Color is subjective, right? Yes, it is. You like blue, I like green, some other guy likes purple or yellow, etc. There may be some men out that wear pink pants, shirts, and underwear, live in a pink house, and drive a pink car. (If you think that's extreme, I lived right down the block from a guy who wore yellow, lived in a yellow house, had a yellow car, and yes, he had a yellow (blonde) wife. But they, I think we can agree, are a distinct minority. Objectively, therefore, men typically don't wear pink, live in pink, and drive in pink. Pink sucks for most men, objectively speaking. Kayte sucks, objectively speaking also.
Kayte Christensen
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How you feel is exacly how my wife feels. She complains every time I watch a game.
Admittedly my wife was already anti-Kayte from her days as sideline and locker room reporter because she could never just ask a simple question and instead always prefaced with a super long-winded lead up. My wife’s main criticism is that she feels Kayte tries to hard to show off her knowledge instead of keeping it simple.
From that standpoint, I always agreed with my wife. But I wasn’t as upset over it. Mostly indifferent.
As far as her analysis goes, I’ve said this many times already but I’m not casting final judgement until the end of season 2. I think she’s ok at some things and not so good at others. She’s new at the gig and could get better. But as of today, I agree that she’s too long-winded often not adding anything of value when she does that and often misses out on the next play which always annoys no matter who does it.
DC wasn’t especially good when he first started, but really worked at it and got a lot better. Kayte could do the same. I do feel she has a longer uphill climb, though. I’m willing to exercise a little patience to find out if she is able to do it.
Having said that, I also understand those that have already cast their final judgement like my wife. There are a myriad of factors that cause people to like or dislike an announcer/analyst that go beyond their knowledge and experience in the game.
IMO one great example is Bill Walton. His playing experience, background, connections and accomplishments prove that he has the knowledge for the gig but a lot of people would argue that he‘s not very good at it. His presentation and ways of communicating are, to put it mildly, an acquired taste.
Admittedly my wife was already anti-Kayte from her days as sideline and locker room reporter because she could never just ask a simple question and instead always prefaced with a super long-winded lead up. My wife’s main criticism is that she feels Kayte tries to hard to show off her knowledge instead of keeping it simple.
From that standpoint, I always agreed with my wife. But I wasn’t as upset over it. Mostly indifferent.
As far as her analysis goes, I’ve said this many times already but I’m not casting final judgement until the end of season 2. I think she’s ok at some things and not so good at others. She’s new at the gig and could get better. But as of today, I agree that she’s too long-winded often not adding anything of value when she does that and often misses out on the next play which always annoys no matter who does it.
DC wasn’t especially good when he first started, but really worked at it and got a lot better. Kayte could do the same. I do feel she has a longer uphill climb, though. I’m willing to exercise a little patience to find out if she is able to do it.
Having said that, I also understand those that have already cast their final judgement like my wife. There are a myriad of factors that cause people to like or dislike an announcer/analyst that go beyond their knowledge and experience in the game.
IMO one great example is Bill Walton. His playing experience, background, connections and accomplishments prove that he has the knowledge for the gig but a lot of people would argue that he‘s not very good at it. His presentation and ways of communicating are, to put it mildly, an acquired taste.
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KINGS win again, though.
I’m not expecting the winning to continue to the point of re-capturing interest and excitement of the majority of KINGS fans that have already thrown in the towel, but it’ll be interesting to see what happens if it does.
What will the fan reaction and feedback be to the current on-air voices when there are games that matter?
Mark, Kyle and Kayte don’t seem to evoke the same reaction out of fans that the previous voices did. Part of the lack of interest and excitement is fan fatigue from the team being disappointing and/or awful for so long now.
So it’ll be a nice litmus test if the team keeps winning and starts playing meaningful games.
Mark Jones is absent far too much and Kyle doesn’t seem to resonate well with the masses far as I can tell and Kayte’s addition is still controversial if this thread is any indication.
Hopefully this team keeps winning so we can all find out.
I’m not expecting the winning to continue to the point of re-capturing interest and excitement of the majority of KINGS fans that have already thrown in the towel, but it’ll be interesting to see what happens if it does.
What will the fan reaction and feedback be to the current on-air voices when there are games that matter?
Mark, Kyle and Kayte don’t seem to evoke the same reaction out of fans that the previous voices did. Part of the lack of interest and excitement is fan fatigue from the team being disappointing and/or awful for so long now.
So it’ll be a nice litmus test if the team keeps winning and starts playing meaningful games.
Mark Jones is absent far too much and Kyle doesn’t seem to resonate well with the masses far as I can tell and Kayte’s addition is still controversial if this thread is any indication.
Hopefully this team keeps winning so we can all find out.
I’ve been a fan of Kayte and defended her on this board, but that was some of the worst announcing I’ve heard at the end of the hornets game. She totally had no clue what was going on, rambling on at the end about the coach’s challenge as Fox raced down court for the win. Then concludes Fox missed the second free throw on purpose because of….the clock?!?. You’d think given the amount of timeouts and reviews at the end of a close game she would have understood the score for the critical winning free throws. She was totally off her game tonight.
I can’t believe I’m more annoyed at her announcing than the kings performance tonight, but that was bad.
I can’t believe I’m more annoyed at her announcing than the kings performance tonight, but that was bad.
I'm more than willing to to give KCH more time to improve her abilities. I wasn't a big fan of Christie when first came on, but I thought he vastly improved the second season and I thoroughly enjoyed hearing him at that point. Speaking purely on Grant and Jerry's skill as broadcasters, I thought they had excellent rapport with each other and called the games great. They also had decades of experience, but skill-wise it is a huge drop off.
Draper is just not the answer. He doesn't resonate well with the fans and his play-calling is lackluster, at best. He needs to go.
