NFL 2021-2022 Season Thread

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I would almost put money on teams looking at cheaper backups before Jim. Like Minshew. Or Foles.

Jim has anti-value.

Just cut him and hope he ends up in Seattle so we get two freebies this season.
Bettors can cite like 1,000 times where Jimmy cost them money, cost the Niners a game, or made the game significantly closer than it should've been. Becoming pretty obvious that opposing teams rate him closer to where bettors rate him.
 

SLAB

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I cannot believe the niners are gonna bring jimmy back for another season. Lynch needs to be fired for how bad he has screwed up this jimmy G thing.
No one wants Jim. That’s not Lynch’s fault. It’s how he handles it from here. Bringing him back in any capacity going into workouts is where the heat should get turned up. It’s a massive cloud of distraction over Lance he doesn’t need.

He needs to be cut ASAP.
 
Fired? I don't care what happens with Jimmy, Lynch has done a solid job.
Yeah, Conference champ game and a super bowl appearance in the 2 healthy Jimmy G years. Despite a pretty poor overall draft record with their top picks, they've managed totally salvage their drafts with steals like Kittle, trading for Trent Williams, Warner, Eli Mitchell, Al-Shaair, DJ Jones, etc.

49ers should thank their lucky stars with the power structure we do have. It can absolutely get significantly worse.
 
Yeah, Conference champ game and a super bowl appearance in the 2 healthy Jimmy G years. Despite a pretty poor overall draft record with their top picks, they've managed totally salvage their drafts with steals like Kittle, trading for Trent Williams, Warner, Eli Mitchell, Al-Shaair, DJ Jones, etc.

49ers should thank their lucky stars with the power structure we do have. It can absolutely get significantly worse.
Yep that's why when people want Shanahan fired for whatever reason, I'm like nope I'll pass on going back to the potential Tomsula/Kelly years. Coaches do make a difference. Look at what Harbaugh did with practically the same roster as Singletary.
 

Tetsujin

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Man, if only we dumped Jim and KO’d the Deebo extension before these ones reset the market.
Garoppolo’s contract has little bearing on any extension for Deebo or Bosa since those wouldn’t kick in until next season unless the Niners really went overboard with their signing bonuses.
 
30 million dollars a year for a non-QB/pass-rusher is insane.
At this going rate, the Niners seriously might need to consider moving Deebo from a sheer cap crunch perspective.
This is where we have to take advantage of Trey Lance being cheap for the next 4 years. You just can't replace the Deebo impact and we can afford to "overspend" because we aren't shelling out the QB money yet.
 
30 million dollars a year for a non-QB/pass-rusher is insane.
At this going rate, the Niners seriously might need to consider moving Deebo from a sheer cap crunch perspective.
Eh, the NFL is a QB and play makers league. Nobody has been a better, more dynamic play making threat than Tyreek Hill. Just having him on the field changes things, even when he doesn’t get the ball. Think Deion Sanders but on offense.

Whatever side of the field Tyreek lines up, the safety has to shade heavily due to his speed. And MIA has Jaylen Waddle — who just set the rookie record for receptions in 16 games — on the field too.

Can’t ever have too many play makers on the field and Miami now has Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, Cedrick Wilson, Devante Parker, Mike Gesicki, Chase Edmonds and Raheem Mostert.

As a long suffering Dolphins fan, I’m happy to see them make big splashes the past couple days. They has the WORST offensive line in the NFL but have addressed it with Terron Armstead and Connor Williams. That alone should make Tua Tagovailoa better as IIRC he had the least pocket time of any QB last season.

Adding Tyreek Hill is a huge cherry on top.

When I first heard about the deal, I suffered from sticker shock. 5 picks?!

But the more I looked at it and thought about it, it’s like Miami used their 29th and 50th picks in this upcoming draft to move up into the top 10 to draft Hill. If Hill were in this draft — knowing what we all know about his production — he’d surely go top 10, maybe even #1 overall since there’s no consensus QB to take.

