Woj: Kings let Bogi go
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...that-could-send-giannis-antetokounmpo-packing
So apparently everything was the Bucks’ fault all the way down to their owner bragging about the trade at the BoG meeting.
So apparently everything was the Bucks’ fault all the way down to their owner bragging about the trade at the BoG meeting.
I can see how this works out for Bogdan - he got paid, the Hawks are now a team that could possibly reach 8th seed in the East, he'll probably be a starting SG or SF.
I don't see how this works for us as a team. We thought we have the best team in years last season and that wasn't good enough to reach the playoffs. The current team is about 30% weaker than the one from the last season. Let's hope Monte knows what he's doing.
It seems like the recipe for success in the NBA is to acquire a couple of superstars and then add a bunch of veteran role players and young talents with growing potential. We keep overpaying guys who are not superstars and we keep drafting players who can't reach that level. And even then, we let some of them walk out for free. If this sounds like I'm frustrated, that's because I am
The last time I watched Kings in the playoffs was when I started attending high school. Now I'm 30+ years old...
I don't see how this works for us as a team. We thought we have the best team in years last season and that wasn't good enough to reach the playoffs. The current team is about 30% weaker than the one from the last season. Let's hope Monte knows what he's doing.
It seems like the recipe for success in the NBA is to acquire a couple of superstars and then add a bunch of veteran role players and young talents with growing potential. We keep overpaying guys who are not superstars and we keep drafting players who can't reach that level. And even then, we let some of them walk out for free. If this sounds like I'm frustrated, that's because I am
The last time I watched Kings in the playoffs was when I started attending high school. Now I'm 30+ years old...
Someone wrote earlier in this thread and I agree... the thought of what Bogi should be is much better than has actually played out in the NBA. Still a very good nba player, but seems like he is a solid role player/glue guy. That is very valuable, but to this team I don’t think worth breaking the bank over.
Whelp. Just got done listening to James Ham tell McNair, Cantenella and Wilcox how they should have done their job.
PDA and Vlade managed the team exactly how fans would manage them. We know this because we watched their crowd sourcing in real time. You can see where that got us. Bring in some experienced FO people and fans and certain media think the new FO can't possibly know how it all works.
I'll take a small break now and let the Kings world deal with their feelings, because wow.
PDA and Vlade managed the team exactly how fans would manage them. We know this because we watched their crowd sourcing in real time. You can see where that got us. Bring in some experienced FO people and fans and certain media think the new FO can't possibly know how it all works.
I'll take a small break now and let the Kings world deal with their feelings, because wow.
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Wow, so Giannis wanted Bogdan, the Bucks made a trade happen, somebody in the Bucks organization got a little too excited about it and blabbed, other GMs (read: Atlanta) got pissed and went to the league office, the league office threatened to veto the trade, Bogdan signed with Atlanta. This is totally insane that the NBA's own policy basically helped Atlanta blow up a fair deal that the player and both teams already agreed to. I would say that Milwaukee should sue the NBA for millions in lost revenue if Giannis leaves but obviously they can't do that so we just pretend none of this ever happened I guess.
I honestly think we have a huge grievance here, basically MIL talked a guy who seemed to like Sac out of staying and when it blew up ATL swooped in. The fact that ATL was the only team that could offer him that deal, and they wasted no time pushing him to sign the offer sheet instead of working out a trade deal (Boston/Charlotte, for the record... I still am on record as saying TPEs are entirely worthless but I guess they would make one poster here feel better), also means that they were the likely culprit, they may have tampered as well, and they got our player for nothing in return.
Honestly if the league is investigating and either or both of those can be proven, the recompense here is to give us something from both teams. Yeah, they'll probably just get fined, but it actually cost us "something" (what, I am absolutely unsure, but hey...)
Honestly if the league is investigating and either or both of those can be proven, the recompense here is to give us something from both teams. Yeah, they'll probably just get fined, but it actually cost us "something" (what, I am absolutely unsure, but hey...)
Vlade assembled veteran role players around talented rookies and young players. The goal being to make the playoffs. Except the most talented players on the team had no experience and couldn't lead the playoff push. I would argue that Vlade's apparent goal of getting the 8th seed could have been accomplished by either trading Fox, or the 1st round draft picks after Fox to get higher quality veterans. That would have secured an 8th seed. Vlade was in-between a rebuild and a playoff push with his roster.
Better yet, Vlade should have traded Cousins when Karl told him to.
Better yet, Vlade should have traded Cousins when Karl told him to.
Vlade's return on the picks after Fox was less than stellar, though I guess it did aid in acquiring Barnes.
Had whatever little tiff not flared up between Joerger, Vlade, and Williams - and I honestly DON'T understand who is responsible for what, other than Joerger like all of us wanted Doncic and Vlade ultimately fell on the sword for it, so we assume Williams was the one who really pushed hard for Bagley and then fumed when Bagley didn't get 30+ mpg. But that is what truly sank us. Vlade was too inexperienced to soothe that and it lead to everything blowing up.
He also sucked at drafting, like so hard, that even if he somehow righted that ship, we're now a million times better off.
Had whatever little tiff not flared up between Joerger, Vlade, and Williams - and I honestly DON'T understand who is responsible for what, other than Joerger like all of us wanted Doncic and Vlade ultimately fell on the sword for it, so we assume Williams was the one who really pushed hard for Bagley and then fumed when Bagley didn't get 30+ mpg. But that is what truly sank us. Vlade was too inexperienced to soothe that and it lead to everything blowing up.
He also sucked at drafting, like so hard, that even if he somehow righted that ship, we're now a million times better off.
How James Ham got to the position he is in is such a complete mystery to me. His basketball takes are so incredibly rudimentary, and he seems to live off of his ability to rub elbows with Jerry Reynolds and Doug Christie. I tried listening to his podcast for a few weeks when it first came out and was just a huge dud to me.
This is the crux of the Buddy Hield paradox... his three-point shooting is at such an elite level that he's going to be worthy of playing significant minutes for quite awhile. If he remains a liability on defense though, you can only afford to start him and play him big minutes if you have enough plus defenders to compensate or you run a scheme where you have such an advantage on offense that his poor defense doesn't matter. These are the moving targets we're aiming for as we continue to build the roster. Either we run/shoot everyone else out of the gym in which case Buddy is a focal point of the team or we fill our lineup with good to great defenders and limit his level of responsibility on that end.
Ultimately that's why I think his best role is probably going to be as a 20ppg sixth-man scoring weapon behind a more well-rounded guard. That's already who he is right now. There is a less likely alternative scenario here where Buddy improves enough on defense to warrant keepng him in the starting lineup. A motivated Buddy Hield backed up by a defensive guru on the sideline could improve enough to become a solid starter on a good team if he commits a high level of effort and focus into his defense every game. Otherwise, the hope would be that Tyrese Haliburton shows enough shooting touch (40%+ from three like he shot in college) to take over that starting spot and push Buddy into the role he's best suited for.
Ultimately that's why I think his best role is probably going to be as a 20ppg sixth-man scoring weapon behind a more well-rounded guard. That's already who he is right now. There is a less likely alternative scenario here where Buddy improves enough on defense to warrant keepng him in the starting lineup. A motivated Buddy Hield backed up by a defensive guru on the sideline could improve enough to become a solid starter on a good team if he commits a high level of effort and focus into his defense every game. Otherwise, the hope would be that Tyrese Haliburton shows enough shooting touch (40%+ from three like he shot in college) to take over that starting spot and push Buddy into the role he's best suited for.