Draper is just not the answer. He doesn't resonate well with the fans and his play-calling is lackluster, at best. He needs to go.
she actually did something last night i have never heard an announcer for a team do. when talking about the issues with defense. she actually suggested a trade be made and Jones cosigned it. I think thats the difference that has gotten me. Grant and Jerry made you enjoy a crappy team and were always optomistic. Kayte and Mark constantly point out flaws and have really made me not like anybody on the team. Like there isn't one guy that i couldn't do without. I blame the announce team for that lol.
I suppose it's simply a matter of taste, whether the listener wants a spoonful of sugar as a way of making the medicine of each loss go down easier or a less rose-colored approach that might spotlight the reason for the losses. I think Kayte has a ways to go before she fully settles into the role, but that's always the case with first-time color commentators. Personally, I have great appreciation for her analytical approach to the game. It's rare that a broadcast can make me feel as if I am actually learning something about the action on the court in real-time, rather than in post-game analyses, but Kayte's color commentary manages to do that. I think she will become a real asset on the broadcast team as she gains experience.
I also think it will be essential for the franchise to find a proper partner alongside Kayte. I don't think Kyle Draper is likely to be an effective long-term pairing with her, and while I've got a lot of love for Mark Jones and his absolute professionalism, I do think the Kings need a full-time hire on the play-by-play so that their broadcast team can develop chemistry. I was among a certain cohort of Kings fans who had grown incredibly weary of Grant Napear and Jerry Reynolds, but their on-air chemistry was undeniable after decades of calling games together. Reynolds' aw, shucks, dim-bulbed persona appropriately balanced Napear's acerbic, fast-talking New York demeanor. No matter where you fell on the spectrum of Napear/Reynolds enjoyment, they were obviously an effective team.
I also think it will be essential for the franchise to find a proper partner alongside Kayte. I don't think Kyle Draper is likely to be an effective long-term pairing with her, and while I've got a lot of love for Mark Jones and his absolute professionalism, I do think the Kings need a full-time hire on the play-by-play so that their broadcast team can develop chemistry. I was among a certain cohort of Kings fans who had grown incredibly weary of Grant Napear and Jerry Reynolds, but their on-air chemistry was undeniable after decades of calling games together. Reynolds' aw, shucks, dim-bulbed persona appropriately balanced Napear's acerbic, fast-talking New York demeanor. No matter where you fell on the spectrum of Napear/Reynolds enjoyment, they were obviously an effective team.
We disagree a lot. But this is something I fully agree with you on.
Her personal life is separate from her work. I get that morals are important, but if fans can't separate profession from personal they're never gonna be able to follow or enjoy anything.
Think about it. On a 53 man football roster, not even including members of the front office and coaching staff, there's bound to be people that have done things that cross a fans personal threshold.
When going to watch a movie, hundreds and hundreds of people (maybe more) are involved in the making of that movie and, again, someone involved has done something in their past (or even recently) that has crossed a moral line.
Unless the person has done something really over-the-top horrible, such as an OJ Simpson, Jeffrey Epstein, Bernie Madoff, or Bill Cosby -- I tend to not let these things affect how I view them professionally nor prevent me from enjoying something to which they may have an affiliation.
In this rumored case, even if true, it's her own issue to deal with and doesn't have anything to do with her ability to do her job. It also doesn't influence how I view her performance. If people are being fair, it shouldn't influence them either -- unless they happen to be close personal friends with any involved.
Her personal life is separate from her work. I get that morals are important, but if fans can't separate profession from personal they're never gonna be able to follow or enjoy anything.
Think about it. On a 53 man football roster, not even including members of the front office and coaching staff, there's bound to be people that have done things that cross a fans personal threshold.
When going to watch a movie, hundreds and hundreds of people (maybe more) are involved in the making of that movie and, again, someone involved has done something in their past (or even recently) that has crossed a moral line.
Unless the person has done something really over-the-top horrible, such as an OJ Simpson, Jeffrey Epstein, Bernie Madoff, or Bill Cosby -- I tend to not let these things affect how I view them professionally nor prevent me from enjoying something to which they may have an affiliation.
In this rumored case, even if true, it's her own issue to deal with and doesn't have anything to do with her ability to do her job. It also doesn't influence how I view her performance. If people are being fair, it shouldn't influence them either -- unless they happen to be close personal friends with any involved.
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It's a tower of babble too often, Kings in-game broadcast booth. The worst part is often that babble going on (and yes, Kayte worst offender) middle of a dynamic play when should have been describing "it" not miscellaneous carrying-on discussion or just keep mouth shut, let in the moment action speak for itself. But otherwise Kayte very good with her analysis, just needs to shorten it up. TV mute button my savior if gets too chatty and then turn on radio for G-Man call - heaven!
I'm getting to the point where I'm gonna have to mute the game because of Kayte. They show a replay (in slow motion) on a rebound play where idiot Buddy literally faces up Reeves and pushes him. Yes, Reeves embellished a bit but it's an obvious foul. She says that's a flop and deserves a "fine."
A couple of minutes later, they show a replay (again, in slow motion) of the low IQ'er Bagley getting completely stripped clean (for like the 4th time this game) and acting like somebody cut off his hand and she claims that is a foul.
I get being a homer but you really just lose all credibility when you can't even watch a replay and intelligently assess the play. This has been consistent with her the entire year.
A couple of minutes later, they show a replay (again, in slow motion) of the low IQ'er Bagley getting completely stripped clean (for like the 4th time this game) and acting like somebody cut off his hand and she claims that is a foul.
I get being a homer but you really just lose all credibility when you can't even watch a replay and intelligently assess the play. This has been consistent with her the entire year.