The 4th and 6th round picks are fairly inconsequential. Statistically most those picks don’t even make NFL rosters (yes, I know Tom Brady was famously a 6th rounder).

So in terms of draft capital versus Tyreek Hill’s proven elite play making ability, I’m more than fine with the compensation they surrendered.

As for the contract? Hill just turned 28 three weeks ago. He’s still quite young and in his prime. And being that he’s been the most explosive play maker in the league for a number of years, I get why Miami wanted to do it.

Remember this play?


When you can get a player than can do the above better than any other player currently in the league, adding the 2nd and 4th/6th rounders are a worthwhile cost.

For all the talk of Mahomes throwing deep to Hill, he threw a lot of shorter passes that Hill turned into huge YAC plays (like the play linked above). And Tua Tagovailoa is among the more accurate short to mid range passers there is. It’s his strength.

Joe Montana forged a HOF career w/o a cannon arm largely by throwing short, quick accurate passes to Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, and Brent Jones. I hear those teams did ok.

But when Tua has to throw 50+ yard lasers, he’s shown he can on the biggest of stages:


If MIA’s line gives him more time than he had last season, I’m one confident Fins fan!
 
Eh, the NFL is a QB and play makers league. Nobody has been a better, more dynamic play making threat than Tyreek Hill. Just having him on the field changes things, even when he doesn’t get the ball. Think Deion Sanders but on offense.

Whatever side of the field Tyreek lines up, the safety has to shade heavily due to his speed. And MIA has Jaylen Waddle — who just set the rookie record for receptions in 16 games — on the field too.

Can’t ever have too many play makers on the field and Miami now has Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, Cedrick Wilson, Devante Parker, Mike Gesicki, Chase Edmonds and Raheem Mostert.

As a long suffering Dolphins fan, I’m happy to see them make big splashes the past couple days. They has the WORST offensive line in the NFL but have addressed it with Terron Armstead and Connor Williams. That alone should make Tua Tagovailoa better as IIRC he had the least pocket time of any QB last season.

Adding Tyreek Hill is a huge cherry on top.

When I first heard about the deal, I suffered from sticker shock. 5 picks?!

But the more I looked at it and thought about it, it’s like Miami used their 29th and 50th picks in this upcoming draft to move up into the top 10 to draft Hill. If Hill were in this draft — knowing what we all know about his production — he’d surely go top 10, maybe even #1 overall since there’s no consensus QB to take.

The 4th and 6th round picks are fairly inconsequential. Statistically most those picks don’t even make NFL rosters (yes, I know Tom Brady was famously a 6th rounder).

So in terms of draft capital versus Tyreek Hill’s proven elite play making ability, I’m more than fine with the compensation they surrendered.

As for the contract? Hill just turned 28 three weeks ago. He’s still quite young and in his prime. And being that he’s been the most explosive play maker in the league for a number of years, I get why Miami wanted to do it.

Remember this play?


When you can get a player than can do the above better than any other player currently in the league, adding the 2nd and 4th/6th rounders are a worthwhile cost.

For all the talk of Mahomes throwing deep to Hill, he threw a lot of shorter passes that Hill turned into huge YAC plays (like the play linked above). And Tua Tagovailoa is among the more accurate short to mid range passers there is. It’s his strength.

Joe Montana forged a HOF career w/o a cannon arm largely by throwing short, quick accurate passes to Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, and Brent Jones. I hear those teams did ok.

But when Tua has to throw 50+ yard lasers, he’s shown he can on the biggest of stages:


If MIA’s line gives him more time than he had last season, I’m one confident Fins fan!
Yeah, I'm a big Tua guy as well. But while he had real built in excuses the last 2 years (the atrocious O-Line being #1), it's time for him to start showing out. Elite weapons now (Hill, Parker, Waddle, Gesicki) (Strong RB room now with Edmonds/Mostert/Gaskin), a top 3 LT, a top 3 WR in football and a Shanny offensive disciple as your head coach. Context could not be any better for him to succeed. I'll be watching a lot of Dolphins games next year.
 
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