Free Agency Open Thread (NBA and Kings!)

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ESP47

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#187
#187
Entity said:
We have 9 1st rounders from the last 3 drafts. I'm not to worried about one more next year. Let's just play. Get who we can get in far and start this thing. If you are already worrying about another 1st rounder next year. You just need to watch college ball and give up pros
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Next year there will likely be a Fox type level talent for us to pick if they play their cards right. You don't throw that away for aging vets that have zero effect on winning enough to make the playoffs. I'd rather them build toward a big playoff push that lasts a decade instead of concentrating on a 30 win season that is absolutely meaningless.
 
Kingz19

Kingz19

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#188
#188
Blob said:
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Nets, Kings among likeliest teams to aggressively court Porter. Wizards have indicated they’ll match any offer sheet up to/including max.
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Then why don't they just offer him the max? They really think the offer sheet he eventually signs won't be the max? How come they never offered an extension?

People are calling their bluff since even without Porter their payroll figures to be too high...and they have made no effort to extend him.
 
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Gguod

Bench
#191
#191
Entity said:
We have 9 1st rounders from the last 3 drafts. I'm not to worried about one more next year. Let's just play. Get who we can get in far and start this thing. If you are already worrying about another 1st rounder next year. You just need to watch college ball and give up pros
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We havent been bad enough to draft any franchise players with those picks (Cant say anything yet about Fox). Vlade have done nice job to turn some low lottery picks to multiple picks that might be the core role players when we start to win but we still lack that top talent. We arent getting it from free agency so we need to draft it. If we just "start this thing" then this franchise wont get out of this miserable constant below average low ceiling s*it we have been so many years. Plus it seems pretty absurd that we trade away our best player for a young guy and a low lottery pick and suddenly we have so good team that we just need to overpay Pj Tucker and Patrick Patterson and we have ourselves a winner
 
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The Hammer

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#192
#192
ESP47 said:
David Aldridge‏Verified account@daldridgetnt


Nets, Kings among likeliest teams to aggressively court Porter. Wizards have indicated they’ll match any offer sheet up to/including max.
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This is the only guy in the league I'm comfortable with the Kings offering a max contract to.

Would be a GREAT signing. There's your starting three and JJ can work on being a top quality career back up.

This is the type of talent you don't pass up on just for the sake of a draft pick. The talent you want is staring you in the face.

We get Porter and someone like Z-bo, bring Lawson back, and we are pushing .500 next year, with nowhere to go but up.
 
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joemama

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#193
#193
Mcw to charolette

Jeff goodman (espn)

Who is still looking for a pg the knicks?
Have the bulls found one or thet trying to get rondo back 4 cheap?
 
Entity

Entity

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#201
#201
The Hammer said:
This is the only guy in the league I'm comfortable with the Kings offering a max contract to.

Would be a GREAT signing. There's your starting three and JJ can work on being a top quality career back up.

This is the type of talent you don't pass up on just for the sake of a draft pick. The talent you want is staring you in the face.

We get Porter and someone like Z-bo, bring Lawson back, and we are pushing .500 next year, with nowhere to go but up.
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But wait he is to good though? We don't want good players now because apparently some dude that just graduated high school is gonna be our franchise player next year. The 9 first rounders we have now are nothing compared to that 1 (player yet to be named) that still has his mom fixing his cereal for him in the mornings
 
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The Hammer

All-Star
#202
#202
Entity said:
But wait he is to good though? We don't want good players now because apparently some dude that just graduated high school is gonna be our franchise player next year. The 9 first rounders we have now are nothing compared to that 1 (player yet to be named) that still has his mom fixing his cereal for him in the mornings
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You're so right on.

Plus, he's too good to be on the Kings. For Otto's own sake, I think he should sign elsewhere, because I'm such a good person.
 
Entity

Entity

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#203
#203
Gguod said:
We havent been bad enough to draft any franchise players with those picks (Cant say anything yet about Fox). Vlade have done nice job to turn some low lottery picks to multiple picks that might be the core role players when we start to win but we still lack that top talent. We arent getting it from free agency so we need to draft it. If we just "start this thing" then this franchise wont get out of this miserable constant below average low ceiling s*it we have been so many years. Plus it seems pretty absurd that we trade away our best player for a young guy and a low lottery pick and suddenly we have so good team that we just need to overpay Pj Tucker and Patrick Patterson and we have ourselves a winner
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So what do you want? Just fill out with some camp invites?
 
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Gguod

Bench
#204
#204
Entity said:
So what do you want? Just fill out with some camp invites?
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Use our cap to take in bad contracts attached to assets, let the young guys play and develope and figure out what we have. If we have roster spots, try to do like sixers and get guys like Convington for a long and cheap partially guaranteed deals. for a long partially guaranteed contracts. Then we probably have good odds in lottery. After this year we are in a position to plan to make win now moves IF we get a good pick in draft and players like Fox have shown we can build around them. Plus we would be able to improve in the future since we would have got assets for taking bad contracts.
 
Iced Espresso

Iced Espresso

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#206
#206
Gguod said:
Use our cap to take in bad contracts attached to assets, let the young guys play and develope and figure out what we have. If we have roster spots, try to get guys like Convington for a long partially guaranteed contracts. Then we probably have good odds in lottery. After this year we are in a position to plan to make win now moves IF we get a good pick in draft and players like Fox have shown we can build around them. Plus we would be able to improve in the future since we would have got assets for taking bad contracts.
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Supposedly the Suns are looking to take bad contracts now.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246671/Suns-Decide-To-Pivot-Towards-Full-Rebuild

So some competition.

They've got close to 30 million in room
 
Entity

Entity

Hall of Famer
#208
#208
Gguod said:
Use our cap to take in bad contracts attached to assets, let the young guys play and develope and figure out what we have. If we have roster spots, try to do like sixers and get guys like Convington for a long and cheap partially guaranteed deals. for a long partially guaranteed contracts. Then we probably have good odds in lottery. After this year we are in a position to plan to make win now moves IF we get a good pick in draft and players like Fox have shown we can build around them. Plus we would be able to improve in the future since we would have got assets for taking bad contracts.
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So there is no flaw in that at all? I mean I'm with you. I want to see the kids play this year. And this year needs to be about them. But our end results don't match up. You are concerned over 1 pick next year. I'm more concerned about developing the ones we have. And using the 76ers as an example is not a good choice. They are in year 5 of just collecting picks. If it was a garuntee that we get "the guy" I would be all in. But it's 50/50 even if you get #1 pick. That's why I don't put much faith in it. To talk tanking before August is just a cowards way out to me. Guess I'm different.
 
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dude12

Hall of Famer
#210
#210
Gguod said:
Use our cap to take in bad contracts attached to assets, let the young guys play and develope and figure out what we have. If we have roster spots, try to do like sixers and get guys like Convington for a long and cheap partially guaranteed deals. for a long partially guaranteed contracts. Then we probably have good odds in lottery. After this year we are in a position to plan to make win now moves IF we get a good pick in draft and players like Fox have shown we can build around them. Plus we would be able to improve in the future since we would have got assets for taking bad contracts.
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If you don't add some quality vets, and I'm talking at least 1 guy that can score, then your not giving our rookies the best opportunity to succeed. Throwing 10 pups out there and saying go get em is probably the worst thing this franchise can do. I mean, at least last 25 games last year, you had DC or Lawson or Tyreke who could shoulder the load. This would be a full season of risking our young assets and their confidence by giving them a premature full time role.

And this process is way different from Philly....don't believe they ever had as many young guys, and I mean high picks or significant youngsters as this...2/3 of the team is going to be incredibly young. Give Fox some help.
 
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