Free Agency Open Thread (NBA and Kings!)
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I understand your point. And I agree to a point at least who we should have gone after at pg. I think someone like Randolph but at point. Either an older pg that can mentor but willing to accept going to the bench when fox is ready to take over. My goal was mentor pf, mentor pg, star sf. But my only disagreement is that this signing is end of the world. It's not milsap/Gallo signing. I think/hope they will help the rookies grow and if we win some games so be it. We have a lot of promising rookies/sophomores on the team and sooner or later we need vets to show them how to win.
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Yes.
Does anyone actually think we are going to botch the development of our #5 pick because we want to "win now"???
The NBA has changed and most players come into the league not really knowing the game because they are still so young. Look at baseball. It's normal for top draft picks (who come in young, like NBA) to spend at LEAST a year in the minors, and often 2-3.
Having a 19 year old lottery pick start behind very seasoned and professional WINNER of a point guard is fantastic.
Hill wasn't even on my radar but once again Vlade shows why he's the Vladfather.
Does anyone actually think we are going to botch the development of our #5 pick because we want to "win now"???
The NBA has changed and most players come into the league not really knowing the game because they are still so young. Look at baseball. It's normal for top draft picks (who come in young, like NBA) to spend at LEAST a year in the minors, and often 2-3.
Having a 19 year old lottery pick start behind very seasoned and professional WINNER of a point guard is fantastic.
Hill wasn't even on my radar but once again Vlade shows why he's the Vladfather.
Again, it's not about who starts. It's about who gets the minutes that matter the most. I truly think a few around here (and not you specifically) have become so enamored of the whole process of getting new players that you've honestly lost your minds. VERY FEW NBA rookies,even lottery picks, are NBA ready when they first come into the league. Our rookies especially, most of whom are one-year and out as far as college is concerned, are NOT ready to go up against the starting rosters they'll be facing (especially in the West). The idea that tossing them out there to sink or swim will bring out their best is just delusional.
Absolutely love the signings!
And I think anyone who is convincing themselves that ZBo and Hill are going to be the pieces that have the Kings playing mediocre 35-win ball and losing our high pick to the late lottery is fooling themselves. This team is still going to be very young. This team should be fun. But we still don't have a 7 foot 270 pound all-world talent angry human to personally carry us to those 35-win highs. We're going to be lousy in the W column.
These guys are good enough to ensure we don't lose nearly 70 games crushing the youngsters' confidence, good enough to mentor our future, good enough to teach our kids how to play and be pro at the NBA level. The wins won't come in bunches this year, especially in the slaughterhouse that is the West. But they're on their way.
And I think anyone who is convincing themselves that ZBo and Hill are going to be the pieces that have the Kings playing mediocre 35-win ball and losing our high pick to the late lottery is fooling themselves. This team is still going to be very young. This team should be fun. But we still don't have a 7 foot 270 pound all-world talent angry human to personally carry us to those 35-win highs. We're going to be lousy in the W column.
These guys are good enough to ensure we don't lose nearly 70 games crushing the youngsters' confidence, good enough to mentor our future, good enough to teach our kids how to play and be pro at the NBA level. The wins won't come in bunches this year, especially in the slaughterhouse that is the West. But they're on their way.
I just don't understand what people want from this organization anymore. Some have been crying for the team to be blown up and restarted and so it has. 2/3 of our roster are rookies or 2nd year players, with WCS being the longest tenured King at 3 years .... and yet people still want to be in the lottery and lose games on purpose? What, has the last 11 years not been enough for you?
Folks, we are going to suck this year whether we try to or not. We are super super young and you know what? That's what young teams do, they lose, a lot. However, for the first time in many years, I am ok with that because there is a plan that is being followed and players are being developed properly without their confidence being shattered. We are supposed to lose and we certainly will. It's losing with a purpose though, it's losing to learn so you can win later.
Teach these guys to fight and play hard and not worry about how many games you win and who in the East sucks more than us. Who cares? Let the cards fall and see what happens. I want these kids to be taught right, THAT has been our biggest drawback in the last 10 years (along with drafting poorly to begin with). We have sucked at player development, but for the first time, I have full confidence that we have corrected that issue and I look forward to the kids learning on the fly. It's going to be fun and I already know I will enjoy next season more so than I have the last 10.
Just enjoy the game and the progress we have made the last couple of years. It's what we all have been waiting for.
Folks, we are going to suck this year whether we try to or not. We are super super young and you know what? That's what young teams do, they lose, a lot. However, for the first time in many years, I am ok with that because there is a plan that is being followed and players are being developed properly without their confidence being shattered. We are supposed to lose and we certainly will. It's losing with a purpose though, it's losing to learn so you can win later.
Teach these guys to fight and play hard and not worry about how many games you win and who in the East sucks more than us. Who cares? Let the cards fall and see what happens. I want these kids to be taught right, THAT has been our biggest drawback in the last 10 years (along with drafting poorly to begin with). We have sucked at player development, but for the first time, I have full confidence that we have corrected that issue and I look forward to the kids learning on the fly. It's going to be fun and I already know I will enjoy next season more so than I have the last 10.
Just enjoy the game and the progress we have made the last couple of years. It's what we all have been waiting for.
OMFG. Yeah, that whole "player development" experience with Ben McLemore is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. He couldn't have been handled more poorly if they were intentionally trying to sabotage his career.
You give players time when they earn it. And when do they earn it? In practice, when they go all out against the vets and show how hungry they are. You put them into game situations with a "walk before you run" attitude. You reward their successes with more minutes. You have mentors who help them hone their skills.
You give players time when they earn it. And when do they earn it? In practice, when they go all out against the vets and show how hungry they are. You put them into game situations with a "walk before you run" attitude. You reward their successes with more minutes. You have mentors who help them hone their skills.
Listening to fox after the first practice he said he is still trying to learn "the language." I think fox has some preparation mentally and more important physically to be a starting point guard inthe west. What i mean is he is going to need to add some strength. Blazing speed lways helps but physically i dont think he should START yet. Of course no body wants to see his (or other rookies) hampered
Royce Young @royceyoung
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On the Rudy Gay front, hearing the Thunder are his preference, but there's a sizable gap on what OKC can offer and what Gay's looking for
2 minutes ago
On the Rudy Gay front, hearing the Thunder are his preference, but there's a sizable gap on what OKC can offer and what Gay's looking for
Royce Young @royceyoung
1 minute ago
If the Heat miss out on Hayward, likely they'll extend bigger offer to Gay. Celtics could as well.
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If the Heat miss out on Hayward, likely they'll extend bigger offer to Gay. Celtics could as well.
I, for one, am beyond pumped to see what happens. How will Fox lead this team? Which Harry Giles are we getting? How will the vets and kids respond/play off of each other? Who will be getting the minutes in the 2nd half of the season?
This is all exciting stuff to watch out for. I am very pleased with this offseason!
This is all exciting stuff to watch out for. I am very pleased with this offseason!
Practice is nice but not the whole picture. You can't evaluate players on practice alone and shouldn't. Young players need bona-fide playing time, and much of it. You can't fully get that in practice. Now if a young player continually makes the same mistakes over-and-over in practice, or a game despite coaching, then yes pull him or restrict him. No substitution for in-game playing time.
Garrett Temple @GTemp14·2h
Welcome to the squad my bro @George_Hill3 and my big vet Z-Bo!!! #SacramentoProud #makingmoves
I dunno about you but I'm really starting to like this temple guy
Welcome to the squad my bro @George_Hill3 and my big vet Z-Bo!!! #SacramentoProud #makingmoves
I dunno about you but I'm really starting to like this temple guy