Luka Doncic (pre and post-draft discussion thread)
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How do you know he didn't work out for us? I mean not all team advertise their work out. shai gilgeous alexander when asked about which team he works out for basially decline to answer. There's alot of smokescreen out there. By my account, JJJ has not work out privately for Atlanta and Phoenix. Does that mean he doesn't like Memphis or Dallas?
I think it has to be Luca... The kings have done the right thing by taking flyers on big men the last couple drafts, and have drafted a big man the last 3-4 drafts. Luka just makes too much sense as a bigger wing that will be playing 3/4 which is exactly what the Kings need. Another 4/5 would just be asinine given their draft position, what the team has on the roster, and how the team has behaved in the draft the last 3 + years.
The numbers look decent to me but I just don't see any discernible offensive skills from him that set him apart from any other big man other than his shot being accurate. Defensively there are obviously almost no questions there other than fouling.
Either way, you wanted some JJJ talk so that's all I've got
Either way, you wanted some JJJ talk so that's all I've got
You don't want to waste possessions dumping it into the post because it yields poor offense. The big man needs to have a clear mismatch or be a passer; which few truly are.
Yeah and that's why I don't want him at #2. You plug him into a high functioning offense and he's going to be exactly what you need but he's not going to be the reason why the offense is high functioning. The Kings are still looking for that guy or have yet to have that guy develop.
From what we've read, we may have a JJJ type player in Giles already on the roster. Elite lateral quickness, rebounder, good lob target and solid shot blocker. Anything else would just be icing on the cake.
From what we've read, we may have a JJJ type player in Giles already on the roster. Elite lateral quickness, rebounder, good lob target and solid shot blocker. Anything else would just be icing on the cake.
You're mainly drafting him because he projects as an elite big man defender. It's a cherry on top that he can function in a elite offense. He will need a couple of strong playmakers on his team to bring out his offensive value. Out of all the teams in the lotto the best place for him would be Cleveland currently. A team with the best offensive player in the league that needs a big that can both shoot it and defend.
I'm hoping the Bagley talk is a smoke screen. It makes sense to me that if you have Doncic as the #1 player on your board, the only way you don't get him is if he goes #1. The best way to keep him from going #1 (i.e. another team giving PHX an offer too good to refuse) is to convince all of the teams that are after Doncic that he'll be available at #3.
What’s the teams biggest hole? To me, it’s the bigs. But then I think WCS is breakfast toast, and that Buddy/Bogdanovic can start together as starting caliber players. I’ve got JJ ahead of WCS. The question is Giles, but what position is he best at, the 4 or 5, and can you plan around him at this point? Someone like JJJ who has perimeter and can guard somewhat interchangeably might fit with him
I think the FO who sees Giles in practice every day for a year has a really good exactly what they are going to be getting from him.
Our hole is at SF. And it's so big you can drive a truck through it. I believe Bagley was brought in to evaluate as a SF, Porter, and then the guy they were most likely to pick all along is Doncic.
They most likely looked at Carter as a contigency because perhaps if Doncic goes #1 they trade down and look for 2 picks.
Our hole is at SF. And it's so big you can drive a truck through it. I believe Bagley was brought in to evaluate as a SF, Porter, and then the guy they were most likely to pick all along is Doncic.
They most likely looked at Carter as a contigency because perhaps if Doncic goes #1 they trade down and look for 2 picks.
They have a couple of guys already that could become good to elite offensive players at wing in Jackson and Booker. Booker is well on his way as a 21 year old posting a 2.9 OBPM. He needs to cut his turnovers and continue to improve his shot selection. So JJJ does make sense to go there. I'd still go Doncic if I were them and find other ways to add bigs. Jackson is a million miles away from being a good offensive player, but he has good tools and might develop like Butler did.... But whatever, that's their decision. I think Ayton is a big mistake because it's rare (possibly never happened) that a big shows out poorly on defense in college and then becomes a dominant defender in the NBA. He has the physical tools, but he might just be lacking the IQ.
I agree but I still think Ayton played better defense than he gets credit for at Arizona. Man to man he was fine. He was also playing the 4 90% of the time and I saw plenty of times that he covered for players that blew by their men that weren't his. And to be frank, the pack line defense has been solved. It's also fairly useless when 3/5 of the team can stay in front of their man. The only other capable defender in Arizona's featured lineup with Alkins. Also likely the only other player on that team to play in the NBA.
I was looking up end of shot clock stats for NBA teams, while this is the only stat I could find it's one of my biggest reasons I think teams need a player like Luka. Not to mention just regular half-court offense. If your team offense goes up a couple % points for halfcourt/late shot clock possessions it makes a HUGE difference.
Still, this is telling for a number of reasons. First, league-wide, average play in just halfcourt offense is 90.4 points per 100 possessions. In late-shot-clock situations, the average is 77.5 points per 100 possessions. Those 12.9 points represent a massive difference.
Still, this is telling for a number of reasons. First, league-wide, average play in just halfcourt offense is 90.4 points per 100 possessions. In late-shot-clock situations, the average is 77.5 points per 100 possessions. Those 12.9 points represent a massive difference.
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