot. And he was busy and rotated on defence. Not sure if there was anything more than that?
Now he doesn't even rotate much. I don't think entirely his fault and the team needs time to relearn and retrust each other on that end.
Now he doesn't even rotate much. I don't think entirely his fault and the team needs time to relearn and retrust each other on that end.
Agree some and disagree some. HB does have the skillset on offence to be of value. But on defence he isn't an impact maker. And I think we could downgrade some of his offensive skills if it meant an upgrade in defensive impact. Not talking a Mo Harmless sized downgrade. But a catch and shoot guy on offense and long disruptor on defence would fit well.