Only DeMarcus Cousins trade rumor thread
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So, listening to Kayte and Dave in their emergency radio broadcast tonight, you could hear an interesting thing.
Really it was this tone in their voice of utter disbelief. Not even shock I'd say, just a complete non understanding of why this happened. It was strange. On the one hand, they are trying to produce a radio broadcast. But you could tell, as basketball people, and even as insiders of the Kings, they just had no idea how to think of this. You got the impression that if they weren't such passionate fans, they would be laughing their asses off at what just happened. Indeed, you could hear Sam Amick, when he called in, direct from New Orleans, suppress a bit of incredulous laughter. It was bizarre.
Really it was this tone in their voice of utter disbelief. Not even shock I'd say, just a complete non understanding of why this happened. It was strange. On the one hand, they are trying to produce a radio broadcast. But you could tell, as basketball people, and even as insiders of the Kings, they just had no idea how to think of this. You got the impression that if they weren't such passionate fans, they would be laughing their asses off at what just happened. Indeed, you could hear Sam Amick, when he called in, direct from New Orleans, suppress a bit of incredulous laughter. It was bizarre.
Yeah you could tell it was a bit of a struggle to separate their inner fan with being a professional. They did a great job of just being there for all of us in attempting to help us just process what just happened and vent at the same time. They really did help the community tonight and should be applauded for what they did. They are just like us, fans, and knew we needed them. Great people. Thank you Dave and Kayte!
I think Dave knows, in a way few do, just exactly how Grant ran Cousins out of town. He gets the effect a person in Grant's position can have. Grant blew all Cousins faults way out of proportion. He could have tried to act as a salve on those flare ups, but didn't. Grant seems to revel in exerting power. Dave can't challenge this because Grant is his professional mentor.
Grant's almost gleeful gloating on the air I think got to Dave.
It was almost as if Grant was rubbing Dave's nose in it right on the air in a not so subtle way. It was kind of a gross Machiavellian show of power.
Grant's almost gleeful gloating on the air I think got to Dave.
It was almost as if Grant was rubbing Dave's nose in it right on the air in a not so subtle way. It was kind of a gross Machiavellian show of power.
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Vivek just can't be trusted, as much as some wanted to believe that Vivek would hand over control to a rookie in Vlade the truth is he will never put his billion+ investment into the hands of anyone else. His actions up to this point including this one indicate that he had no plan everything is short sighted.
If you dont get the haul you want for a superstar you simply wait it out and dont promise him anything.
Vivek and Vlade got played, this offer could have been had at next years deadline too. Why stop taking calls at the 11th hour?? thats when the real offers come in. We got fleeced plain and simple and you can make that determination today.
Anytime we may be heading towards a turn in the right direction Vivek steps right in to squash it.
If you dont get the haul you want for a superstar you simply wait it out and dont promise him anything.
Vivek and Vlade got played, this offer could have been had at next years deadline too. Why stop taking calls at the 11th hour?? thats when the real offers come in. We got fleeced plain and simple and you can make that determination today.
Anytime we may be heading towards a turn in the right direction Vivek steps right in to squash it.
The Lakers 2015 offer of the 2 pick and Randal is looking pretty good right now.
The Zinger, Randal and not making the 76ers trade to win now (thus, having full control over their picks going forward) was a path forward).
That was dismissed out of hand by many here as not even remotely enough for Cousins. In hindsight, that seems incorrect.
The Kings have horrible assets, a bad GM, and a truly horrible owner. Until they fix the latter, it's just moving deck chairs on the titanic. Unlike the past, you can do something about it by voting with your wallet. It's a small market and the Kings must spend 90% of the cap. If the last remaining die hard fans don't get swept up by the 1140 propaganda and nostalgia, the balance sheet turns from super black to red in a couple of years. At which point the minority owners will make things untenable for Vivek (with leaks and an audit) and we find out whether he is comfortable being Ted Stipend level revered in NBA history or capitulates.
Or start drinking koolaid thst this talent and asset starved franchise is going to draft its way to contention by nailing the 2017 draft, winning about 18 games next year and drafting a super star in 2018, and thus it won't matter that they gave away their 2019 pick because they didn't want to carry the cap hit of stretching Landry and JT over 5 years (5% of a 100 million cap) if they even understood that option.
The Zinger, Randal and not making the 76ers trade to win now (thus, having full control over their picks going forward) was a path forward).
That was dismissed out of hand by many here as not even remotely enough for Cousins. In hindsight, that seems incorrect.
The Kings have horrible assets, a bad GM, and a truly horrible owner. Until they fix the latter, it's just moving deck chairs on the titanic. Unlike the past, you can do something about it by voting with your wallet. It's a small market and the Kings must spend 90% of the cap. If the last remaining die hard fans don't get swept up by the 1140 propaganda and nostalgia, the balance sheet turns from super black to red in a couple of years. At which point the minority owners will make things untenable for Vivek (with leaks and an audit) and we find out whether he is comfortable being Ted Stipend level revered in NBA history or capitulates.
Or start drinking koolaid thst this talent and asset starved franchise is going to draft its way to contention by nailing the 2017 draft, winning about 18 games next year and drafting a super star in 2018, and thus it won't matter that they gave away their 2019 pick because they didn't want to carry the cap hit of stretching Landry and JT over 5 years (5% of a 100 million cap) if they even understood that option.
Should have made a deal with the Celtics and got a young guy like Brown and at least the Nets 2018 pick. A lot of people had different opinions on what a return for Cuz would look like but if anyone would have guess this they would have been laughed at. I refuse to believe this is the best return Kings could have got for Cuz. Shame on ownership and shame on Vlade.
Coach Joeger welcome to basketball hell
Coach Joeger welcome to basketball hell
Well hold on a minute ... this argument you've put forward is the exact reason why many "Cousins haters" said we couldn't win with Cousins, because the franchise hadn't done diddly-squat to build around him for 6 years. You know what the response was? Different FO, in Vlade we trust. Joerger, culture change. Vivek doesn't meddle anymore.
Not sure if they would be able to somehow get Wall over next season. But as far as coaching goes, they aren't going to struggle to find a good coach. All the coaches recognize Cousins' talent. The difference is they also have AD who's overall perceived as much friendlier to coach, and Cousins isn't necessarily going to be the main man. It's a very different scenario when your job is not entirely dependent on keeping Cousins happy.
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