UPDATE: Bulls match offer sheet for Zach LaVine (NEW Poll)

[PHXSUNSFAN]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1015387129935900672

 

[KingsFanSince85]

I just read about this and quickly turned on KHTK to see how Peaches was spinning it ---- but instead I hear Carmichael Dave roasting Vlade for the move and nearly echoing my thoughts exactly.

I. Simply. Can't. Understand. What. Vlade. Is. Doing.

This team didn't need another SG. But it looks like they may have one. And if it comes at the expense of Bogdanović or Hield, I'm gonna snap!

Just as soon as I believe things can't get any worse -- it does. Vivek needs to dump Vlade and Peja before they do more damage. This has gone beyond ridiculous.

 

[VF21]

MOD NOTE: Merged offer thread with ongoing LaVine thread from Personnel Moves. Added a new poll.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1015387129935900672

I liked this post w/o really 'liking' it.

I HATE the move, but agree with the tweet. Just another example how rudderless this franchise really is.

 

[206Fan]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1015387129935900672

how many times does someone have to reiterate that this was a 24 game sample size where he just came back from rehabbing his surgery?

 

[Double-K]

I just read about this and quickly turned on KHTK to see how Peaches was spinning it ---- but instead I hear Carmichael Dave roasting Vlade for the move and nearly echoing my thoughts exactly.

I. Simply. Can't. Understand. What. Vlade. Is. Doing.

This team didn't need another SG. But it looks like they may have one. And if it comes at the expense of Bogdanović or Hield, I'm gonna snap!

Just as soon as I believe things can't get any worse -- it does. Vivek needs to dump Vlade and Peja before they do more damage. This has gone beyond ridiculous.

It's not that bad. The contract, relatively speaking (I mean Capt. Factorial can correct me on this), isn't that horrible in today's NBA's CBA. And he's still only 23 years old... It's obvious that Vlade and the front office wants to run and run and run and run...

 

[dude12]

how many times does someone have to reiterate that this was a 24 game sample size where he just came back from rehabbing his surgery?

Why let facts get in the way!

 

[Hoovtrain]

Lol. I know people are losing it ....I personally don’t care and am fine with it.

 

[chief bromden]

Everyone not okay with this offer sheet ---- who are the Kings to sign?

We can't even coax Hezonja to come here.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

It's not that bad. The contract, relatively speaking (I mean Capt. Factorial can correct me on this), isn't that horrible in today's NBA's CBA. And he's still only 23 years old...

It is bad. Doesn't matter that he's only 23 and that 19M isn't near max. The move doesn't make the Kings better and is very redundant.

It's obvious that Vlade and the front office wants to run and run and run and run...

And collect the worst defensive players in the league.

 

[Blob]

Zach Attack Coming To Sac

 

[upinsmoke]

If we indeed acquire him I would like him to sit out the season to fully recover. Also if we trade Buddy or Bogi

 

[Double-K]

Everyone not okay with this offer sheet ---- who are the Kings to sign?

We can't even coax Hezonja to come here.

Contrast to public beliefs, just because it is a period to sign free agent, that doesn't mean you actually have to participate in every single NBA events.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

Everyone not okay with this offer sheet ---- who are the Kings to sign?

Is there some rule I'm not aware of that states that the Kings HAVE to sign a FA?

Sometimes doing nothing is a great move. There's no reason to make this move other than to make a move and say "we're trying to do something".

 

[Joshoua]

If a team has to think about matching a player this young than that should tell you something

 

[VF21]

IF he can, in fact, play the 3 it was a good move. The optimist in me thinks that's the only reason Vlade would make the offer. I also voted "good" because it would at least put an end to all the free agent angst and we could move on to the "our front office sucks" angst.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

Most of the radio guys don't understand this move either. And for good reason. It's ridiculous.

 

[Double-K]

It is bad. Doesn't matter that he's only 23 and that 19M isn't near max. The move doesn't make the Kings better and is very redundant.

You don't know that.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Is there some rule I'm not aware of that states that the Kings HAVE to sign a FA?

Sometimes doing nothing is a great move. There's no reason to make this move other than to make a move and say "we're trying to do something".

We are acquiring talent. He's young, explosive, and was playing well before his injury. Win shares? The kid can be a great player with a little luck and guidance.

 

[chief bromden]

Is there some rule I'm not aware of that states that the Kings HAVE to sign a FA?

Sometimes doing nothing is a great move. There's no reason to make this move other than to make a move and say "we're trying to do something".

No reason? I know it's hyperbole for point, but c'mon. The Kings have three guards, one of them who is still very raw and young. LaVine allows the Kings to play 3 guard lineups consistently, with multiple ball handlers on the floor at any given time.

 

[dude12]

it would take Frank off the court and we would have multiple scoring threats on the court at all times, even when we go to the bench which probably makes Hield even better.

 

[joemama]

I think Bulls end up matching...,on to the next one. If nothing else, we always seem to help players get paid.

While destroying cap space from one of the only remaining teams with space

 

[VF21]

As an aside, I am now resigned to the fact we Kings fans will never ever never have a TDOS without some kind of controversy. I guess it just is what it is.

 

[Double-K]

Most of the radio guys don't understand this move either. And for good reason. It's ridiculous.

And that's why they are radio guys and not the president of an NBA organization front office.

 

[Joshoua]

how many times does someone have to reiterate that this was a 24 game sample size where he just came back from rehabbing his surgery?

I don’t care if it’s 10 games how the hell you have more missed shots than assists, rebounds, steals, and blocks. That’s absurd and 25 games is enough.

https://twitter.com/statuses/1015387129935900672

Don’t tell the guys posting his career high highlights

 

[KingsFanSince85]

IF he can, in fact, play the 3 it was a good move. The optimist in me thinks that's the only reason Vlade would make the offer

Remember, this is the same GM that says Bagley can play 3 too. Apparently, he thinks anyone can play the 3. Probably because he isn't concerned with defense. At all.

I know Vlade is your guy ... but he's lost me. I held out and kept giving him time the past couple years, but the bad moves just keep piling up and compounding.

 

[Double-K]

I know Vlade is your guy ... but he's lost me. I held out and kept giving him time the past couple years, but the bad moves just keep piling up and compounding.

If you are so disappointed before even seeing a regular season game being played, VF21 just made a thread that'd ease your pain.

 

[Kingsfan23]

The FO is going to throw stuff against the wall because it knows it’s done after Bagley.

Normal FO logic about not taking injury risk albatross doesn’t apply since the next GM will deal with it if Zach remains a shell

 

[VF21]

WAAAAAHOOOOOOO
4years 80 mil !!!

I think the Bulls will match. This is the right move though.

As I've said before he would play some PG, SG and SF for the Kings and is a great peice for the new uptempo pace.

Plus he's a guy who can get his own shot quickly off the dribble, nice burst/first step and creativity plus he's only 23, basically same age as Utah's 1st rd pick Grayson Allen.

You have no idea how much I hope with every beat of my purple heart that this is true.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

It's not that bad. The contract, relatively speaking (I mean Capt. Factorial can correct me on this), isn't that horrible in today's NBA's CBA. And he's still only 23 years old... It's obvious that Vlade and the front office wants to run and run and run and run...

Well, I mean it's about 1/5 of the salary cap. It's not a terrible contract, but it's not a small contract either, and it's not clear to me that LaVine has earned it. In a lot of ways you're still betting on a young athlete who, if Chicago doesn't match, will be on his third team in five years. With our young core we can afford it, but is it the best use of our cap space? I'm on the fence on that, and this is coming from a UCLA fan who watched probably 90% of his college games. Obviously he has matured since then and I haven't followed him closely. The athleticism is obviously there. The numbers, as of right now, really aren't.